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houston_radical

(41 posts)
22. "A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state,
Tue May 27, 2014, 10:52 PM
May 2014

the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

is of course the 2nd Amendment. Many remember this second half, but not the first half. I read this to mean that we have the right to "keep and bear arms" in order to participate in "a well regulated militia" to ensure the "security of a [our] free state".

Actually the word "state" probably refers to one of the several states in our union - from some historical discussions on the formulation of this Amendment.

Check Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution and the well-known, "The President shall be the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States", which of course many know, but read just a little further, "and of the Militia of the several States ...".

So not only is the right to keep and bear arms meant to defend the state, but those participating must take orders from Obama!!

I love pointing this out to gun-nuts - who also often self-identify to be "strict constitutionalists". Checkmate.

Don't hold back tell us your real feelings. I agree 110% n/t doc03 May 2014 #1
Your real beef is with Scalia and Thomas. Loudly May 2014 #2
Scalia hasn't said that the right to keep and bear arms Vattel May 2014 #3
Scalia supports gun regulation. Read Heller. nt hack89 May 2014 #4
If/when one of them needs to be replaced IronLionZion May 2014 #21
So no one here supports gun bans? hack89 May 2014 #5
I'm a (former) gun owner and I 100% support Stryst May 2014 #17
So background checks plus licensing/registration = "gun bans"? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #20
There are posters on DU that support gun bans hack89 May 2014 #23
But they have no particular power to do so. And I would agree, on top of that, that they're both nomorenomore08 May 2014 #25
I support all proposed gun control with two exceptions hack89 May 2014 #27
The second I can understand, because of its necessarily arbitrary nature. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #29
I support firearm ID cards for gun owners. Nt hack89 May 2014 #32
Sounds like a good idea. And totally doable, LaPierre's shenanigans aside. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #35
I support registration. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #47
any restriction on their precious is black helicopters taking all their gunz. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #44
I wouldn't be opposed. Scootaloo May 2014 #26
No surprise there hack89 May 2014 #28
They really depend on whether someone shoots you or not world wide wally May 2014 #33
Why can't you carry a sword? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #48
K&R billh58 May 2014 #6
You are absolutely right. vlakitti May 2014 #38
La Pierre's paycheck depends on not giving a shit who gets killed rurallib May 2014 #7
Haha! Egnever May 2014 #8
Evil geniuses. With every mass shooting NRA tells members "Obama comin to git yer gunz fer sure now! ErikJ May 2014 #9
Never blkmusclmachine May 2014 #10
Very good rant Gman May 2014 #11
Fuck you Wayne. Fuck you Joe the Plumber. 47of74 May 2014 #12
. toby jo May 2014 #13
The NRA is a group of right wing nuts with Ted Nugent as one of their leaders. nt Logical May 2014 #14
Fuck him too world wide wally May 2014 #18
Everyone sing along!!! Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #15
You mean Not Joe Not the Plumber... LuvLoogie May 2014 #16
Did LaPee-Error speak again? I thought I heard a disgusting noise. lastlib May 2014 #19
I like your take on his name. 3catwoman3 May 2014 #37
"A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, houston_radical May 2014 #22
Go read the Democratic Party platform hack89 May 2014 #30
the Democratic Party platform is not law houston_radical May 2014 #36
Heller is the law of the land. hack89 May 2014 #43
So is Citizens United. Crunchy Frog May 2014 #45
Do the party and the president support Citizens United? nt hack89 May 2014 #46
Looks like somebody woke up on the wrong side of the syllogism this morning......... lastlib May 2014 #58
Heller specifically emphasizes that guns can be strictly regulated. How is that bad? hack89 May 2014 #59
A problem the legislature can remedy. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #52
Welcome to DU, houston_radical! calimary May 2014 #34
it just says "arms" houston_radical May 2014 #40
Yes, because the first amendment covers moveable-type press only. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #50
The President and any individual state's governor both have the power to call forth the militia. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #49
You are being too kind. CSStrowbridge May 2014 #24
Bad to study this epidemic of shootings? Really! At some point the media needs to ask Dustlawyer May 2014 #31
Wayne the Peter is a perfect example of the lowest common denominator. mbperrin May 2014 #39
"I've got a gun, I must be somebody" czarjak May 2014 #41
What is such a big deal about having a gun? treestar May 2014 #42
Does it really matter how many? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #51
LaPierre works for the gun manufacturers, and he's very good at what he does. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #53
That's why I called him a "fucking" liar world wide wally May 2014 #54
I get it ...... BlueJac May 2014 #55
He deserves most of that, and yet, he and the NRA are still effective. aikoaiko May 2014 #56
I like the cut of your jib. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #57
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