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pampango

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29. Certainly true that agreements (trade, peace or labor) can be "good or crappy" but
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:08 AM
Jun 2014

the republican accusation was that they were both crappy - "flooding our markets with foreign commodities" - and negotiated secretly - "It secretly has made tariff agreements with our foreign competitors".

Reciprocal Tariff Act of 1934

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act (RTAA) into law in 1934. RTAA gave the president power to negotiate bilateral, reciprocal trade agreements with other countries. This law enabled Roosevelt to liberalize American trade policy around the globe. It is widely credited with ushering in the era of liberal trade policy that persists to this day.

By giving the President the authority to negotiate these deals, the Congress effectively ceded a part of their power (authorized under US Constitution, Article I, Section VIII) to the executive branch.

After the Civil War, Democrats were generally the party of trade liberalization, while Republicans were generally for higher tariffs. This pattern was clear in congressional votes for tariffs from 1860 until 1930. Democrats were the congressional minority in the majority of Congresses between the Civil War and the election of Roosevelt. During their brief stints in the majority, Democrats passed several tariff reduction bills. Examples include the Wilson-Gorman Act of 1894 and the Underwood Tariff Act of 1913. However, subsequent Republican majorities always undid these unilateral tariff reductions.

... the administration decided to take advantage of having a Democratic-controlled Congress and Presidency to push through the RTAA. In 1936 and 1940, the Republican Party ran on a platform of repealing the tariff reductions secured under the RTAA.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Tariff_Act

FDR's RTAA is what gave us "secret trade deals" and 'fast track' for their approval or rejection by Congress.

