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woo me with science

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3. Oh really? What here has changed?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jun 2014

Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Handing the internet to corporations? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks?
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.

On the major issues, this remains a Third Way, predatory presidency. On health care, the ACA still guarantees massive profits to insurance company middlemen, and the president just opened a major loophole that will shift costs from insurers to patients. On climate change, the president continues to support drilling, fracking, and the most environmentally predatory "free trade" agreement in the nation's history. And on economic policy, the forthcoming "trade agreements" will destroy jobs and lower wages for over 90 percent of employed Americans.

No, the chocolate ration has not been increased.




I imagine some get influenced by the prevailing "media narrative" and by other Cha Jun 2014 #1
why all the bad press? BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #2
Oh really? What here has changed? woo me with science Jun 2014 #3
So...can't read the article then? jeff47 Jun 2014 #4
I did read the article, and I commented on what he mentioned specifically. woo me with science Jun 2014 #8
The point is people gloss over the big changes jeff47 Jun 2014 #9
That's flatly, absurdly incorrect, Jeff. woo me with science Jun 2014 #14
Yes, VT doesn't exist. jeff47 Jun 2014 #19
Again, lame. woo me with science Jun 2014 #23
Lame is clinging to doom. jeff47 Jun 2014 #24
Sorry Jeff, but the criticisms are valid, and it's important that they be aired. Yes, Obama has ... Scuba Jun 2014 #44
This ProSense Jun 2014 #48
And again, clinging to doom does not fix those problems. jeff47 Jun 2014 #58
I suppose there are members like that. What rankles me .... Scuba Jun 2014 #60
I think it's more important to work to fix it. jeff47 Jun 2014 #63
And if we don't call out the wrongs, we won't know what to fix! Scuba Jun 2014 #78
Yes, I'm arguing that there's a "step 2", and too many stop at "step 1". (nt) jeff47 Jun 2014 #83
Well, I don't think people will get excited about step 2 if they feel they were silenced at step 1. Scuba Jun 2014 #84
The problem is airing feelings does jack shit. jeff47 Jun 2014 #98
Maybe you only aired your feelings, but many of us did much more. Scuba Jun 2014 #101
Perfectly put. riqster Jun 2014 #95
" It's going to take a bit to rebuild what the DLC destroyed." The DLC is still with us but w/o the rhett o rick Jun 2014 #96
Some people covet the struggle LordGlenconner Jun 2014 #65
Why court preventable doom with bad policies?....We're replaying the screw ups of the 90's Armstead Jun 2014 #74
Because sometimes it's the only policy that can pass. jeff47 Jun 2014 #75
I prefer that you'd be right....however, I've seen too mant replays of the same mistakes Armstead Jun 2014 #86
We are at the end of 60 years of incrementalism to the right jeff47 Jun 2014 #100
LOL!!! amandabeech Jun 2014 #93
We tried to fix Death Panels by voting for a presidential candidate who PROMISED a public Doctor_J Jun 2014 #57
60 years of work can not be undone in 1 year. jeff47 Jun 2014 #61
Actually LBJ enacted Medicare, Medicaid, VRA, CRA, and the war on poverty in 3 years Doctor_J Jun 2014 #64
No, he didn't. He was the one to sign the laws. jeff47 Jun 2014 #73
OMG. I suppose fdr just signed social security and the ccc too Doctor_J Jun 2014 #102
Well, he did. jeff47 Jun 2014 #112
Thank you for this... Rockyj Jun 2014 #97
Yeah. Paul Krugman doesn't know what he's talking about. Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #5
Appeals to authority are kind of lame. woo me with science Jun 2014 #6
Why? You'll just dismiss it. Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #7
Well, that's convenient. nt woo me with science Jun 2014 #13
It's pretty clear what your style is... Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #21
Again, talking about me rather than the policies. Focusing on "praising Obama," rather than woo me with science Jun 2014 #37
You continue to make my point... Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #38
No, I didn't say how awful Krugman is. I refuted the points he made with Obama's actual policies. woo me with science Jun 2014 #39
No, I said you were quick to point out how awful Obama is. Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #40
We are witnessing nascent fascism, sustained assault on the very foundations of our Constitution. woo me with science Jun 2014 #42
Excuses excuses... Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #43
That's curious. Why isn't one enough? Scuba Jun 2014 #45
... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2014 #49
I can't think of 1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #77
Me either, but he did go to the trouble of making sure he could if he likes ... Scuba Jun 2014 #81
Well, there you have it. He had reservations about it! Doctor_J Jun 2014 #113
