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Why Reverse Racism Isn't Real [View all] PeaceNikki Jul 2014 OP
So these riots were not racist then? Kurska Jul 2014 #1
Click the link and keep reading. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #4
I have no idea where you got the idea there had to be a "system" of racism for it to be racism. Kurska Jul 2014 #5
Then perhaps take a cue from the article and listen and learn. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #6
I don't think your article is a more credible source for the definition of words than the dictionary Kurska Jul 2014 #7
yuck it up. I'm not sure what's so ROFL hilarious about asking people to listen and learn PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #9
Empathy for what? Claiming that certain actions aren't racist, because of skin color of the doer? Kurska Jul 2014 #13
It sure isn't funny... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #104
The is only one "brand" of racism ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #113
I'm sure Native Americans are on your side ryan_cats Jul 2014 #126
I'm pretty sure you think that snark is on point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #132
Native Americans are "people of color" PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #133
I don't think your article is a more credible source for the definition of words than the dictionary AlbertCat Jul 2014 #28
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #64
The author made clear in context that racism was being defined in this piece as institutional Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #90
Very true and Sadly, also, very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #115
Wish I could rec a post wryter2000 Jul 2014 #117
The author made clear in context that racism was being defined in this piece as institutional AlbertCat Jul 2014 #136
Yes you did. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #143
So linguists are a more credible source for a definition ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #53
Well, first off linguists don't write dictionaries. Lexicographers do. Kurska Jul 2014 #61
You are correct, Lexicographers not Linguists ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #67
They don't agree with it, because that isn't how the word is used by vast majority of people. Kurska Jul 2014 #69
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #79
I love how you ignored the entire middle part of my post. Which was the substance of my argument. Kurska Jul 2014 #86
"the vast majority of people do not agree with the definition of racism you're advocating. " alp227 Jul 2014 #105
And, "the vast majority of people" haven't studied ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #118
From here on out war is only defined as a state of conflict... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #123
Jesus - what kind of response is that? el_bryanto Jul 2014 #150
So what is the word, then, for systemic, institutional and pervasive oppression and discrimination Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #11
I'm not sure, but I agree. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #12
Yes I do have a valid point. Here's the thing, if any individual expresses animus Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #16
Yep, racist whites in South Africa are just as reprehensible as racist whites in the USA, Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #37
Black control in South Africa if you can call it that, has existed for a hot minute if that? politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2014 #57
20+ years, actually. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #78
Not to quibble; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #62
Yep, that's my point. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #75
Actually, the refining of definitions ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #59
You note that I posed a question, which went unanswered. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #189
I think I touched on it here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #190
I love this post man, and I commented on it upthread, I am behind the times today.... Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #193
Just as you stated in your OP, everytime one tries to have a conversation about racism politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2014 #41
This one started in the OP... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #108
So how exactly are we white people disadvantaged or oppressed in American society? nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #137
The painfully obvious point... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #161
I just don't like seeing people use "Racism goes both ways!" as an excuse for false equivalencies. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #163
Likes and dislikes don't play into the equation... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #164
What "current bad behavior" would that be? Other than individuals being assholes? nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #165
I would suggest that excusing racist behavior... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #187
I don't see specific examples of that, but I will agree that rudeness and unkindness shouldn't be nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #195
Fascinating verbal gerrymandering. What's it for? DirkGently Jul 2014 #97
Racism is the privileging of one racial group over another. But people of any race can play into it. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #138
No. Racism is racial animus of any kind. Institutional racism DirkGently Jul 2014 #148
The problem is people use false equivalencies to obscure who is actually impacted by racism. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #149
That's true and a fine point. It does not, DirkGently Jul 2014 #151
"the idea that it's really okay for anyone outside the dominant cultural group to BE hateful and nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #152
Anyone can be racist. It serves no purpose to pretend otherwise. DirkGently Jul 2014 #155
"...pretending individual racial animus magically exists only in the dominant group." nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #158
Some folks want to have it both ways AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #154
Actually we do have a word for number 2 Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #177
and please know I'm right there beside you every time I see it happening here PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #14
