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84. I dunno.. maybe both equally. I do know that Snowden's Lies are nothing to "yawn" about..
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:59 PM
May 2014
The 13 Most Bizarre Things from Edward Snowden’s NBC News Interview


Last night, while watching Brian Williams’ interview with Ed Snowden, I actually agreed with Glenn Greenwald about something. Back in 2012, Greenwald referred to Williams as “NBC News’ top hagiographer,” using “his reverent, soothing, self-important baritone” to deliver information in its “purest, most propagandistic, and most subservient form.”

It’s worth noting at the outset that Greenwald flew all the way to Moscow specifically for the NBC News interview, and he appeared on camera with Snowden and Williams, answering questions from this so-called “hagiographer.”

When GG called Brian Williams NBC News' top hagiographer


1) Snowden claimed he has “no relationship” with the Russian government and that he’s “not supported” by it. That’s odd, given how the Russian government has twice offered him asylum and one of his lawyers, Anatoly Kucherena, is an attorney with the Russian intelligence agency, the FSB (formerly the KGB). Tell me again why anyone should trust this guy?

2) “Sometimes to do the right thing you have to break a law.” So it’s really up to each of us individually to decide whether our own interpretation of “doing the right thing” necessitates breaking the law? A lot of awful things have occurred with that exact justification. Also, what if NSA feels the same way, Ed?

4) Early on, Snowden said, “I’m not a spy.” Later he famously confessed to being “trained as a spy.” Huh?


12) “People have unfairly demonized the NSA to a point that is too extreme.” Why is Snowden an apologist for the surveillance state? Drooling! Vast!


"Ultimately, Snowden is his own worst enemy and his ongoing ability to say crazy things in a calm, collected voice continues. What’s abundantly clear at this point is that no one will ever land an interview with Snowden who will be as adversarial against the former NSA contractor as Greenwald has been in his own reporting in defense of Snowden. It’ll never happen."

MOre Shite from Snowden..

