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ismnotwasm

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83. Ew

Thu May 29, 2014, 08:10 PM

May 2014

Yet somehow, when it’s all said and done, the woman is invariably happy that I didn’t listen to a single word of protest she uttered; that I barreled through her resistance nonchalantly and drove the ball to the basket. Women RESPECT this sexual insistence even if they aren’t acutely aware of it.

Sounds like rape to me. What a piece of shit

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because apparently some people think this is up for debate [View all] geek tragedy May 2014 OP

kick to mark uppityperson May 2014 #1

Correct 99.99% of the time Lurks Often May 2014 #2

actually. you are wrong. no does mean no. even if playing a game, there is a safe word... for no seabeyond May 2014 #29

And now we're arguing semantics Lurks Often May 2014 #51

we are not starting with me. but. that is a fact. no does indeed mean no. even playing a game. seabeyond May 2014 #54

I essentially agreed with you Lurks Often May 2014 #57

since it was an "essentially" i was not totally clear. and i was reiterating. seabeyond May 2014 #62

You're the one playing semantics. No means no. If certain people want to substitute a different word redqueen May 2014 #61

Goddess, did he really say most here agree with him? redqueen May 2014 #3

yes geek tragedy May 2014 #6

Aha... See, I couldn't make heads or tails of that sentence. redqueen May 2014 #7

Please post a link to the thread ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #26

will pm you the link nt geek tragedy May 2014 #36

When you get the chance please PM me as well. Nt. thucythucy May 2014 #85

I've noticed most of those posters come out late at night. Must feel lonely or bored... freshwest May 2014 #75

Or the bars have all closed ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #76

Well, that was my first thought, too, but I didn't want to be accused of being a man-hating '___.' freshwest May 2014 #77

Wow. How did I miss that. gollygee May 2014 #4

Um ... wat? closeupready May 2014 #5

earlier today was debating someone geek tragedy May 2014 #8

That's what I was afraid of - people on this board these days closeupready May 2014 #9

this person is a host of two groups/forums and has over 14K posts nt geek tragedy May 2014 #11

Ah, so this is a thinly veiled callout thread. Why not include a link too while you're at it? nt Electric Monk May 2014 #12

the person claimed I was insulting the intelligence of geek tragedy May 2014 #16

If your purpose is "to see who is actually more inline with community standards" then I'm with you Jim Lane May 2014 #102

I myself don't think no necessarily means discussion over. geek tragedy May 2014 #103

I agree with your interpretation, but not everyone here does. Jim Lane May 2014 #104

The "host" coupled with the quote gave me a good idea who you meant...and... Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #18

Sadly, I knew exactly who had said that (without actually reading it) etherealtruth May 2014 #69

No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #28

Badge of honor.nt bravenak May 2014 #81

Un fucking believable! William769 May 2014 #10

was a debate over this quote from an author: geek tragedy May 2014 #15

There are a couple to choose from. William769 May 2014 #17

I'll stop here before I get myself into trouble. seabeyond May 2014 #33

Years and years of dealing with assholes William769 May 2014 #40

....... seabeyond May 2014 #45

there is a potentially interesting discussion of the interesection of art (particularly cinema) and el_bryanto May 2014 #20

sure, but that's not inconsistent with 'no means no' geek tragedy May 2014 #22

Nods - I guess I'm thinking along those lines because of Andrew O'Herir's article el_bryanto May 2014 #25

Rogen and Favreau are probably bad examples geek tragedy May 2014 #31

yep - well like i say there's a longer discussion to be had here el_bryanto May 2014 #37

this onion story comes to mind: geek tragedy May 2014 #39

"Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape." ?????? gollygee May 2014 #23

yes, outside of MRA misogynist circles this author is reviled. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #24

sounds like Warren Farrell m-lekktor May 2014 #43

ding ding ding! geek tragedy May 2014 #44

Yes. A few people here used to go on and on about how the president asked him to redqueen May 2014 #30

a claim that was found only at the person's eponymous website nt geek tragedy May 2014 #32

Surely it's true! If you can't trust a rape and pedophilia apologist then who can you trust? redqueen May 2014 #38

