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Bjorn Against

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45. The problem goes far beyond this message board

Mon May 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

May 2014

My family has had to deal with bigotry from those who stigmatize the mentally ill for the past three decades, I view all bigotry against the mentally ill as an attack on my family whether it happens on this board or elsewhere.

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Those who stigmatize mental illness are harming my family, they can all fuck off. [View all] Bjorn Against May 2014 OP

I'm sorry your family suffers from mental illness JJChambers May 2014 #1

You need to stop with your bigoted attacks on the mentally ill. Now. Bjorn Against May 2014 #3

There's nothing wrong with locking up someone who is a danger to himself and others JJChambers May 2014 #4

there's a lot wrong with how that's been implemented everywhere it's been cali May 2014 #7

It says a lot about you that you would ask me to step back from an issue that effects my family Bjorn Against May 2014 #10

What in the hell makes you think that liberalhistorian May 2014 #23

Involuntary commitment to the state hospital JJChambers May 2014 #26

no difference iamthebandfanman May 2014 #33

Someone who has been involuntarily committed is flagged and cannot buy a gun JJChambers May 2014 #44

I'd be more concerned with people with a history of domestic abuse having a gun. Neoma May 2014 #60

They can buy them privately, am I correct? nt No Vested Interest May 2014 #75

Not legally Lee-Lee May 2014 #82

OK, that's even more liberalhistorian May 2014 #46

I 'finally' crashed and I happened to do it in VA. greiner3 May 2014 #65

Take their rights away when they have done nothing wrong. phil89 May 2014 #92

The great majority of the mentally ill aren't particularly dangerous. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #64

No one said this person's family member was a danger to anyone Leme May 2014 #99

No, he needs to take a step back because... JJChambers May 2014 #103

I consider it a greater attack Leme May 2014 #104

and YOU don't have a frickin' clue what you are talking about. none. zip. zilch. zero. cali May 2014 #5

be careful what you wish for Skittles May 2014 #6

If homicidal ideation is grounds for involuntary committed, then a significant amount of our society TexasTowelie May 2014 #14

This is one of the best posts in this thread. murielm99 May 2014 #18

And it's very frightening how many liberalhistorian May 2014 #28

HI and SI are grounds for commitment rustydog May 2014 #86

I don't know the specific details in Texas, but I believe there are similar requirements. TexasTowelie May 2014 #90

Why are you bringing Rodger Elliot into this ? Leme May 2014 #96

The OP started this based on his other posts in the Elliot threads JJChambers May 2014 #97

I stayed away from the santa Barbara threads, the Elliot threads Leme May 2014 #100

One may wonder your own reaction should you be committed (rightly or wrongly) involuntarily. LanternWaste May 2014 #98

K&R, and the Greatest Page for you. n/t CaliforniaPeggy May 2014 #2

k&r Starry Messenger May 2014 #8

I think we should have a way to distinguish mentally ill people like your brother pnwmom May 2014 #9

That part about him accumulating an arsenal is where the problem should have been dealt with Bjorn Against May 2014 #12

If Elliot Rodger had been involuntarily committed he would have been barred from purchasing a gun JJChambers May 2014 #15

I am done with your bigotry. Bjorn Against May 2014 #19

What do you suggest to protect society? JJChambers May 2014 #24

Yes, look at all the mentally ill who are liberalhistorian May 2014 #30

I think you're doing two things JJChambers May 2014 #34

I wasn't talking about state liberalhistorian May 2014 #43

They're more like to end up in prisons if they don't get treatment from hospitals and pnwmom May 2014 #80

I'd rather lock you up for being a poster who clearly has hearing problems. Neoma May 2014 #63

I feel your pain. bravenak May 2014 #72

Do you object to 3 day involuntary commitments for people whose family and/or doctors pnwmom May 2014 #32

I should hope not JJChambers May 2014 #36

There needs to be a mechanism other than "involuntarily commitment". Half-Century Man May 2014 #39