The complaints against FDR in 1936 were quite similar to the complaints against Obama today even though times and the nature of the agreements has changed.
mmm.. G_j Jun 2014 #1
Elizabeth Warren for president 2016. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #19
Warren was one of only 4 senators to vote against Froman MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #23
Recommend...view! KoKo Jun 2014 #35
Thank you, Sen. Warren and Manny erronis Jun 2014 #71
And Grayson and Sanders too. The Big Three! arcane1 Jun 2014 #38
We are a leader in the race to the bottom. snot Jun 2014 #25
We're winning the race and we're dragging the rest of the industrialized world with us. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #59
Exactly. snot Jun 2014 #90
Threads on this subject tend to sink -- Tiger Beat and sexual disractions are much more interesting Armstead Jun 2014 #2
Indeed they do and it's a shame. pa28 Jun 2014 #6
Too true Armstead dirtydickcheney Jun 2014 #37
Please elaborate more on the oligarchy portion of your post and worry ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #39
Without snark... Armstead Jun 2014 #43
Important post. woo me with science Jun 2014 #44
Exactly. Thank you. They're attempting the obligatory taking over of the world that ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #45
I know, and it annoys me to no end. Doing my part to keep it on top Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #63
kickety noiretextatique Jun 2014 #3
In 1936 Republicans accused FDR of making "secret" trade deals with "our foreign competitors". pampango Jun 2014 #4
Apples and Oranges Armstead Jun 2014 #13
Certainly true that agreements (trade, peace or labor) can be "good or crappy" but pampango Jun 2014 #29
I'm against sevret trade negotiatins in general....However especially now Armstead Jun 2014 #33
yes. nt navarth Jun 2014 #42
kicked and recommended.... mike_c Jun 2014 #5
Great to see this more discussed in the Media...Thanks! KoKo Jun 2014 #7
"the media" – I wish! Unfortunately, we DO have to turn to the Voice of Russia snot Jun 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #8
K&R Howler Jun 2014 #9
YAY! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #10
The New World order ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #11
This. ^^^ CrispyQ Jun 2014 #49
We have to get Senate candidates on the record against this before November. Omaha Steve Jun 2014 #12
Any idea how all of this is being accomplished? NCcoast Jun 2014 #14
Through active Buy-Partisanship Octafish Jun 2014 #16
Actively. See also the TPP. snot Jun 2014 #27
Eough that he doesn't have to support and advance this shit Armstead Jun 2014 #34
I've asked a couple of times, CrispyQ Jun 2014 #51
kk/r 840high Jun 2014 #15
K&R cadaverdog Jun 2014 #17
kicking for visibilty. nt navarth Jun 2014 #18
K&R PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #20
K&R. Overseas Jun 2014 #21
The answer to this is too simple... Moostache Jun 2014 #22
+1 Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2014 #28
Some of us have "opted out". bvar22 Jun 2014 #50
which is why I live in a place that is actually doing everything you mention cali Jun 2014 #32
K&R'd!!! This is work too few other "journalists" are doing. snot Jun 2014 #24
Thank You Julian malaise Jun 2014 #30
Corpocracy rules- with the acquiescence cali Jun 2014 #31
Rec! progressoid Jun 2014 #36
The Oligarchy is attempting to enslave the entire planet. The fact that that is not ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #40
With so many Nations behind this where would I or anyone move to live less misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #41
Maybe, just maybe, Native American tribal lands? n/t factsarenotfair Jun 2014 #53
Seriously, Yes. misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #54
It's hard to argue with that. :( factsarenotfair Jun 2014 #55
Does anyone know when this was ratified? salib Jun 2014 #46
Important to clarify nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #47
No ratification necessary. The top CEO's of the New World Order decide for us all. misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #56
K&R valerief Jun 2014 #48
Oh my... LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #52
What would motivate President Obama, a Constitutional Lawyer, to sell out this Nation in such a way. misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #57
I think there is something to your idea about the selection. The oligarchs seem to recognize that rhett o rick Jun 2014 #62
True. Whomever will assure the forward movement of their superior plan, gets the Presidential Crown. misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #66
In the Netflix series "Scandal" B613 is an organization that is dedicated to keep our Republic free. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #67
Oh yes. You are describing exactly what I personally believe is going on. misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #68
Gen Clapper has no problem lying to Congress, he knows they are powerless to do anything rhett o rick Jun 2014 #69
Enough with the god-damned trade agreements! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #58
Yes. Are the concerns of US Citizens even considered anymore? misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #60
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #61
Seems a very vocal group here is avoiding this thread. Can we assume they support the TPP? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #65
making another list, are we? bettyellen Jun 2014 #70
Well it's good to see you participate in this thread. I didnt think any of your GROUP rhett o rick Jun 2014 #74
No it sucks, but I don't see the point of rehashing it. LOL, that is a bizarre assumption, wow. bettyellen Jun 2014 #76
Those that all seem to relish posting in the dreadful "Hate Snowden" posts seem to be the same ones rhett o rick Jun 2014 #77
I never said anything bad about Snowden- so apparently you profiled me based on faulty info- and bettyellen Jun 2014 #78
I apologize if I made assumptions about you. But I submit you have the irony reversed. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #82
Because I don't like to see the word c***t directed at women here, you pegged me as the enemy. bettyellen Jun 2014 #83
Whoooow. What are you talking about? I am with you all the way. Where did that all come from? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #85
Your behavior- the list making me worthless, the crazy assumptions hurled.... bettyellen Jun 2014 #86
you can apologize for your mistake any time. bettyellen Jun 2014 #81
And what's really funny is that this OP is about TISA, not TPP Number23 Jun 2014 #87
what is really sad is having all these bizarre accusations flung at me! I made it to "our group" bettyellen Jun 2014 #88
Some of us went to the wiki leaks site nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #72
Apparently some believe the policies that the president advocates can never be criticized. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #73
Sadly they are too afraid to stand up for themselves whichever way they stand. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #75
K&R n/t proReality Jun 2014 #64
k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #79
K&R woo me with science Jun 2014 #80
Booga booga! Egnever Jun 2014 #84
kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #89
thank you again wikileaks! eom. wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #91
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