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Savannahmann

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23. The Constitution says that's fine

Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:10 AM

Jun 2014

The only limit on Presidential Pardons is impeachment. There is no requirement for arrest, indictment, conviction, or minimum sentence served.

I speak as someone who wishes the President would pardon a lot more people. He has the power of forgiveness, and nothing could be more moral.

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pardon bowe bergdahl. [View all] mopinko Jun 2014 OP

, blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #1

I believe he should be given his due process. Jenoch Jun 2014 #2

As he's not currently facing any charges, it's premature struggle4progress Jun 2014 #3

Agreed, TexasTowelie Jun 2014 #5

not if your a Republican.... Historic NY Jun 2014 #13

No he doesn't. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #20

First he has to be charged with a crime before being tried. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #67

there is nothing to pardon him for JI7 Jun 2014 #4

I agree. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #6

no, i wanna give him the nixon pardon. mopinko Jun 2014 #7

full pardon for anything that comes up mwrguy Jun 2014 #8

For what??????? nt valerief Jun 2014 #9

The NY Times article about his health and condition tonight mentioned TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #10

from what I read of his background, sounds like he simply couldn't handle the war. progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #76

You're going to piss off the conservatives who post on this board alcibiades_mystery Jun 2014 #11

+10000 Don't forget that "wrote" books for the war college on completely unrelated subjects Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #48

I do not think it is in President Obama's best interests Jenoch Jun 2014 #12

eggsactly. that is why i am betting on him to do it. mopinko Jun 2014 #14

Go back and re-read my post and tell me where the word pardon was used. Jenoch Jun 2014 #15

reread my post. mopinko Jun 2014 #16

Why did you mention pardon? Jenoch Jun 2014 #18

I do not think you have read any of what is emerging still nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #43

Is Bergdahl now more Jenoch Jun 2014 #45

My god, you are hard headed nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #47

Get what? Jenoch Jun 2014 #50

That likely the army will put this to bed nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #54

What war crimes did he witness? Jenoch Jun 2014 #74

Read once again the Rolling Stone Article nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #75

What's the matter with you? Jenoch Jun 2014 #80

You need to expand horizons nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #82

It would also play right into the hands of the Repukes customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #83

Absolutely. Well put. vlakitti Jun 2014 #17

Um, shouldn't we at least wait for him to be charged Live and Learn Jun 2014 #19

The Constitution says that's fine Savannahmann Jun 2014 #23

First, Presidential Pardons are an option Savannahmann Jun 2014 #21

Pardon him for what? GoCubsGo Jun 2014 #22

the worst he is accused of mopinko Jun 2014 #26

Yes, if he is actually guilty. GoCubsGo Jun 2014 #29

no, it insinuates, loudly, that his critics are insane and that he deserves our thanks mopinko Jun 2014 #30

pardon him from what? being convicted by the media? spanone Jun 2014 #24

i want the richard nixon pardon mopinko Jun 2014 #25

we should convict the media. spanone Jun 2014 #32

Even if he is charged . . . markpkessinger Jun 2014 #27

well, i am starting a book. mopinko Jun 2014 #31

He grew up in a conservative/libertarian/home schooled Idaho home...so his actions randys1 Jun 2014 #28

I don't think pardoning him is a good idea. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #33

its called time served. mopinko Jun 2014 #38

Average time served for deserters is fourteen months nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #40

He would have to stand trial and be convicted before being pardoned. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #34

nope. sorry, just not correct. mopinko Jun 2014 #37

and i would hope for that, too. mopinko Jun 2014 #39

If he deserted, he belongs in prison. name not needed Jun 2014 #35

Oh christ, I see this everywhere. He's not going TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #36

You of course realize that the average time for deserters these days is 14 months nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #41

Interesting response Caretha Jun 2014 #51

I personally do not think we will get to that point nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #42

that better be the worst case scenario. mopinko Jun 2014 #44

That worst case scenario is what should happen nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #46

yeah, can we also add time served in the hospital recovering? mopinko Jun 2014 #52

If the threads continue and become very real... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #55

see. i just think it is time to head the chairborne off at the pass. mopinko Jun 2014 #56

But a pardon implies admission of guilt nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #57

nixon never admitted guilt. mopinko Jun 2014 #59

Yes it does nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #61

how messed up must the right be to threaten his home town? progressivebydesign Jun 2014 #77

A pardon implies he did something wrong. backscatter712 Jun 2014 #49

no it doesnt mopinko Jun 2014 #53

You need to read what pardons nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #58

an implication is not a conviction. mopinko Jun 2014 #62

I expect the Art 32 to go nowhere nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #63

You are right--it doesn't IMPLY--it STATES. And this guy has not been charged with anything. MADem Jun 2014 #79

Sends a terrible message... Antler Jun 2014 #60

the precedent was set in 1776 mopinko Jun 2014 #64

there were no lives lost..what else ya got? Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #65

While there are conflicting accounts and stories... Antler Jun 2014 #66

i dont expect the truth to come out, ever. without it being muddied at every turn. mopinko Jun 2014 #69

Not all of it I suppose. . Antler Jun 2014 #73

Hell no! Can you imagine a pardon with that first name printed on it? Yuck! randome Jun 2014 #68

and the dead guys that went looking for him, nothing hanging over thier heads but a chunk of granite NM_Birder Jun 2014 #70

Yes, while he was gallivanting through the wildflowers, living large in his Afghan pajamas... MADem Jun 2014 #81

You trust US official reports when they support what you want to hear. NM_Birder Jun 2014 #84

Wow, you're a real charmer. That last sentence of yours says more about you than you realize. MADem Jun 2014 #86

yes I agree, I said it so I underwstand exactly what it says about me, and yes. NM_Birder Jun 2014 #87

That's a political disaster Travelman Jun 2014 #71

For what crime? NCTraveler Jun 2014 #72

WTF? Pardon him for WHAT? He hasn't been CHARGED with anything. MADem Jun 2014 #78

a pardon is a misleading word, perhaps. mopinko Jun 2014 #85