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geek tragedy

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22. it's textbook because you know that they would pull this stunt
Wed May 28, 2014, 12:50 AM
May 2014

in this thread, just like they do in every other thread.

There are most definitely men that have a major problem in relating to women as an equal human being Uncle Joe May 2014 #1
Since I can't say what I really need to say here, I'll just say this. William769 May 2014 #2
I thank you William! sheshe2 May 2014 #3
I find this depressing . . . MrModerate May 2014 #4
"Is this a desirable result? People turning off the concern? I'd think not." sheshe2 May 2014 #7
And I'm happy to see that acknowledgment . . . MrModerate May 2014 #10
Good point, sheshe2. calimary May 2014 #56
Good to see you hear calimary. sheshe2 May 2014 #63
Calimary!!! ProfessorGAC May 2014 #165
Oh I'm still loud-mouthing it around, I'm afraid... calimary May 2014 #172
Well G'luck To You and Yours ProfessorGAC May 2014 #191
well, do you actually read and try to learn something from those geek tragedy May 2014 #15
I feel that the author is saying listen now. Listen to the women roguevalley May 2014 #31
Point taken. n/t MrModerate May 2014 #33
and ask your friends here and in RL to listen too. To pay a bit of attention and bettyellen May 2014 #81
Actually we are being KILLED! sheshe2 May 2014 #70
I wish that graphic that shows the number of dead was in an OP Jamastiene May 2014 #75
Ha! sheshe2 May 2014 #80
Thank you. Jamastiene May 2014 #88
... sheshe2 May 2014 #90
In find this depressing too! sheshe2 May 2014 #86
In answer to your question . . . MrModerate May 2014 #105
I know it has been said ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #176
"Those most immediate to the discussion . . ." MrModerate May 2014 #195
Well from one man to another ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #207
I think you're probably right. MrModerate May 2014 #215
That is probably for the best ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #216
Wise words. Still makes me sad. MrModerate May 2014 #217
Why do women need to say all men if they know it isn't true? Thor_MN May 2014 #5
Where are women saying that it is all men? nt sheshe2 May 2014 #8
"Not all men" didn't just appear out of nowhere. Thor_MN May 2014 #12
"not all men" arose from men who want to derail the subject and are more interested in portraying geek tragedy May 2014 #16
You really didn't answer my question. Thor_MN May 2014 #20
why are you unable to ask a questions that aren't loaded and accusatory? geek tragedy May 2014 #23
I question hypocrisy where ever I see it. Thor_MN May 2014 #24
No, you are accusing and derailing. geek tragedy May 2014 #27
Please cite my whining. I asked a legitimate question and you are avoiding it like the plague. Thor_MN May 2014 #40
Your accusation of people here supporting stereotyping is blatantly bad faith and designed geek tragedy May 2014 #45
Again, you can't answer a simple question. Thor_MN May 2014 #55
again, you're fabricating claims that people are going around saying "all men are rapists/murderers/ geek tragedy May 2014 #60
Sorry, I've been through this plenty tonight and you are wrong. Thor_MN May 2014 #69
I disagree that it is acceptable or accurate. geek tragedy May 2014 #74
I find hypocrisy distasteful. Thor_MN May 2014 #85
You are choosing a very peculiar semantic quibble geek tragedy May 2014 #89
Where do you see outrage? I'm asking a question which people appear fearful to answer. Thor_MN May 2014 #93
Not all men derails the conversation - deliberately intaglio May 2014 #112
Did you read the OP? It is not about San Diego. Thor_MN May 2014 #120
#YesAllWomen is not about San Diego, it is about what women experience every day intaglio May 2014 #128
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #208
Whining weasel words intaglio May 2014 #212
There are none so blind as those who knee jerk attack. Thor_MN May 2014 #218
You have been through nothing intaglio May 2014 #111
Been through nothing... I don't know what is supposed to mean. Thor_MN May 2014 #121
Yes and #NotAllMen is a whiny "not my fault" excuse intaglio May 2014 #129
