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kick to mark uppityperson May 2014 #1
Correct 99.99% of the time Lurks Often May 2014 #2
actually. you are wrong. no does mean no. even if playing a game, there is a safe word... for no seabeyond May 2014 #29
And now we're arguing semantics Lurks Often May 2014 #51
we are not starting with me. but. that is a fact. no does indeed mean no. even playing a game. seabeyond May 2014 #54
I essentially agreed with you Lurks Often May 2014 #57
since it was an "essentially" i was not totally clear. and i was reiterating. seabeyond May 2014 #62
You're the one playing semantics. No means no. If certain people want to substitute a different word redqueen May 2014 #61
Goddess, did he really say most here agree with him? redqueen May 2014 #3
yes geek tragedy May 2014 #6
Aha... See, I couldn't make heads or tails of that sentence. redqueen May 2014 #7
Please post a link to the thread ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #26
will pm you the link nt geek tragedy May 2014 #36
When you get the chance please PM me as well. Nt. thucythucy May 2014 #85
I've noticed most of those posters come out late at night. Must feel lonely or bored... freshwest May 2014 #75
Or the bars have all closed ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #76
Well, that was my first thought, too, but I didn't want to be accused of being a man-hating '___.' freshwest May 2014 #77
Wow. How did I miss that. gollygee May 2014 #4
Um ... wat? closeupready May 2014 #5
earlier today was debating someone geek tragedy May 2014 #8
That's what I was afraid of - people on this board these days closeupready May 2014 #9
this person is a host of two groups/forums and has over 14K posts nt geek tragedy May 2014 #11
Ah, so this is a thinly veiled callout thread. Why not include a link too while you're at it? nt Electric Monk May 2014 #12
the person claimed I was insulting the intelligence of geek tragedy May 2014 #16
If your purpose is "to see who is actually more inline with community standards" then I'm with you Jim Lane May 2014 #102
I myself don't think no necessarily means discussion over. geek tragedy May 2014 #103
I agree with your interpretation, but not everyone here does. Jim Lane May 2014 #104
The "host" coupled with the quote gave me a good idea who you meant...and... Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #18
Sadly, I knew exactly who had said that (without actually reading it) etherealtruth May 2014 #69
No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #28
Badge of honor.nt bravenak May 2014 #81
Un fucking believable! William769 May 2014 #10
was a debate over this quote from an author: geek tragedy May 2014 #15
There are a couple to choose from. William769 May 2014 #17
I'll stop here before I get myself into trouble. seabeyond May 2014 #33
Years and years of dealing with assholes William769 May 2014 #40
....... seabeyond May 2014 #45
there is a potentially interesting discussion of the interesection of art (particularly cinema) and el_bryanto May 2014 #20
sure, but that's not inconsistent with 'no means no' geek tragedy May 2014 #22
Nods - I guess I'm thinking along those lines because of Andrew O'Herir's article el_bryanto May 2014 #25
Rogen and Favreau are probably bad examples geek tragedy May 2014 #31
yep - well like i say there's a longer discussion to be had here el_bryanto May 2014 #37
this onion story comes to mind: geek tragedy May 2014 #39
"Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape." ?????? gollygee May 2014 #23
yes, outside of MRA misogynist circles this author is reviled. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #24
sounds like Warren Farrell m-lekktor May 2014 #43
ding ding ding! geek tragedy May 2014 #44
Yes. A few people here used to go on and on about how the president asked him to redqueen May 2014 #30
a claim that was found only at the person's eponymous website nt geek tragedy May 2014 #32
Surely it's true! If you can't trust a rape and pedophilia apologist then who can you trust? redqueen May 2014 #38
I think his comments about "family sex" (his euphemism for incest) are even worse. nt redqueen May 2014 #34
Ack!! gollygee May 2014 #35
I heard of him when someone posted an OP about his book - The Myth of Male Power. redqueen May 2014 #41
do a google search for: date rape date fraud exciting geek tragedy May 2014 #42
I was reading that too and this person is sick and demented, surely hope NOBODY on this forum randys1 May 2014 #47
Don't Pay! If you think dinner means more than dinner. abakan May 2014 #84
"We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud,we called it excitin"? uppityperson May 2014 #55
uppity, can you pm me with a link where that comes from? Sissyk May 2014 #63
I had it, closed it, let me see what I can find. Dang, can't find it. eta uppityperson May 2014 #65
Thanks, uppity! Sissyk May 2014 #67
I have it, here ya go: geek tragedy May 2014 #66
ugh. It reminds me of an ex who warned me about what to expect, re-entering the dating scene uppityperson May 2014 #68
was that from July 2012 post as search gave me a post by him then with this in it, or more recent? uppityperson May 2014 #71
will pm you. geek tragedy May 2014 #72
thanks. I am willing to give people a chance to update opinions and appreciate seeing them. uppityperson May 2014 #73
"No means no" is easy. What "yes" means is sometimes easy, but sometimes hard. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #13
Well said. nt redqueen May 2014 #19
no means no. and if a yes cause she is cowardly and cannot walk beyond the societal structures that seabeyond May 2014 #14
yup. eom uppityperson May 2014 #56
Oh, look who else says no sometimes means yes: redqueen May 2014 #21
What ridiculous site is that, I feel dirty now randys1 May 2014 #49
Women RESPECT being raped. good god uppityperson May 2014 #58
Oh, lookee! He's got a book! And a website! And he lives abroad! What cool beans! PM? freshwest May 2014 #74
Ew ismnotwasm May 2014 #83
K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #27
It is an irrelevant question, really... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #46
exactly, there is no interpretation to be done when a no has been spoken nt geek tragedy May 2014 #48
But do continually reevaluate apparent consent. redqueen May 2014 #50
which is excellent advice to avoid being a selfish, lousy lover geek tragedy May 2014 #52
Absolutely. You put it perfectly. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #53
Yep. n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #60
This.. one_voice May 2014 #88
Well, I ASSUME you mean the one member that picked option 2? Sissyk May 2014 #59
No always means Stop. Iggo May 2014 #64
Oh for Pete's sake NO means NO etherealtruth May 2014 #70
If 'no' always meant 'no', we'd never ask a second time dickthegrouch May 2014 #78
"Maybe" is not good enough. MadrasT May 2014 #79
Speak for yourself. arcane1 May 2014 #82
Posting this poll is flame bait. Hosnon May 2014 #80
several people have endorsed the work of an author who has made that claim. geek tragedy May 2014 #91
This question presumes an act had been perpetrated Trajan May 2014 #86
of course. no means no until the person says yes. geek tragedy May 2014 #87
That option ... Trajan May 2014 #89
both are subsumed under "no means no" nt geek tragedy May 2014 #90
The word "YES" does not always have to be "clearly uttered". Nye Bevan May 2014 #94
Thanks, that's what I was trying to convey /nt dickthegrouch May 2014 #100
In another thread, I just saw someone actually post that if anything bad happens Jamastiene May 2014 #92
really? sure it wasn't snark? geek tragedy May 2014 #93
Yes, I'm sure it wasn't snark. Jamastiene May 2014 #95
we'lll see if the other misogynist pigs are over at discussionist or whether they're geek tragedy May 2014 #96
Wow. And a jury voted to leave it. I'd like to see the results. redqueen May 2014 #99
Okay. davidthegnome May 2014 #97
do a site/google search for this phrase: geek tragedy May 2014 #98
Did you find it yet? Got anything else to say? nt redqueen May 2014 #101
Um, you two, you do realize that we can see who you are KamaAina May 2014 #105
"the no means no meme is bullshit" = a direct quote from a DUer nt geek tragedy May 2014 #106
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