hat tip Little Green Footballs? Enrique May 2014 #1
Good find. But no, I don't think you'll see a hat tip from the OP DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #12
These are Glenn Greenwald's tweets Cali_Democrat May 2014 #24
Golly gee, I don't know. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #30
So because another website also described Glenn Greenwald's hilarious contradiction, Cali_Democrat May 2014 #33
Quoting tweets has never been the matter in dispute DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #36
Actually a comment at the end of an article I was reading while crusing google news... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #42
It's not a contradiction. Hissyspit May 2014 #68
bc it's their the story. nashville_brook May 2014 #31
Why is it their exclusive story when anyone in the world could have seen these quotes pnwmom May 2014 #81
Enrique is the one who's been trolling RW sites. There's no evidence Cali has been. pnwmom May 2014 #48
I'd request that you re-read everything above this line. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #55
Sorry, once is enough. If there's something specific you're talking about, tell me. n/t pnwmom May 2014 #61
I did talk about it. You weren't able to get it. Have a nice weekend. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #73
Which of today's articles is the most right-wingish? OilemFirchen May 2014 #58
Ya...I'm reading that website right now Cali_Democrat May 2014 #59
Unpossible! OilemFirchen May 2014 #74
I like the articles at that website! Cali_Democrat May 2014 #76
My pleasure. OilemFirchen May 2014 #79
Don't sweat it. Guess who else used to be a card carrying Republican. Elizabeth Warren, the one... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #94
There are exceptions to every rule. OilemFirchen May 2014 #106
Interesting post! I have to admit that I was also unaware that the mission of LGF had changed Number23 May 2014 #101
Yeah, the guy who runs it went and got saved and switched sides in 2009. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #75
So he previously supported Bush and the war on terror.... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #77
Uh oh. Now you've REALLY earned the scorn of the Greenwaldians. Of course GG says he had politcal Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #80
And boom goes the dynamite...nt SidDithers May 2014 #91
No. He supported Bush vocally and in print, unlike Greenwald. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #102
LOL!! Cali_Democrat May 2014 #111
No thanks. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #113
"You magically used the words of a right-winger" Cali_Democrat May 2014 #116
And thus endeth the subthread... Number23 May 2014 #105
It's his website, BTW. So he can do whatever the fuck he wants. OilemFirchen May 2014 #83
Is there a cloud you should be yelling at? DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #104
You're welcome. OilemFirchen May 2014 #112
I've acknowledged no such thing, and I've already bid you farewell. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #114
I'm ecstatic that you've opted to ignore Cali_Democrat's advice. OilemFirchen May 2014 #118
'First Look at Me' Media...... BWHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Whisp Jun 2014 #173
Don't you mean the "fledgling" 'First Look at Me'? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #178
Charles Johnson appears to have a major hard-on for Greenwald... WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author OilemFirchen May 2014 #115
It's where the hits are. joshcryer May 2014 #146
That's a sad state of affairs. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #186
Early on, I objected to Greenwald's obvious ignorance re technology, Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #2
LOL. Of course that is expected of a proven liar. The PTL Club won't mind tho. n/t Whisp May 2014 #3
Proven liar? Your wish projection is showing DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #4
Sorry, it's not a contradiction on Greenwald's part. Hissyspit May 2014 #23
There is no history of lying from Snowden. You, on the other hand, woo me with science May 2014 #46
Easy enough to find for anyone with objective typing skills. randome May 2014 #132
How embarrassing, or shameless, to post links that prove the untruthfulness of your own claims. woo me with science May 2014 #140
He quit working for the NSA then returned in early 2013. randome May 2014 #143
EXHIBIT A of the diversion & twisting to mislead that has become so familiar from the NSA Defense. woo me with science May 2014 #144
lol. Of course you can't back out now. Just carry on! Whisp May 2014 #152
Why would I back out? Your smear was proven untrue. woo me with science May 2014 #160
Snowden's and GG's house of cards are falling down Whisp May 2014 #161
. ProSense May 2014 #5
It's not hilarious. Hissyspit May 2014 #26
Yes, ProSense May 2014 #27
No, it's not. Hissyspit May 2014 #71
Yes, it is. I saw it, and it's a misread. It also has nothing to do with the point I made. n/t ProSense May 2014 #72
Everyone should follow Glenn's twitter feed Blue_Tires May 2014 #6
Did you notice that Glenn Greenwald referenced a DUer in his twitter feed? Cali_Democrat May 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #22
Who would that be? eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #35