Again, I have never used a hashtag in this post Thor_MN May 2014 #139
Hard luck I did intaglio May 2014 #140
Projection. Thor_MN May 2014 #142
No I am telling you that you personally, along with others like you intaglio May 2014 #150
No, you are projecting your desire to argue with someone who is doing that Thor_MN May 2014 #152
Ah, so it's all meta and has no bearing upon actual misogyny intaglio May 2014 #173
In a word, Bullshit. You obviously have not read the OP, or are incapable of comprehension. Thor_MN May 2014 #180
You are complicit in misogyny as every post you have made on the subject shows intaglio May 2014 #143
Inserting your own hates and prejudices is telling. Thor_MN May 2014 #146
this is beyond ridiculous. derailing to the point of saying, anywhere in the universe any time, seabeyond May 2014 #149
That is the assertion you are making. Thor_MN May 2014 #156
And you accuse me of projection? intaglio May 2014 #154
intaglio. i am saying ... seabeyond May 2014 #159
Maybe because saying "men" with no qualifiers makes it harder for the rest of us to just assume nomorenomore08 May 2014 #68
True, and they ALWAYS think they are being so fucking original too, Raksha May 2014 #194
you really need to read before you argue. no. not all men, was not a counter to ANYONE saying ALL seabeyond May 2014 #32
not over nothing, this is like Republicans who complain about 'the race card' being played geek tragedy May 2014 #39
anyway geek. the article was awesome. as i was reading, i was thinking about men like you. seabeyond May 2014 #46
it took the willingness to listen. some men just don't feel that they geek tragedy May 2014 #48
did something click. did something make you say... oh fuck. i really was not seeing. seabeyond May 2014 #53
marriage has improved my listening skills and 'get it' capabilities geek tragedy May 2014 #58
i understand that. thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. i do appreciate it. nt seabeyond May 2014 #64
That is the first time I've seen a man own this and Skidmore May 2014 #109
...exactly..it moves the conversation, if there is one, prairierose May 2014 #168
Yes, and it did what was intended. It wore me out as it was offtopic and never ended. freshwest May 2014 #201
Absolutes will destroy your arguments every time. Thor_MN May 2014 #44
"many imply 'all men'" geek tragedy May 2014 #47
Not not trying to divide anyone. Thor_MN May 2014 #59
If there were to be a post that said "all men" then it would invite strict scrutiny and should geek tragedy May 2014 #65
all men watch porn and if your man says he doesnt he is lying. yup. nt seabeyond May 2014 #67
If there were to be a post that says "Allman," would that be appropriate? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #73
you are making it up. you said that 'notallmen" was started to counter "allmen". there was no seabeyond May 2014 #51
Same question to you. Thor_MN May 2014 #61
no. i addressed your post. what you said. that "notallmen" was countering an "allmen". seabeyond May 2014 #71
Sorry lost track in all the people kicking me around. Thor_MN May 2014 #78
i would bet i have read a zillion more on all this than you. i have seen no all men rape ... ever seabeyond May 2014 #82
So you are unable to even contemplate a hypothetical question. Thor_MN May 2014 #92
unable? of course i am ... able. seabeyond May 2014 #95
Able, but unwilling. Thor_MN May 2014 #97
no. as in, that was not the issue and had nothing to do with what i was addressing with your post. seabeyond May 2014 #100
I read the article and specifically chose this post to ask my question. Thor_MN May 2014 #103
i addressed your false statement. you are demanding that i answer your questions? no. that is not seabeyond May 2014 #104
Games. Thor_MN May 2014 #106
I think you demonstrated the OP very nicely noiretextatique May 2014 #107
Wow, feel free to insert your prejudices... Thor_MN May 2014 #122
poor you noiretextatique May 2014 #169
Please cite where I have claimed victimhood. Thor_MN May 2014 #181
no...it is about your fragile ego noiretextatique May 2014 #211
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #213
No, you tried to deflect the conversation in your first post intaglio May 2014 #114