Yes, that makes me feel so much better about it. Scuba Jun 2014 #114
You mean like ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #76
You do realize the American people support most of that list, right? joshcryer Jun 2014 #10
Please post your links showing that Americans support the items on that list. woo me with science Jun 2014 #11
Let's run for Congress, woo. joshcryer Jun 2014 #15
See, it can't be backed up. And it's irrelevant, anyway. woo me with science Jun 2014 #17
No bullying at all. joshcryer Jun 2014 #20
Well, that was familiar. woo me with science Jun 2014 #32
See you in 2016. joshcryer Jun 2014 #35
That's a pathetic post. You should be ashamed. Scuba Jun 2014 #46
I think what ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #80
That's also a pathetic copout. You should be ashamed too. Scuba Jun 2014 #82
no, it's a call to action ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #85
Not everyone can run for office, and such action should not be necessary to have a voice. Scuba Jun 2014 #87
B.S. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #89
Then don't read the threads you don't like. Scuba Jun 2014 #90
I would say the same thing to you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #94
Thx for not being distracted by the ad hominems and the diversions. Vattel Jun 2014 #103
All true, but the trade agreement has not yet been signed, JDPriestly Jun 2014 #26
And their is an acknowledgement in the article that not everything has been rosy and perfect rpannier Jun 2014 #34
Those are band-aids, not successes Demeter Jun 2014 #47
Even if I agreed with your list, what is the alternative, in your mind, on election day randys1 Jun 2014 #51
That's a reason to vote Dem, not to lie about where the country's headed Doctor_J Jun 2014 #54
Who is lying? You mean a politician? randys1 Jun 2014 #55
No, those who claim that the last 6 years have been some sort of sea change in favor of the working Doctor_J Jun 2014 #59
I was asking you to clarify, you didnt have to JUMP on me.. randys1 Jun 2014 #68
Jury results pintobean Jun 2014 #66
+ Several Brazillion! Demeter Jun 2014 #70
Some people just hate the truth (your post was alerted) Oilwellian Jun 2014 #67
All of those issues are complex and have legitimate reasons for both parties supporting them. DCBob Jun 2014 #88
Almost six years and only 20 "negatives"? George II Jun 2014 #110
Nailed it: being influenced, often without realizing it, by the prevailing media narrative freshwest Jun 2014 #12
All the bad press is the result of having a record and no honeymoon for second termers. craigmatic Jun 2014 #16
Well, Krugman has probably been talking to so-called "activist" liberals. You know, Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #18
Wow. I may be mistaken, but I thought Krugman was already firmly UNDER the bus. cui bono Jun 2014 #22
he's allowed to ride on the roof of the bus rpannier Jun 2014 #27
He used to speak with a liberal's perspective Doctor_J Jun 2014 #53
Ooooh nooooo--someone ISN'T trashing the POTUS!! Quick, someone....anyone.... MADem Jun 2014 #25
It's a good article rpannier Jun 2014 #28
At least, for a change, it's a clear-eyed view. MADem Jun 2014 #29
Agreed rpannier Jun 2014 #30
I'm with you steve2470 Jun 2014 #31
I'd like to believe Krugman. He's a smart guy and usually knows what he's talking about. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #33
Krugman's opinion counts for a lot with me. More from the link... Hekate Jun 2014 #36
I was critical of Obama at many points in his first term... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #41
but... but... but... wyldwolf Jun 2014 #50
Please professor, don't go there. Doctor_J Jun 2014 #52
Krugman has always been there Demeter Jun 2014 #72
Sort of. He was against the ACA when Gingrinch tried to get it passed, and when it was Doctor_J Jun 2014 #99
Sure it's the prevailing media narrative frazzled Jun 2014 #115
I agree. After a surpisingly weak first term, Obama has definitely improved in his second term. Vattel Jun 2014 #56
The comments are decidedly less gushing than the article Doctor_J Jun 2014 #62
"old-school liberals" YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #104
public schools, public roads, clean air, clean water, Doctor_J Jun 2014 #107
It's the consequences that concern me Demeter Jun 2014 #69
+1 Good article. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #71
he is pointing right at the ideologues who cannot compromise on their dogma VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #79
you mean people with principles Doctor_J Jun 2014 #108
Today’s politics that works the media polynomial Jun 2014 #91
New Executive Order ProSense Jun 2014 #92
Gracias for the link, PS. Cha Jun 2014 #105
+1 YoungDemCA Jun 2014 #106
Kick! Cha Jun 2014 #109
"...if these achievements were made without Republican support, so what?" Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #111
We got crumbs. F/cking CRUMBS. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #116
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