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socialist_n_TN

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10. Its never "mutual".......
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jun 2014

The owners of any capitalist society will use ANY and ALL methods to keep the gains they've exploited from the people who might want to take it back. That includes everything from fascist death squads to control of the media organs so they can spread lying propaganda.

As a matter of fact, one of the critiques of Chavez when he first came to power was the fact that he didn't immediately smash the capitalists and expropriate their ill-gotten gains. Most revolutionary organizations saw this type of low to high level war coming. Anytime you leave any level of capitalism in place, above the mom and pop shopkeeper level, you wind up with this type of civil war.

As to the collectivistas being armed, when the fascists come for you, you want to be able to defend yourself. Trotsky was always in favor of a well-armed working class militia because he ALSO knew what lengths the bourgeoisie and their allies would go to in order to undermine ANY form of active socialism that threatened their control over society.

“the collectives are synonymous with organization, not violence.” JackRiddler Jun 2014 #1
They will defend the revolution. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #2
Allende as well. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #3
Every democracy needs armed militias hack89 Jun 2014 #4
Every oligarchy needs lies like you tell here. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #5
Not familiar with the Bolivarian Miltia I take it? nt hack89 Jun 2014 #6
Not willing to see who started the violence? JackRiddler Jun 2014 #7
I would guess it was mutual hack89 Jun 2014 #8
Its never "mutual"....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #10
The gross economic mismanagement hack89 Jun 2014 #12
I would actually REJOICE if Maduro was overthrown from the left........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #19
VZ, dependent as they are on oil exports hack89 Jun 2014 #20
An excellent idea. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #13
Let's hope we don't have another repuke president though hack89 Jun 2014 #14
Yeah...but the candidacy of either Warren or Sanders, or Paul will usher in the glorious msanthrope Jun 2014 #16
Will we have to wear berets? hack89 Jun 2014 #17
Berets can be very snappy....with the right jaunty one, you could look great!! nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #18
Very revealing joke. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #21
K & R malaise Jun 2014 #9
It's the same as in Ukraine........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #11
Much worse, I'd say. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #15
self kick JackRiddler Jun 2014 #22
K&R woo me with science Jun 2014 #23
bumpity JackRiddler Jun 2014 #24
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