Again what conversation? Thor_MN May 2014 #123
The conversation you, repeatedly, try to derail intaglio May 2014 #131
Can you please cite where I have ever used a hashtag? Thor_MN May 2014 #135
Another derail. intaglio May 2014 #137
Your misreading of my words is not a argument Thor_MN May 2014 #144
Oh, it's all about you it it and not the whining? intaglio May 2014 #148
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #209
Geez dude, you sound like a broken record!! alittlelark May 2014 #200
Geez honey, the responses are even more like a broken record. Thor_MN May 2014 #204
Citations of threads making your claimed implications or you are talking out of your cloaca intaglio May 2014 #113
Where did you pull that out of? Thor_MN May 2014 #125
You are now attempting to claim that you meant the entire internet intaglio May 2014 #134
They are present on DU threads, but I never limited my scope. Thor_MN May 2014 #136
If they are present cite them intaglio May 2014 #138
I have, but you are only reading what you want to read. Thor_MN May 2014 #141
You have provided evidence you are complicit in misogyny intaglio May 2014 #145
Please cite evidence, rather than what you are making up in your mind. Thor_MN May 2014 #151
The evidence is in your posts intaglio May 2014 #155
Specific examples please, and don't go on with your wild accusation that I support misogyny Thor_MN May 2014 #157
Read your own posts intaglio May 2014 #175
Good god, it is bigotry to even QUESTION if stereotyping is ever acceptable? Thor_MN May 2014 #177
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #210
Well... sheshe2 May 2014 #41
+1. n/t scruboak May 2014 #161
Thank you, scruboak. sheshe2 May 2014 #183
NOT a response to this tragedy and not in response to articles saying all men intaglio May 2014 #110
You say it "didn't just appear out of nowhere" scruboak May 2014 #164
Incorrect. I have given several examples, but the knee jerk reactions in this post are blind to them Thor_MN May 2014 #182
You are the only one in this thread saying "all men" passiveporcupine May 2014 #9
I was hoping to have a discussion, but I see that you are antagonistic. Thor_MN May 2014 #11
What you offered was textbook derailing and trolling, complete with passive aggressive "why you so geek tragedy May 2014 #18
you are suggesting so many are saying, all men commit mass murder? intellectually, common damn sense seabeyond May 2014 #30
#NotOneIota LOL bettyellen May 2014 #84
me too. love it. lol. nt seabeyond May 2014 #91
No you did not come here for a discussion. sheshe2 May 2014 #79
Mission Accomplished, thread destoyed. Sorry, She she. n/t freshwest May 2014 #202
Yes.... sheshe2 May 2014 #205
Citations of the threads saying all men intaglio May 2014 #115
Thank you, passiveporcupine. sheshe2 May 2014 #13
it's textbook because you know that they would pull this stunt geek tragedy May 2014 #22
Exactly The Roux Comes First May 2014 #197
The very title of the thread says #NOTALLMEN Jamastiene May 2014 #72
On the contrary, Thor_MN May 2014 #101
You are the one making claims without citation intaglio May 2014 #116
There never, ever, has been a single post on the entire internet that implies all men are xxxxx Thor_MN May 2014 #119
You cited DU specifically intaglio May 2014 #126
Really? Please cite where I did that. I have not used the letters D and U consecutively, Thor_MN May 2014 #130
OK, implied, now cite the DU threads that support your contention n/t intaglio May 2014 #133
You admit that you made that up. Possible that you are making other things up? Thor_MN May 2014 #158
Nope, but you are still denying reality intaglio May 2014 #174
Who has said "White Knight" other than you and what the hell does that even mean? Thor_MN May 2014 #178
Maybe you're not aware catrose May 2014 #147
No, what I have found here is the same exact hate and hypocrisy that you speak of. Thor_MN May 2014 #185
No, of Course Not The Roux Comes First May 2014 #199
Thank you. Thor_MN May 2014 #203
k&r Starry Messenger May 2014 #6
May I also suggest that it's a good idea to avoid saying things that make people defensive. Nye Bevan May 2014 #14
textbook. some feminist said something you didn't like months ago, so that's geek tragedy May 2014 #21
