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"Association does not prove causality" is the operative phrase Warpy May 2014 #1
+1 HuckleB May 2014 #5
Even if it does the good outweighs the bad. ForgoTheConsequence May 2014 #2
No argument here. Especially in China, India, Africa and places were chronic Hep B McCamy Taylor May 2014 #49
Shouldn't it be the job of the people making the argument blueridge3210 May 2014 #3
Actually, it is not hard to show that there is no association. If two things are McCamy Taylor May 2014 #7
I must be missing something blueridge3210 May 2014 #10
Yes, there is a study that shows an association. It is the one linked above. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #25
You're not missing anything. This is just another study misrepresented by anti-vaxers. HuckleB May 2014 #28
No, it should be the job of those who would require all neonates to be given a vaccine pnwmom May 2014 #11
And it appears that this has been done blueridge3210 May 2014 #14
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB May 2014 #17
It's incumbent on those selling a vaccine to prove it's safe. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #33
Hep B study is just a restatement that autism diagnoses were increasing mathematic May 2014 #4
But they didn't find that correlation with MMR vaccine, which also changed significantly. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #34
The hep B study didn't study the MMR vaccine mathematic May 2014 #39
Why would anyone recommend this anti-vaccine ludicrousness? HuckleB May 2014 #6
Autism causation and the Hepatitis B vaccine: no link HuckleB May 2014 #8
Why does DU tolerate this type of conspiracy theory BS? HuckleB May 2014 #9
Did you bother to alert on it as an SOP violation? Warren Stupidity May 2014 #12
Why would I? HuckleB May 2014 #13
So that would answer the question why DU allows it in this case. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #15
Umm. No. Not really. HuckleB May 2014 #16
actually it would get a pretty good chance of a lock as stupid ass CS bullshit. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #18
That's not my experience, and I'm tired of being told my alerts are crap. HuckleB May 2014 #19
fine I'll alert on it and see what happens. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #20
I'll be curious to find out. HuckleB May 2014 #23
Nothing. It was nearly unanimous that more antivac idiocy wouldl be good for DU. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #64
meaning it is still up in the air RobertEarl May 2014 #24
We know it's not vaccines. HuckleB May 2014 #26
Antivac idiocy is killing people. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #27
It could be RobertEarl May 2014 #31
Radiation causes autism! NuclearDem May 2014 #38
I need a better class of fan club RobertEarl May 2014 #41
Three things. blueridge3210 May 2014 #50
That is true. That is why I am not Antivac. I am for informed Vaccination. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #36
That's a fiction-based copout. HuckleB May 2014 #42
My patients have to sign consent forms before they get vaccines. Big, long government consent forms. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #52
Your "patients?" HuckleB May 2014 #53
MD, MPH. Most folks here know that. Go on Amazon. Read one of my books. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #71
More claims? HuckleB May 2014 #72
"So what is the cause of autism?" NuclearDem May 2014 #29
It's known that there's an environmental variable. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #35
No argument from me here. NuclearDem May 2014 #37
It's not definitive that it's not mostly genetic and diagnosis changes. HuckleB May 2014 #43
If it's not entirely due to Dx changes then there's an environmental factor. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #57
It's not that simple. HuckleB May 2014 #60
If the rate is going up, and it's not entirely measurement error, then it's environmental. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #62
Thanks for the anti-vaccine cliche. HuckleB May 2014 #65
Thanks. I tend to agree. However it can be very hard to get anyone interested in McCamy Taylor May 2014 #48
Actually, that's about the easiest thing in the world to do. HuckleB May 2014 #54
Agreed. With so many highly informed "experts" it should be no problem for them to GoneFishin May 2014 #76
I alerted. HuckleB May 2014 #45
You need to do an SOP alert. The OP is not rude or insulting, just whacko. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #46
I am going to plead ignorance. HuckleB May 2014 #47
The top choice sends it to host. Go Vols May 2014 #51
Thanks. HuckleB May 2014 #55
No it wouldn't... SidDithers May 2014 #58
yup you are right about this one Sid. Despite the horrifying effects of MMR antivac Warren Stupidity May 2014 #63
A study showing a statistical association is not cause for panic. It just means we need a McCamy Taylor May 2014 #21
This "study" is used by anti-vaxers to push bad propaganda. HuckleB May 2014 #22
I have a "rep"? This is the only study that has ever shown an association. Therefore it is the only McCamy Taylor May 2014 #30
Hmm. Doesn't that ring a bell? HuckleB May 2014 #40
Uncontrolled experiments piss me off. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #32
Of course, studies about the safety of the full vaccination schedule show no issues. HuckleB May 2014 #44
Let's chanege the subject. Roundup, Genetically Modified Foods... McCamy Taylor May 2014 #56
Anti-science conspiracies are a dime a dozen. HuckleB May 2014 #61
Let's be accurate - Hep B is not associated with Autism Godhumor May 2014 #59
And people here buy into it despite the disaster with the MMR antivac idiocy. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #66
Thanks for looking into what I was too lazy to do. Barack_America May 2014 #67
Yes there is an association. Here is a WHO summary of all the lit McCamy Taylor May 2014 #68
Nope. no credible link at all Godhumor May 2014 #69
One more thing to clarify,small premature babies should NOT get Hep B vaccine until one month of age McCamy Taylor May 2014 #70
I refused the hep B for my preemie twin boys (33 weekers). Crunchy Frog May 2014 #74
So, you can't answer the actual science of the matter, yet again. HuckleB May 2014 #75
The control group includes children born in 1980, 11 years before the vaccine was introduced Major Nikon May 2014 #73
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