I think his comments about "family sex" (his euphemism for incest) are even worse. nt redqueen May 2014 #34

Ack!! gollygee May 2014 #35

I heard of him when someone posted an OP about his book - The Myth of Male Power. redqueen May 2014 #41

do a google search for: date rape date fraud exciting geek tragedy May 2014 #42

I was reading that too and this person is sick and demented, surely hope NOBODY on this forum randys1 May 2014 #47

Don't Pay! If you think dinner means more than dinner. abakan May 2014 #84

"We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud,we called it excitin"? uppityperson May 2014 #55

uppity, can you pm me with a link where that comes from? Sissyk May 2014 #63

I had it, closed it, let me see what I can find. Dang, can't find it. eta uppityperson May 2014 #65

Thanks, uppity! Sissyk May 2014 #67

I have it, here ya go: geek tragedy May 2014 #66

ugh. It reminds me of an ex who warned me about what to expect, re-entering the dating scene uppityperson May 2014 #68

was that from July 2012 post as search gave me a post by him then with this in it, or more recent? uppityperson May 2014 #71

will pm you. geek tragedy May 2014 #72

thanks. I am willing to give people a chance to update opinions and appreciate seeing them. uppityperson May 2014 #73

"No means no" is easy. What "yes" means is sometimes easy, but sometimes hard. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #13

Well said. nt redqueen May 2014 #19

no means no. and if a yes cause she is cowardly and cannot walk beyond the societal structures that seabeyond May 2014 #14

yup. eom uppityperson May 2014 #56

Oh, look who else says no sometimes means yes: redqueen May 2014 #21

What ridiculous site is that, I feel dirty now randys1 May 2014 #49

Women RESPECT being raped. good god uppityperson May 2014 #58

Oh, lookee! He's got a book! And a website! And he lives abroad! What cool beans! PM? freshwest May 2014 #74

Ew ismnotwasm May 2014 #83

K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #27

It is an irrelevant question, really... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #46

exactly, there is no interpretation to be done when a no has been spoken nt geek tragedy May 2014 #48

But do continually reevaluate apparent consent. redqueen May 2014 #50

which is excellent advice to avoid being a selfish, lousy lover geek tragedy May 2014 #52

Absolutely. You put it perfectly. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #53

Yep. n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #60

This.. one_voice May 2014 #88

Well, I ASSUME you mean the one member that picked option 2? Sissyk May 2014 #59

No always means Stop. Iggo May 2014 #64

Oh for Pete's sake NO means NO etherealtruth May 2014 #70

If 'no' always meant 'no', we'd never ask a second time dickthegrouch May 2014 #78

"Maybe" is not good enough. MadrasT May 2014 #79

Speak for yourself. arcane1 May 2014 #82

Posting this poll is flame bait. Hosnon May 2014 #80

several people have endorsed the work of an author who has made that claim. geek tragedy May 2014 #91

This question presumes an act had been perpetrated Trajan May 2014 #86

of course. no means no until the person says yes. geek tragedy May 2014 #87

That option ... Trajan May 2014 #89

both are subsumed under "no means no" nt geek tragedy May 2014 #90

The word "YES" does not always have to be "clearly uttered". Nye Bevan May 2014 #94

Thanks, that's what I was trying to convey /nt dickthegrouch May 2014 #100

In another thread, I just saw someone actually post that if anything bad happens Jamastiene May 2014 #92

really? sure it wasn't snark? geek tragedy May 2014 #93

Yes, I'm sure it wasn't snark. Jamastiene May 2014 #95

we'lll see if the other misogynist pigs are over at discussionist or whether they're geek tragedy May 2014 #96

Wow. And a jury voted to leave it. I'd like to see the results. redqueen May 2014 #99

Okay. davidthegnome May 2014 #97

do a site/google search for this phrase: geek tragedy May 2014 #98

Did you find it yet? Got anything else to say? nt redqueen May 2014 #101

Um, you two, you do realize that we can see who you are KamaAina May 2014 #105

"the no means no meme is bullshit" = a direct quote from a DUer nt geek tragedy May 2014 #106