"One which would suspend access to firearms pending further assessment" AngryDem001 May 2014 #61

It would reduce the numbers available, particularly of assault weapons. The fact that pnwmom May 2014 #81

The Navy Yard shooter is a bad example Lee-Lee May 2014 #84

Any limits are only as good as what the government knows about a person in order to judge Lee-Lee May 2014 #83

You have no business even suggesting my family may be "shielding" my brother Bjorn Against May 2014 #85

Sorry, reality can be harsh Lee-Lee May 2014 #87

I am not sure about this shielding. Having dealt with the mentally ill, up to and through the courts freshwest May 2014 #95

Assuming his brother is dangerous merely due to mental illness is bigotry. Period. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #94

We don't. Period. cali May 2014 #25

we should have a way. we dont. the science is not there yet. mopinko May 2014 #57

How about common sense? When family members and doctors agree pnwmom May 2014 #79

common sense is no replacement for science. mopinko May 2014 #88

I'm sorry you feel hurt but I don't feel that way ecstatic May 2014 #11

What science am I ignoring? Bjorn Against May 2014 #13

you're speaking in generalities, while others are being very specific ecstatic May 2014 #20

well Leme May 2014 #102

There is a vast difference between a 3 day involuntary commitment, based on evidence pnwmom May 2014 #35

Your post should not have been hidden. bravenak May 2014 #16

are you saying what Ronald Reagan did was "For the best"? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #21

No. bravenak May 2014 #40

We lock them away in prison.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #42

I didn't know that. bravenak May 2014 #47

It didn't use to be this way....AND families had better options...you didn't JUST have to decide VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #50

Here you go.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #52

Thank you. bravenak May 2014 #55

I hate him even more now. bravenak May 2014 #70

K&R. TexasTowelie May 2014 #17

Thanks, you are a good person and you do not deserve to face stigma. Bjorn Against May 2014 #22

I'd just like to send you this cali May 2014 #27

I don't have an answer, but for years we locked up the mentally ill, and... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #29

Locked out of your own earlier OP, so you're giving it another go? 1000words May 2014 #31

Attacking the mentally ill is attacking my family Bjorn Against May 2014 #37

Each day on DU, there are some pretty nasty things said about Republicans in general. 1000words May 2014 #51

A cyber-fit? Bjorn Against May 2014 #53

Rounding up and imprisoning is exactly what we used to do. JoeyT May 2014 #68

This is true 1000words May 2014 #71

sorry, but mopinko May 2014 #56

Pardon? 1000words May 2014 #59

yeah, no, you are. mopinko May 2014 #62

I didn't have the opportunity to engage Bjorn in the other thread. 1000words May 2014 #66

"let's not pretend that it would only be people like him that would be locked away". THANK you for uppityperson May 2014 #38

How can your family be under attack by people on message boards on the internet? treestar May 2014 #41

The problem goes far beyond this message board Bjorn Against May 2014 #45

I also remember meeting that one fundy who read the bible literally... LanternWaste May 2014 #101

Bro dogknob May 2014 #48

The extreme paranoia and auditory hallucinations ... 1000words May 2014 #54

Mental illness and hyper-machismo certainly aren't mutually exclusive, though. Just saying. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #69

Of course not. dogknob May 2014 #73

As I've said before, it seems to have been a "perfect storm" of malign influences. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #74

I live in Bro Central: San Clemente, CA dogknob May 2014 #76

San Clemente? My sympathies... nomorenomore08 May 2014 #77

It's a long story, but living in Calibama has its perks. dogknob May 2014 #78

agreed. I skimmed through a large part of his manifesto... magical thyme May 2014 #91

people, even here, have a very hard time mopinko May 2014 #89

It is just another manifestation of "fear of the other" Half-Century Man May 2014 #49

my best to you and your family. mopinko May 2014 #58

K&R DeSwiss May 2014 #67

I'm mentally ill too Prophet 451 May 2014 #93