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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
20. Fantastic - it's the Commies at fault!
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:06 AM
Jun 2014

No, Svoboda's presence in a government is the result of the senior partner party's choice to form a coalition with Svoboda. If this was impossible, there was nothing stopping Fatherland and Yatsenyuk from calling parliamentary elections at a time when the country was still at peace, instead of allowing violence to escalate so that they could implement the EU-IMF economic program. God forbid the people should have gotten to vote, since of course the time before they had elected the other set of kleptocrats.

My focus is not on them "merely existing," so you are engaging in sophistry as usual. My focus is on them being welcomed into the government, given the defense ministry (until they fucked up with their extremism), and allowed to push through measures like the abolition of Russian as a language of the state.

My focus is also on the way you support them, twisting yourself up on behalf of ethnic chauvinism to the point where (given that your preferred government indeed abolished Russian prior to the president's reversal of it) you imply it's a minor matter for U.S. states to enact "English only." Clearly, you think it was better to have this coup government instead of waiting for the next election. You're implying Yatsenyuk, IMF, etc. is something worth fighting for even by these means of destroying the country. Too bad you're not the one there on the ground fighting to help them out.

PS - Those fucking commies, why didn't they vote for a government that included fascists?

BINGO!!!!! Especially your last two paragraphs...... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #1
Thanks. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #2
How can someone be "anti-coup" if they are unable to prove a coup actually happened? nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #4
I think it's unfair to focus on such a small minority. joshcryer Jun 2014 #15
I see you're back to calling it a "coup" even after admitting you have no proof one occurred. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #3
Is Svoboda in the Kiev government? JackRiddler Jun 2014 #5
And that supports your position of a "coup government" how? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #7
I see you're still making excuses for a fascist party. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #6
You clearly have very little understanding how parliamentary procedure works. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #8
Is Svoboda in the Kiev government or not? JackRiddler Jun 2014 #9
Svoboda is a small part of the majority coalition in the Rada. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #12
Importantly, the abstentions let them get voted in. joshcryer Jun 2014 #16
Pedantry. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #17
No. The situation in Crimea was not caused by a stalled bill on the Russian language. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #18
Laughable disinformation. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #19
Your posts are treasure troves for logical fallacies. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #21
Poroshenko has not been inagurated. joshcryer Jun 2014 #10
So you think fascists in the cabinet is nothing. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #11
They were a result of the Communist Party abstaining. joshcryer Jun 2014 #13
Fantastic - it's the Commies at fault! JackRiddler Jun 2014 #20
Excellent post malaise Jun 2014 #14
Another day, another dose of exterminationist rhetoric... JackRiddler Jun 2014 #22
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