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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
18. Not thoughts. Deeds.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jul 2014

The entire notion that "religious" thought permits someone to hurt someone else is specious nonsense.

All that is going on here is that people with extremely conservative social tastes would like to discriminate, punish, or control other people, based on their gender or sexual orientation or their private conduct.

It is legal and permissible that they want to do that. At least, they are free to want to do those things. They are free to talk about why they think we should do those things.

They are not free to do them, consequence free, because they really really think it's okay.

You do not get to hurt people because you disapprove of them, or dislike their "kind" or their sex lives. If try to, you are being a bad person.

And not the slightest additional ethical weight should be given based on the claim that these hyper-conservative social tastes are claimed to be derived from a religious text. Saying that you think your god agrees with you is infintely arguable even to people who believe in the same god, and utterly meaningless to those who don't believe.

My god says to tell you your god is stupid.

Not helpful.

Bad acts are actually bad. Refusing to comply with a federal healthcare mandate on the basis that you would prefer to limit women's reproductive health choices because you have ideas about how they should be conducting themselves sexually is bad. Saying you think your personal deity agrees with you is nonsense.

When you do bad things, you are a bad person in doing that. Want to be a good person? Don't claim the right to hurt people because of your selfish, ignorant, malfunctioning hateful reasoning.



Whatever happened to 'thinking' instead of 'believing?' leftstreet Jul 2014 #1
Thinking is so passe AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #21
Thinking is often what some people say they do to feel better about what they believe. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #24
If someone's "beliefs" oppress other people, yes, they are evil. MadrasT Jul 2014 #2
+1 theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #6
Yep - I agree. nt cyberswede Jul 2014 #8
exactly. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #14
Exactly LondonReign2 Jul 2014 #16
100% obvious to everyone except apparently the OP. nt tridim Jul 2014 #19
And the seven people who reccomended this thread. nt LisaLynne Jul 2014 #43
+1 redqueen Jul 2014 #25
+1 myrna minx Jul 2014 #29
Right. johnp3907 Jul 2014 #40
I agree Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #3
Yep, it limits our growth to think we are always "right" quinnox Jul 2014 #4
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #11
The OP is quite likely NOT about disagreements amongst Democrats. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #15
I would enjoy a discussion with more people like you fadedrose Jul 2014 #5
So when some religious crank literally calls gay people demonic, they must not be criticized Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #7
When the sole purpose of your beliefs is to Skidmore Jul 2014 #9
Um...I don't know how to tell you this, but Vladimir Putin IS evil. Rex Jul 2014 #10
Those who choose to impose their beliefs on others, by law or force, are evil, full stop. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #12
Well excuuuuuse me, but Republican policies ARE EVIL. ERGO,...... What the hell ELSE would you judge WinkyDink Jul 2014 #13
Is not what they believe, but what they DO that makes them evil NightWatcher Jul 2014 #17
Not thoughts. Deeds. DirkGently Jul 2014 #18
The consequences that stem from these beliefs ARE evil. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #20
BS..about Hobby Lobby...forcing their beliefs on women. madfloridian Jul 2014 #22
It has nothing to do with their beliefs. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #23
"Evil" is an outmoded supernatural concept. Archae Jul 2014 #26
'Evil' is not a supernatural concept. Sorry. It's a word in English meaning 'bad' or pernicious. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #38
the term "evil" is so simplistically stupid. it denies any area of grey; it denies humanity. unblock Jul 2014 #27
When people oppress others under the guise of their religion it is not a good thing Marrah_G Jul 2014 #28
That's not how words work. There is an actual definition for each word. Some people use words Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #39
absolutely Enrique Jul 2014 #30
If the beliefs are disgusting RainDog Jul 2014 #31
So define 'evil'. randome Jul 2014 #32
When your beliefs intrude into arms length of my space, damn right I will demonize. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #33
Shreeding the separation of Church and State is evil get the red out Jul 2014 #34
I don't believe in evil. I believe in people. Iggo Jul 2014 #35
they are not evil because they disagree with me, they are evil because they are evil.... bowens43 Jul 2014 #36
Nope. I don't demonize ANYBODY for their beliefs Shadowflash Jul 2014 #37
I don't believe in God. GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #41
Demonizing people for being oppressors is not a bad thing, contrary to what you posit. Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #42
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