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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
68. I just don't understand American car companies' approach to our market.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jul 2014

I am a compact car person. Medium-zippy four-banger hatchbacks, mostly. Economical to operate, fun; still carry the mulch back from the hardware store. And now I like diesels because of the great mileage and good useable performance.

We refuse to do any of that well. Ford, for example, for years made fleets of absolutely cool, powerful, Focuses (Focci?) for the European market, the last of which was an absolute stunner: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_RS500

But not here. The new Focus, now the same everywhere, is nowhere near as cool. There's a high-power variant, but it's bigger, uglier, louder, and simply less refined. Four doors only. Outrageous color schemes. PlaySkool interior bits. They're making a diesel variant soon, which should get 20% better fuel economy, but have already announced they will never sell it here.

Why?

I get that the American demographic "demands" certain kinds of cars. But I know, for example, that the VW Sportwagen diesels are often the subject of long wait-lists in California. Here, diesels disappear quickly off the lots, account for most of those Sportwagen sales, and hold their value better than other cars.

It's almost like American manufacturers believe the American purchasing public is too crude or too stupid or too ignorant to appreciate small cars, hatchbacks, diesels, or anything else that's understated, smart, or practical for anything other than towing large boats or taking six kids to soccer practice.

Even when dragged into begrudgingly making a hybrid, the adverstising drips with contempt and self-loathing. The Volt -- which now has a large, rabidly enthusiastic following -- was advertised with lingo suggesting it was hard to believe it could be enjoyable, or even a real car. The Caddy ad with the actor playing a rich schmuck was apparently to show that hybrids might be okay if rich schmucks who laugh at Europeans with their "vacations" like them.

Stupid.

It seems like our own manufacturers think we are stupid. But then the import brands come along and stomp them in everything but big trucks and it's supposed to be a mystery?

We can do better.



I keep thinking back to that obnoxious Cadillac commercial that ran during the Winter Olympics Not Me Jul 2014 #1
Yeah, if I had a Cadillac, I would have gotten rid of it over that ad. Coventina Jul 2014 #2
Not your grandpa's caddy anymore LOL snooper2 Jul 2014 #31
Still ugly. Coventina Jul 2014 #32
I am kind of with you on this... Not Me Jul 2014 #36
ITA. That commercial never made any sense to me. Coventina Jul 2014 #38
The commercial didn't seem to create ELR sales. gvstn Jul 2014 #50
Better looking than those boxes and bubbles people drive now days. Fawke Em Jul 2014 #43
I find most current cars to be ugly and boring, actually. Coventina Jul 2014 #44
commericals always influence my thinking too, that is why I'm getting Fiat Abarth :) snooper2 Jul 2014 #30
Yes. Those ads must be at least contributing to the problem kcr Jul 2014 #37
Vomitous smarm, wasn't it? DirkGently Jul 2014 #60
I'd rather see people buying American cars than German or Japanese n2doc Jul 2014 #3
They are ugly liberal N proud Jul 2014 #4
And lincolns are worse n2doc Jul 2014 #7
Are you sure Cadillac are made in America betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #17
That list doesn't appear to cover luxury cars n2doc Jul 2014 #29
I just don't understand American car companies' approach to our market. DirkGently Jul 2014 #68
Should be an OP Coventina Jul 2014 #69
"Boo hoo"? Jenoch Jul 2014 #5
No, but American corporate brands are no friends of American jobs betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #23
I don't see anything positive in cheering the decline of American industry. Atman Jul 2014 #6
Nope, just jealous because I do not own one. You are adding mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #11
I see no cheering. mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #14
I agree Populist_Prole Jul 2014 #58
People who drive luxury cars sneer at American workers. That's why. nt Romulox Jul 2014 #8
My Dad Drove Caddies and Buicks ProfessorGAC Jul 2014 #10
The average BMW/Mercedes driver wouldn't drive a Buick to save his life. It's an image thing. nt Romulox Jul 2014 #13
Buick actually has some nice cars now. Atman Jul 2014 #18
I didn't say Buicks were bad. Just that the average BMW/Mercedes owner isn't cross-shopping them. Romulox Jul 2014 #20
That Makes Room For Exceptions? ProfessorGAC Jul 2014 #21
Did you make this information sweetapogee Jul 2014 #59
Perhaps auto dealers should slap Deadhead stickers on to bolster sales Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #9
Are you still so mad about a television commercial that you cheer against union jobs? Throd Jul 2014 #12
Who is cheering? mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #15
Way to walk it back! Romulox Jul 2014 #16
No walk back. I said what I meant. Your interpretation is wrong. Peace. mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #45
"Boo hoo" usually denotes satisfaction from someone's misfortune. Throd Jul 2014 #19
Not in this case. mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #47
You are. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #42
The content of the article is more important than what I feel. That's why I posted it. Focus on mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #46
Sorry, but when you add editorial comment to the article in your subject line Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #48
WHATEVER. Have it your way. I am moving on to the next post. Ridiculous mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #51
Oh, boo hoo. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #52
Could it be the rampant corporate ageism responsible for eradicating their buying demographic? HughBeaumont Jul 2014 #22
I'm not surprised. CanSocDem Jul 2014 #24
Mercedes LOL, want to see what a $1000 dollar shock looks like? snooper2 Jul 2014 #25
I used to own a BMW...same thing. Atman Jul 2014 #28
I had a little BMW PasadenaTrudy Jul 2014 #41
Product cycle. bluedigger Jul 2014 #26
Except for Tesla, is there much of anything in the "luxury" category that's energy efficient? Silent3 Jul 2014 #27
Lincoln makes hybrids that sell for the same price as the standard engine model Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #35
There are tons of hybrids IronLionZion Jul 2014 #55
I probably should have googled "luxury hybrids"... Silent3 Jul 2014 #62
Fleet sales & leases.... Historic NY Jul 2014 #33
The main reason is that they are too expensive taught_me_patience Jul 2014 #34
Ah, the usual tail-chasing. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #39
Caddies are still ugly PasadenaTrudy Jul 2014 #40
Reading some of the responses brings to mind the old saying "do as I say, not as I do". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #49
But I don't like that COMMERCIAL! nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #53
Question? Is that commercial still in rotation? Anywhere? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #54
I wish it was. I love it. It's on YouTube though. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #56
I wasn't crazy about that commercial either, but I'm an adult. I won't "cut off my nose to spite... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #57
Not spite avoiding a dangerously defective car though, eh? DirkGently Jul 2014 #63
And sales remained steady. Imagine that. I'm not for tearing down US manufacturers, so you should Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #64
Wait. "Sales are good?" How does that bear on bad cars / bad management? DirkGently Jul 2014 #65
Not my job. I don't have to acknowledge shit on a random internet chatboard. Later. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #66
I imagine GM management said something similar DirkGently Jul 2014 #67
Doesn't help Caddies are still so UGLY. DirkGently Jul 2014 #61
Cadillac still has an average transaction price of over $49,000 DJ13 Jul 2014 #70
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