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Recursion

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Sun May 25, 2014, 08:27 AM May 2014

Women in science they mysteriously don't teach you about [View all]



So, that's Hedy Lamarr. She was voted the "most beautiful woman in Europe", and frankly that seems justified. The problem is, if you google her, that's what comes up first. What's missing?

The fact that she invented the frequency-hopping protocol that was the most significant advancement in signals since Marconi (or possibly even Heaviside) is apparently secondary to the fact that looking at her was pleasant for men (and, again, I have to admit it is, but that should never be given priority to the importance of her scientific breakthrough).

This protocol:

1. Was among other things what the Allies used to win WWII, and
2. Is still used in cell phones today

There has been lip-service to women in science for years, and most of it has focused on Marie Curie. Yes: she was an exceptional scientist, and yes: she deserves all her accolades; nothing in this post is an attempt to deprive her of those. I'm simply annoyed that people act like she is unusual for being a female scientist.

So, just as a reminder, here are people who happen to be women who have earned their places as exceptional scientists and engineers (my own field is electrical and computer engineering, so it leans heavily towards that; please add women from the physical, earth, and life sciences you know of).

1. Ada Lovelace. I'm a sysadmin, so I have to go with her first. Lovelace (the daughter of the poet Byron) was the first digital computer programmer in human history. Furthermore, she stated what should probably be considered the Fundamental Theorem of Computer Science. When asked by Parliament why she used results alternately as arithmetical or logical, she said "there is no fundamental difference; the answers may be interpreted as arithmetic or logic as the need of the operation requires". That truly encapsulates Computer Science as a discipline. (Even Boole did not yet grasp that.)

2. Grace Murray Hopper. Continuing on the comp sci track, Admiral Hopper was frankly one of the greatest computer programmers ever. Most of her source code is now publicly available thanks to FOIA, but it's still largely understudied, ironically because of the revolution she inspired. She invented things like "the compiler" and "the linker" and "the parser"; if you don't know computers and programming that may not mean much to you, but trust me that those are crucially important to every piece of software written today. She is one of a vanishingly small number of historical women to have a US Navy ship named after her.

3. Mary Cartwright. She was the primary developer of chaos theory, the notion that underlies such diverse subjects now as economics, climatology, evolutionary biology, sociology, art history, and political science.

4. Jane Goodall. I hope I don't have to repeat her biography here. Although some of her results have been challenged by more recent research (that's how science works) she remains one of the most impressive primatologists in history.

5. Hertha Ayrton. She was the first woman to read a paper before the Institute of Electrical Engineers, and wow, was it a paper. Her work on electrical arcing directly influenced Einstein in his study of electrical phenomena that lead to the theory of relativity.