Look at the tweet from Cali_Democrat May 2014 #37
Oh come on, how 'bout for those of us who don't tweet? The curiosity is killin' us. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #40
Luminous Animal, his biggest defender here. joshcryer May 2014 #52
Well that makes sense. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #60
Hope she's getting paid. joshcryer May 2014 #66
GG=Sheister. Once an ambulance chaser, always an ambulance chaser. I'll bet Pierre is spending.... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #69
"Sheister" - is that how the kids are spelling it these days? (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #92
Nope. We're spelling it GG! Same difference. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #98
Whooooosh! WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #109
I'm shocked! Whisp Jun 2014 #174
I'm at a loss. eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #54
Oh my....did you ever read the thread where I was threatened about how the msanthrope May 2014 #122
"schizoid" Jamaal510 May 2014 #8
There's nothing more hilarious than a Glenn Greenwald Twit Fit MohRokTah May 2014 #39
Ad Hominem, as usual. Hissyspit May 2014 #65
when is he going to release the names ? and isn't there some other big thing he says that still JI7 May 2014 #9
No. It's still big news that NSA was caught in another lie. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #10
O'Keefe? Cali_Democrat May 2014 #13
bless you. nt DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #15
Thanks Cali_Democrat May 2014 #16
people are upset, they made a huge thing out of all of this but the actual things that come out JI7 May 2014 #19
Sibel Edmonds says you DO NOT want to stir up GG's devotees. She's, obviously, had some brushes.... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #43
tell us something we don't know....there is some of that kind of creepy right here on DU! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #157
And they have absolutely no sense of irony. Apparently, all his detractors are "paid". Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #159
Well my check musta gotten lost in the mail....Damn you USPS!!!! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #162
That makes two of us. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #172
That's probably GG posing as a fierce defender/s. Whisp Jun 2014 #175
I have an idea of his DU name, but won't say aloud. Nasty, horrible, thin skinned, Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #177
PM me??? nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #179
Another Scott Adams, huh? Figures. randome Jun 2014 #197
Ty for pointing out that the OP is yet another attempt to identify inconsistency where none exists. Vattel May 2014 #17
Anytime. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #53
I see no "inconsistency" either. MNBrewer May 2014 #63
Saying that something is the "biggest news" one day ... NanceGreggs May 2014 #82
Serious as a heart attack, Nance. MNBrewer May 2014 #88
Uh, no. NanceGreggs May 2014 #96
Well Nance, sometimes in the haze of committing crimes, you can't expect to remember everything. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #99
True that! NanceGreggs May 2014 #119
Cause Snowden is a super cracker (tt) , he'll crack a file and store it in his cerebral cortex !!! uponit7771 May 2014 #167
You do a good job leading horses to water. Vattel May 2014 #139
No 'hero' uses this amount of sophistry during just normal questioning... they're full of crap uponit7771 May 2014 #168
He did not in fact file any concerns. joshcryer May 2014 #147
Ummm, fuckin no Snowden said he DID invoke proper channels.. he fuckin lied... PERIOD uponit7771 May 2014 #166
Greenwald ProSense May 2014 #25
this is like Benghazi when republicans go on about "why didn't he call it terrrosim" JI7 May 2014 #11
Keeping up with those Republican blogs are we? Maven May 2014 #14
"Now that you've been exposed" Cali_Democrat May 2014 #20
I assume you're referring to the first post in this thread Cali_Democrat May 2014 #62
So he condemns far-right whack-jobs and the BOG applauds? BFD. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #188
A few things: Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #191
I'm neutral on Greenwald -- disagree with some things; agree with others. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #192
That's fine. I agree with green footballs on some things and not on others. Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #193
It's easy to agree about Brian Eno... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #194
just like some of greenwald's previous views on immigration and the war on terror disgust me.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #195
Lords knows... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #199
NSA said they never got *any* emails from Snowden Sheepshank May 2014 #18
I believe NBC got it from FOIA request directly Cali_Democrat May 2014 #21
No..it was an NSA release. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #180
The NSA did not say they had no emails, they said they had no email that documented concerns karynnj May 2014 #121
GG trying to keep himself relevant.. like when he "expertly previewed the 2012 election".. Cha May 2014 #28
My dear Cha, you find the most interesting stuff on the internetz. How did I miss that gem? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #32