I simply don't think that statements such as "all men benefit from rape" Nye Bevan May 2014 #29
and you had that discussion MONTHS ago, yet here you are beating that dead horse,for obvious reasons geek tragedy May 2014 #35
"All men benefit from rape" was simply the first example that sprang to mind, Nye Bevan May 2014 #42
Well cite some more examples intaglio May 2014 #117
I don't either think that of all men but too many men don't seem to really hear us when roguevalley May 2014 #36
As a husband, and as a father of daughters, that stuff positively terrifies me. Nye Bevan May 2014 #43
I know they would. I know you would. But that is the life of women. roguevalley May 2014 #49
it was a feminists academic exercise in exploration from different angle and perspective seabeyond May 2014 #62
Personally, I tend to think telling the plain truth is more important. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #76
Here's my simple litmus test: Shandris May 2014 #17
Sigh. This is example #3 of trying to derail geek tragedy May 2014 #25
Wait. Let me get this straight. I'm...DERAILING...a thread with an OP about why... Shandris May 2014 #34
no, you blatantly distorted the OP, but thanks for playing, go ahead and play the victim, it's geek tragedy May 2014 #37
I'm playing the victim? Erm...alright. I'm not sure how I'm the victim, given that... Shandris May 2014 #50
well, as a man, I can say that those who play the "not all men" game are not serving my interests geek tragedy May 2014 #54
I aleady told you that I wasn't going to confront you... Shandris May 2014 #77
Had you not doubled down on the false and misleading geek tragedy May 2014 #83
"I'm -not- certain all my sisters have my best (or even -any-) of my best interests at heart." sheshe2 May 2014 #102
did they read the OP? noiretextatique May 2014 #108
Some people just don't know their place. AngryAmish May 2014 #127
apparently not noiretextatique May 2014 #170
Started reading#YesAllWomen b/c I've got a daughter,now I see I should be reading b/c I've got 2 son seabeyond May 2014 #19
I thought of you sea, sheshe2 May 2014 #28
well. seeing how i am all into behavior, sociology, psychology and the like, i am having a blast. seabeyond May 2014 #38
You are definitely up to the challenge, sea~ nt sheshe2 May 2014 #187
+1. n/t scruboak May 2014 #162
Post an answer that 100% agrees with the OP, and Phlem May 2014 #26
And you are saying what Phlem? nt sheshe2 May 2014 #52
The new hashtag starting is #YesAllPeople davidn3600 May 2014 #57
and that hashtag is another attempt to derail the conversation intaglio May 2014 #118
try #HeadInThe Sand bettyellen May 2014 #171
+1! sheshe2 May 2014 #186
Thanks for the link. wickerwoman May 2014 #66
The OP is excellent and has a lot of important information defacto7 May 2014 #87
Thank you for this.... bettyellen May 2014 #94
Thanks bettyellen. sheshe2 May 2014 #188
I will be so glad when the day arrives that these threads are no longer needed.... steve2470 May 2014 #96
"Men, feminists are our allies ! " ahhhhh. seabeyond May 2014 #98
glad I could make you smile steve2470 May 2014 #99
So basically this thread turned into a textbook example of the behavior. MadrasT May 2014 #124
K&R nt stevenleser May 2014 #132
"Why is it not helpful to say “not all men are like that”?" baldguy May 2014 #153
see here, went over like a lead balloon, sorry to say. boston bean May 2014 #160
cartoons made about it. blogs... people all over the net talking about "notallmen". men and seabeyond May 2014 #163
k and r, and sighing for the expected backlash. niyad May 2014 #166
C'est la vie, niyad. sheshe2 May 2014 #192
Teach your sons smallcat88 May 2014 #167
K & R SunSeeker May 2014 #179
red pillers must be short... they keep saying #no tall men paulkienitz May 2014 #184
Yes, yes, yes me b zola May 2014 #189
Thanks, sheshe2. The whole column, especially the tweets, is/are great. spooky3 May 2014 #190
K & R Raksha May 2014 #193
And yet wouldn't a lot of "This man is not like that" DirkGently May 2014 #196
Read the article. nt sheshe2 May 2014 #198
The answers are in the article, which is awesome.... bettyellen May 2014 #214
Kicking... sheshe2 May 2014 #206
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