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In reply to the discussion: #NOTALLMEN: How Not to Derail Discussions of Women's Issues [View all]MrModerate
(9,753 posts)215. I think you're probably right.
And because that interpretation is grossly unfair (to the very concept of 'discussion,' if not to me), I think I'll talk about something else.
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There are most definitely men that have a major problem in relating to women as an equal human being
Uncle Joe
May 2014
#1
and ask your friends here and in RL to listen too. To pay a bit of attention and
bettyellen
May 2014
#81
"not all men" arose from men who want to derail the subject and are more interested in portraying
geek tragedy
May 2014
#16
Please cite my whining. I asked a legitimate question and you are avoiding it like the plague.
Thor_MN
May 2014
#40
Your accusation of people here supporting stereotyping is blatantly bad faith and designed
geek tragedy
May 2014
#45
again, you're fabricating claims that people are going around saying "all men are rapists/murderers/
geek tragedy
May 2014
#60
Where do you see outrage? I'm asking a question which people appear fearful to answer.
Thor_MN
May 2014
#93
#YesAllWomen is not about San Diego, it is about what women experience every day
intaglio
May 2014
#128
In a word, Bullshit. You obviously have not read the OP, or are incapable of comprehension.
Thor_MN
May 2014
#180
You are complicit in misogyny as every post you have made on the subject shows
intaglio
May 2014
#143
this is beyond ridiculous. derailing to the point of saying, anywhere in the universe any time,
seabeyond
May 2014
#149
Maybe because saying "men" with no qualifiers makes it harder for the rest of us to just assume
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#68
you really need to read before you argue. no. not all men, was not a counter to ANYONE saying ALL
seabeyond
May 2014
#32
not over nothing, this is like Republicans who complain about 'the race card' being played
geek tragedy
May 2014
#39
anyway geek. the article was awesome. as i was reading, i was thinking about men like you.
seabeyond
May 2014
#46
did something click. did something make you say... oh fuck. i really was not seeing.
seabeyond
May 2014
#53
i understand that. thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. i do appreciate it. nt
seabeyond
May 2014
#64
Yes, and it did what was intended. It wore me out as it was offtopic and never ended.
freshwest
May 2014
#201
If there were to be a post that said "all men" then it would invite strict scrutiny and should
geek tragedy
May 2014
#65
If there were to be a post that says "Allman," would that be appropriate?
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#73
you are making it up. you said that 'notallmen" was started to counter "allmen". there was no
seabeyond
May 2014
#51
no. i addressed your post. what you said. that "notallmen" was countering an "allmen".
seabeyond
May 2014
#71
i would bet i have read a zillion more on all this than you. i have seen no all men rape ... ever
seabeyond
May 2014
#82
no. as in, that was not the issue and had nothing to do with what i was addressing with your post.
seabeyond
May 2014
#100
i addressed your false statement. you are demanding that i answer your questions? no. that is not
seabeyond
May 2014
#104
Citations of threads making your claimed implications or you are talking out of your cloaca
intaglio
May 2014
#113
Specific examples please, and don't go on with your wild accusation that I support misogyny
Thor_MN
May 2014
#157
NOT a response to this tragedy and not in response to articles saying all men
intaglio
May 2014
#110
Incorrect. I have given several examples, but the knee jerk reactions in this post are blind to them
Thor_MN
May 2014
#182
What you offered was textbook derailing and trolling, complete with passive aggressive "why you so
geek tragedy
May 2014
#18
you are suggesting so many are saying, all men commit mass murder? intellectually, common damn sense
seabeyond
May 2014
#30
There never, ever, has been a single post on the entire internet that implies all men are xxxxx
Thor_MN
May 2014
#119
Really? Please cite where I did that. I have not used the letters D and U consecutively,
Thor_MN
May 2014
#130
You admit that you made that up. Possible that you are making other things up?
Thor_MN
May 2014
#158
Who has said "White Knight" other than you and what the hell does that even mean?
Thor_MN
May 2014
#178
No, what I have found here is the same exact hate and hypocrisy that you speak of.
Thor_MN
May 2014
#185
May I also suggest that it's a good idea to avoid saying things that make people defensive.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#14
textbook. some feminist said something you didn't like months ago, so that's
geek tragedy
May 2014
#21
and you had that discussion MONTHS ago, yet here you are beating that dead horse,for obvious reasons
geek tragedy
May 2014
#35
"All men benefit from rape" was simply the first example that sprang to mind,
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#42
I don't either think that of all men but too many men don't seem to really hear us when
roguevalley
May 2014
#36
As a husband, and as a father of daughters, that stuff positively terrifies me.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#43
it was a feminists academic exercise in exploration from different angle and perspective
seabeyond
May 2014
#62
Wait. Let me get this straight. I'm...DERAILING...a thread with an OP about why...
Shandris
May 2014
#34
no, you blatantly distorted the OP, but thanks for playing, go ahead and play the victim, it's
geek tragedy
May 2014
#37
I'm playing the victim? Erm...alright. I'm not sure how I'm the victim, given that...
Shandris
May 2014
#50
well, as a man, I can say that those who play the "not all men" game are not serving my interests
geek tragedy
May 2014
#54
"I'm -not- certain all my sisters have my best (or even -any-) of my best interests at heart."
sheshe2
May 2014
#102
Started reading#YesAllWomen b/c I've got a daughter,now I see I should be reading b/c I've got 2 son
seabeyond
May 2014
#19
well. seeing how i am all into behavior, sociology, psychology and the like, i am having a blast.
seabeyond
May 2014
#38
I will be so glad when the day arrives that these threads are no longer needed....
steve2470
May 2014
#96
cartoons made about it. blogs... people all over the net talking about "notallmen". men and
seabeyond
May 2014
#163