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In reply to the discussion: Wanted: Proof that what happened in Ukraine actually constituted a "western sponsored coup." [View all]Adrahil
(13,340 posts)21. OK, then let's see you turn some of your "truth-seeking" on Putin's Russia.
THEN, I'll believe you're after the truth.
Also I don't give a shit that you were a Marine. Half the assholes in the Tea Party movement are ex-military.
But I was a DoD (Civil Service) R&D engineer for 20 years. Good enough for you?
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Wanted: Proof that what happened in Ukraine actually constituted a "western sponsored coup." [View all]
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
OP
He feared for his life so much he took all day packing up his oil paintings and antique furniture?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#22
Your first half of your post actually seemed to make a little sense....
go west young man
May 2014
#130
I have no clue what your military time has to do with your right to speak your mind.
NCTraveler
May 2014
#104
I don't bellieve your claims. You are making a big mistake in your writing that someone with your
okaawhatever
May 2014
#57
Maybe you could form a committee to get to the bottom of these unAmerican activities.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2014
#59
I'm not going to hold my breath for this Tommy. Unless you take RT or RU a a source I don't
okaawhatever
May 2014
#8
No, it's a guy running from failure. (something Putin did not approve of) As Matthew Henry said:
okaawhatever
May 2014
#67
Then if there's no proof, as you say, perhaps you might want to refrain from jumping to conclusions.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#19
So you have no evidence that shows Yanukovych was forcibly removed by a small group?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#33
It's inane to speculate on CIA documents that you don't know to even exist.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#44
I'm not denying that what happened wasn't "regime change" or even a "revolution"...
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#30
But first let's talk about how that 'majority' came to be the majority, via ethnic cleansing...
Bluenorthwest
May 2014
#38
Of course you're not demanding proof. You clearly haven't provided any proof of your own assertions.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#73
Except that doesn't account for the lack of force or urgency surrounding his departure.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#43
"There was still a Parliament that could have ran the institutions and even negotiate on behalf..."
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#50
When Marcos fled the Philippines in 1986 he was not impeached after he left. He was replaced.
pampango
May 2014
#53
"This isn't a case where the vast majority of the nation wanted the guy gone."
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#75
Russian interference in Ukraine is quite tangible. US interference not as much.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#79
On 2/20 parliament voted 236-2 to condemn the violence, ban the use of weapons against protesters,
pampango
May 2014
#42
The video showed a very calm and orderly packing process for Yanukovych on February 21st.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#45
It was not the way the government was supposed to be changed. There were rules.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2014
#58
Except leaders typically don't pack up their oil paintings and leave the country, either.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#62
Part of the problem was the Constitution was basically designed to not allow impeachment to
okaawhatever
May 2014
#69
Laws, really. And Putin is to blame for those Ukrainian Protestors/Insurgents/Freedom Fighters
KoKo
May 2014
#85
And we all knew that Gerald Ford was illegitimate because he was unelected. nt
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#110
Related Washington Post article: What did Yanukovych take with him as he fled his mansion?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#74
You Insult what you call a "fair handful of people" then want them to prove something
KoKo
May 2014
#84
But the "western sponsored coup" narrative is by its very nature a conspiracy theory.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#113
Well...you could do some background reading by reporters familiar with the situation
KoKo
May 2014
#117
114 Replies (before mine) and nothing in the same universe as proof offered.
stevenleser
May 2014
#115
***Something just floored me about the timeline of events that I didn't realize before.***
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#137