There have been more genius female scientists, mathematicians, and engineers than a single thread, let alone an OP, could hold, but I just wanted to get these seven (counting Curie and Lamarr) out there for a moment. Marie Curie was amazing, but she was hardly unique, and I think it only honors her memory to remind us of that.
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No computer scientist worth his salt is unaware of Hedy Lamarr Xipe Totec May 2014 #1
I've known undergrads who hadn't heard of her Recursion May 2014 #2
I didn't say all computer scientists; only those that are worth their salt. Xipe Totec May 2014 #3
Well, hell, that's a vanishing population. I've known "computer scientists" who don't know Knuth Recursion May 2014 #4
+1. nt bemildred May 2014 #6
Ah, yes, Knuth Rockne. malthaussen May 2014 #17
Yeah, Knuth is rather dry, but he is thorough. bemildred May 2014 #19
Bwah Recursion May 2014 #22
Grace Hopper also coined the word "software". Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #53
and brought the word bug into the whistler162 May 2014 #62
"And win it in nlogn time." n/t winter is coming May 2014 #57
That's "Hedley"... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #56
ROFL! I knew somebody'd throw that in! calimary May 2014 #70
Or Admiral Hopper. whistler162 May 2014 #60
The ENTIRE time I was in school, Le Taz Hot May 2014 #5
+1. It is pathetic how parochial our education system is these days. bemildred May 2014 #8
And the people who make the tests determine what is taught! kmlisle May 2014 #12
Yeah, that's the part they like. nt bemildred May 2014 #20
Not sure of other schools whistler162 May 2014 #63
This thread is more about the ones they don't teach about. bemildred May 2014 #69
Yeah, that was the horsehit they tried to teach me, too Warpy May 2014 #13
aha she was an engineer. mopinko May 2014 #26
A few quibbles: Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #7
You are correct about Emmy Noether: bemildred May 2014 #10
Noether and many other women are conspicuous for their absence Recursion May 2014 #21
Lise Meitner lululu May 2014 #77
Emmy Noether-influential mathematician and Physicists qx1789 Mar 2015 #81
Cosmos has been doing a nice job of highlighting some of the overlooked women in science. NutmegYankee May 2014 #9
I'll add some... jimlup May 2014 #11
I totally should have included Noether Recursion May 2014 #23
Radia Perlman is one of my heros Paulie May 2014 #66
I have a science curriculum I developed on History of Science that includes women kmlisle May 2014 #14
I was going to mention Barbara McClintock. yardwork May 2014 #31
Hypatia and the Alexandria Library - martyrs to fear, ignorance and bigotry sarge43 May 2014 #15
ix-nay on that one MisterP May 2014 #50
Thanks very much for this thread theHandpuppet May 2014 #16
Don't be dismayed. Today, the males aren't taught about, either. Too many "facts" to be "memorized." WinkyDink May 2014 #18
My mom was a programmer with Honeywell bhikkhu May 2014 #24
I still have nightmares about punch cards<shudder>. whistler162 May 2014 #61
because of a shaky cardreader a six inch high stack of them slid to the floor Skittles May 2014 #74
Many women (historical and legendry) have had ships named for them sarge43 May 2014 #25
sorry, thanks, I should have been more specific: female Navy personnel Recursion May 2014 #30
They were and pioneers sarge43 May 2014 #36
True, though that came and went: Whitman was a nurse. (not) Recursion May 2014 #37
My Mom was a Navy Nurse - she was recruited out of nursing school in 1942 csziggy May 2014 #41
Another pioneer. sarge43 May 2014 #42
Thank you csziggy May 2014 #45
posters in this thread should consider becoming wiki editors. mopinko May 2014 #27
When I was a kid mom went to the library with me and told me I would learn to read about toby jo May 2014 #28
wow! heaven05 May 2014 #29
Beauty fades smallcat88 May 2014 #32
And thanks to Seth MacFarlane for producing the series. nt valerief May 2014 #33
Congrats on finding an excuse to mention his name in this thread. redqueen May 2014 #43
I thought that Oscar's skit was really funny. He was mocking Hollywood's valerief May 2014 #44
Beat me to it, but Brainstormy May 2014 #34
Wow, never knew that about Hedy Lamarr. Thank you for this thread.. mountain grammy May 2014 #35
I love these types of posts... maced666 May 2014 #38
Welcome to DU, maced666! calimary May 2014 #72
Rosalind Franklin (DNA) Gemini Cat May 2014 #39
Another great example Recursion May 2014 #40
Yes, this. Times a million. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #49
Beat me to it quakerboy May 2014 #73
'they' don't teach you about them? ProdigalJunkMail May 2014 #46
Totally strange, bro Recursion May 2014 #47
obviously not you... ProdigalJunkMail May 2014 #48
K&R Blue Owl May 2014 #51
I would have thought that these days, she is more well known for her scientific contributions cemaphonic May 2014 #52
K&R Jamastiene May 2014 #54
Not really a mystery why they don't teach you about them, hughee99 May 2014 #55
K&R!!!!!!!!!!! burrowowl May 2014 #58
The bends (also known as decompression sickness)... Blanks May 2014 #59
Rachel Carson arikara May 2014 #64
My hero....Rachel Carson. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #65
I did not know about Hedy Lamarr. murielm99 May 2014 #67
A few others... Crash2Parties May 2014 #68
Welcome to DU, Crash2Parties! calimary May 2014 #71
Wow. I did not know that. SunSeeker May 2014 #75
Some from old Europe: OldEurope May 2014 #76
Lamarr's invention wasn't used in WW II. Frank Cannon May 2014 #78
This is great! Chemisse May 2014 #79
UNREC brooklynite May 2014 #80
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