You find interesting stuff, Tarheel! We can't Cha May 2014 #34
I wish I could rec a response. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #41
Ya just did. :) Cha May 2014 #44
Oh Lawdy~ sheshe2 May 2014 #117
Mahalo she.. and how about that "disenchanted" Greenwald Cha May 2014 #126
Poor poor Greenwald... sheshe2 May 2014 #128
The BOG treats us to thread after thread re: Greenwald... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #187
BENGHAZI!!! OilemFirchen May 2014 #124
Greenwald's such an insipid wizard.. he needs some help for that ODS. Cha May 2014 #127
LOL...the look on Joy Reid's face as Greenwald was rambling on about Benghazi... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #154
GG is his own worst enemy like ES. Have you seen this?.. It's like this guy read my mind! Cha May 2014 #155
Only people who hate Obama and view him as the enemy suggest that Benghazi involves wrongdoing stevenleser Jun 2014 #171
LOL! Definitely wishful thinking Cali_Democrat May 2014 #142
GG's such a loser. Cha May 2014 #145
LMAO! This is what happens when you twist facts to fit theories instead of vice-versa. stevenleser Jun 2014 #169
Ya think! Obama wiped Cha Jun 2014 #170
I wonder if Mr. Greenwald voted in 2012. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #181
omg, solid proof this idiot knows Shit! Whisp Jun 2014 #185
A singularly clueless .. what's a nicer term for Cha Jun 2014 #200
You were, perhaps, expecting consistency from GG? GG's motto: 'If it don't make money, it don't.... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #29
Yawn billhicks76 May 2014 #38
Ok then, see ya! Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #47
It's getting hard to parse all the negs of negs of negs erronis May 2014 #56
You mean like the folks who have pet billionaires? That the kind of "funding" you mean? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #64
I Agree billhicks76 May 2014 #141
I don't see the contradiction. Maedhros May 2014 #45
Bzzzt, blew it on the first sentence. MohRokTah May 2014 #50
GG and ES are Liars.. and we're suppose to "yawn" because their "Fan Club" says so.. Cha May 2014 #49
I always wonder if it's worship of GG and ES or if it's hatred of POB. MohRokTah May 2014 #51
I dunno.. maybe both equally. I do know that Snowden's Lies are nothing to "yawn" about.. Cha May 2014 #84
That's not what Greenwald is saying at all. WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #57
Of course not. Hissyspit May 2014 #67
Well, ProSense May 2014 #70
No, WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #85
Again, ProSense May 2014 #89
No, WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #97
Yes, it is, and ProSense May 2014 #110
"...'red herring' to the larger issue of mass surveillance." WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #125
Duh? And ProSense May 2014 #129
The House voted 303-121 to limit NSA snooping on Americans. WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #131
LOL! ProSense May 2014 #133
Yep, 303-121, ba-by. How many Crap Blogs have brought about... WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #135
LOL! As long as you're happy. n/t ProSense May 2014 #136
The issue became NanceGreggs May 2014 #90
The issue is NSA over-reach... WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #123
Wait, ProSense May 2014 #130
I really don't give a shit, I just enjoy the apoplexy... WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #134
"I'm not convinced he doesn't have evidence. " ProSense May 2014 #137
If you enjoy anyone's 'apoplexy', you may have deeper problems than you imagine. randome May 2014 #138
I can live with that. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #189
Ah, agreement is so much more pleasant than batting our heads against each other! randome Jun 2014 #196
Indeed. And hell, it's Sunday night... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #198
One of the 'theories' making the rounds NanceGreggs May 2014 #156
LOL No, Nance, "gullible" are... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #190
Snowden is the one NanceGreggs May 2014 #153
+1 Of course it's not. woo me with science May 2014 #148
Snowden's Not Credible perdita9 May 2014 #78
Words and language have meaning. quakerboy May 2014 #86
LOL! ProSense May 2014 #93
ROFL!!! Did I just read that? Cali_Democrat May 2014 #100
Pretty much quakerboy May 2014 #164
An entire thread based on this sort of twisting. woo me with science May 2014 #149
It would seem to, certaintly quakerboy May 2014 #165
this "biggest news" yakkity yak.. grasswire Jun 2014 #182
Greenwald is Correct.. KoKo May 2014 #87
The man clearly has a problem remembering what he says from one tweet to the next. ucrdem May 2014 #95
Pulitzer, baby! DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #107
Perfect example. nt ucrdem May 2014 #108
ever heard of an antecedent? DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #120
GG is known for his foul/fowl yap. Stinky Chickenshit. Whisp Jun 2014 #176
Hahahahahahaha!!!! Luminous Animal May 2014 #150
Greenwald's slogan: Whisp May 2014 #151
entertaining thread!! m-lekktor May 2014 #158
You got that right. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #184
The real Story isnt Snowden or Greenwald ellie50 May 2014 #163
Figures... Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #183
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