I think you are seeing this through a very tailored lense ... (Reply #12)

In the discussion thread: KRUGMAN: How big a deal is the surprise primary defeat of Representative Eric Cantor? VERY. [View all]

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Fri Jun 13, 2014, 08:38 AM

1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)

12. I think you are seeing this through a very tailored lense ...

A lense that filters out all (political) reality, leaving only your ideological frame to be seen. Cantor's loss wasn't related to any republican rejection of any "oligarchical status quo"; rather, it was a product of VA's Open primary, where Democrats could game the republican primary (the turn-out was about double that of the 2012 (Presidential year) primary - teaparty participation cannot account for the increase in numbers),and a rejection of Cantor the man (his complete failure to maintain a connection to his home district).

Further, a Clinton ticket will not see anything similar for Democrats, other than self-described "real Democrats" loudly casting "tantrum votes" of sitting home, while the Democratic base does what it always does ... vote for the Democratic candidate.

The "real change" that you seek will only come incrementally, with a coalition of "big tent" Democrats pushing out obstructive republicans to enact progressively more progressive legislation.

That is the unvarnished political reality of this United States.

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46 replies	Author	Time	Post
KRUGMAN: How big a deal is the surprise primary defeat of Representative Eric Cantor? VERY. [View all]	kpete	Jun 2014	OP
That's what we were saying.. thanks Krugman.. "Big Deal"	Cha	Jun 2014	#1
+1	Hekate	Jun 2014	#6
Imv, the best way to push them back is show them for what they are..	Cha	Jun 2014	#8
I really think people are looking too much into this	yeoman6987	Jun 2014	#26
In the NC primary, Dr. Teabagger lost to Mr. Establishment...	WorseBeforeBetter	Jun 2014	#42
K&R....	daleanime	Jun 2014	#2
The rejection of Cantor was a rejection of the "status quo". It was a rejection of the	rhett o rick	Jun 2014	#3
I think you are seeing this through a very tailored lense ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2014	#12
There are a number of possible things that affected the vote including those that openly stated	rhett o rick	Jun 2014	#27
You know for tea-partiers ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2014	#32
You know that Brat..	sendero	Jun 2014	#45
No one knows much about Brat ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2014	#46
Open Primary	OLDMDDEM	Jun 2014	#18
This message was self-deleted by its author	amandabeech	Jun 2014	#25
This is the correct answer. nt	woo me with science	Jun 2014	#24
but it is also the embrace or more oligarchy	Johonny	Jun 2014	#29
I hope we both agree that Cantor was big time oligarch-run status quo. Cantor and his ilk	rhett o rick	Jun 2014	#30
Here is the long game:	cheyanne	Jun 2014	#4
The oligarchs that are funding both parties dont have a problem with	rhett o rick	Jun 2014	#31
What's the difference between the Taliban and the Tea Party?	blkmusclmachine	Jun 2014	#5
You disparage the Taliban with that remark	LordGlenconner	Jun 2014	#19
It's got to be a bit more about Cantor's arrogance with his own consituents.	SleeplessinSoCal	Jun 2014	#7
This is a fight between the money	JoeyT	Jun 2014	#9
The turf war has already begun ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2014	#13
Our current crop of GOP/Tea Party shows what happens when crazy zealots get money	SoCalDem	Jun 2014	#15
This Is One Of The Final	Fred Gilmore	Jun 2014	#10
That Fred Gilmore	kpete	Jun 2014	#16
Excellent assessment, Fred! Plus, this picture makes me want to turn around & check MY back!	NBachers	Jun 2014	#28
Agreed, and one more thing...	elzenmahn	Jun 2014	#33
...and another thing....	elzenmahn	Jun 2014	#34
great article! that analysis makes sense to me,	BlancheSplanchnik	Jun 2014	#11
"Republicans mobilize voters with social issues, but invariably turn postelection to serving the 1%.	pampango	Jun 2014	#14
From a file I keep on governing...	Grins	Jun 2014	#17
I hope he's right that it's bad news for the GOP...I really believe he's correct	joeybee12	Jun 2014	#20
Remember this scene from Raiders Of The Lost Ark?	rocktivity	Jun 2014	#21
LOVE it!!!	calimary	Jun 2014	#36
All I know is that if I were the swordsman, I would have wondered why Jones was just standing there.	rocktivity	Jun 2014	#40
For whatever reasons....	AlbertCat	Jun 2014	#22
The Average Voter Already Has an Abysmally Low Opinion of Congress	AndyTiedye	Jun 2014	#37
I've met a few Right Wingers that claim being pro gay marriage is one of THEIR issues....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2014	#23
Good riddance to the Movment Conservative. This cult has	zonkers	Jun 2014	#35
"Think about how quickly the ground has shifted on gay marriage."	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2014	#38
The Republican Party is dying. This is merely Custer's Last Stand	johnlucas	Jun 2014	#39
VERY? Maybe not so much	kg4jxt	Jun 2014	#41
Yup, 65,022.	WorseBeforeBetter	Jun 2014	#43
repukes win by gerrymandering, suppressing votes and stealing elections	Skittles	Jun 2014	#44

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