Oh I know that. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #31
As best I can tell ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #54
I'm wondering along with you the relevance and value of what the author is trying to do here. stevenleser Jul 2014 #162
Nobody is saying the bias can't be bias gollygee Jul 2014 #174
Maybe that is not what they are trying to say, but it has that connotation. It's dismissive. stevenleser Jul 2014 #175
I really wish someone would explore this further ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #185
Such a term would be found by LGBT people of color, women in particular I'd guess Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #192
As I typically defer to the LGBT community on matters of sexuality ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #194
You have a strong case. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #42
I can recognize when someone is looking for a fight rather than an honest discussion. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #43
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #121
And then it just turns into a snark-fest to see who can get the nastiest dig in. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #125
+1000000 Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #179
Yet, liberals claim to value scholarship ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #181
ironclad case is more like it heaven05 Jul 2014 #55
But if the fundamental underlying assumption of the article can't be questioned mythology Jul 2014 #144
Oh Kurska, don't you know that language is meaningless Android3.14 Jul 2014 #27
I have never stated, nor did the article, that "only white people are capable of bigotry" PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #29
"dismissing the systematic and institutional factors of oppressed groups" no one is doing this Kurska Jul 2014 #63
The poorly made point is that only white people are capable of racism... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #109
Actually, You've hit on an important point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #124
According to this JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #34
lol PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #38
I couldn't resist JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #73
Again, why is your definition more valid than the definition found in every single dictionary? n/t Kurska Jul 2014 #52
See post #35 JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #70
Dictionaries only reflect common usage. gollygee Jul 2014 #74
Hee hee. So apropos. n/t JimDandy Jul 2014 #72
Oh great ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #127
Yeppers! JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #145
And the follow-up Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #180
Yep and we need to keep JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #182
The OP article did not 'make that up'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #99
Sociologists define two types of racism AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #156
You hit number 4 Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #173
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #48
Thank you. Corrected. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #50
So, why is your definition of racism better than the one in the dictionary? n/t Kurska Jul 2014 #51
Not MY definition ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #128
You never answered my post up thread. n/t Kurska Jul 2014 #129
Which one? The one where you answered ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #135
No I asked you why the definition was actually better than the previous one. Kurska Jul 2014 #147
The idea that racism is bigotry + institutional/structural power ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #169
This ^^^^^^ jen63 Jul 2014 #146
I think the movie JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #83
Oh look, it's Kurska Scootaloo Jul 2014 #131
Oh boy, that person with the pony avatar Kurska Jul 2014 #188
Are you arguing some kind of "tit for tat," or what? nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #142
Rosenbaum was targeted because of his minority status (Orthodox Jew) REP Jul 2014 #171
It was racism, but not reverse racism Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #186
I agree that there is no such thing as "reverse racism", and never use the term myself. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #2
getting real old heaven05 Jul 2014 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 Jul 2014 #100
Except white people (at least in the U.S.) have never been systematically oppressed or discriminated nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #139
Both racism and sexism are systemic. ananda Jul 2014 #3
externalized by orders from above reddread Jul 2014 #22
"...a backlash projection invented by whites who don't want to look inward..." nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #140
It Really Legitimizes a Point of View On the Road Jul 2014 #8
the article is really addressing institutional racism cali Jul 2014 #21
"White people are mean" is a racist statement. merrily Jul 2014 #10
there is no reverse institutional racism against white people cali Jul 2014 #19
I am assuming that your claim only applies to the USA? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #39
yes. cali Jul 2014 #111
I think you could suggest a number of other countries Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #183
We know who it isnt reddread Jul 2014 #15
Racism and sexism are to "affirmative action". . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2014 #17
exactly. there is no reverse institutional racism cali Jul 2014 #18
Please be careful, Nikki Shemp Howard Jul 2014 #20
I think the larger point isn't the semantics of the word, but the general idea that PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #23
Simply using the term 'reverse racism' is an acknowledgement by the user that Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #24
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #92
People often confuse a racist with malaise Jul 2014 #25
Are the dictionaries wrong? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #33
It's possible JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #35
+1000 heaven05 Jul 2014 #45
Why yes, they are. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #66
Great tumblr post there. gollygee Jul 2014 #76
That's hysterical! JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #80
lol, thanks for that. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #84
haha, that's perfect. nt laundry_queen Jul 2014 #106
WHOA. Noah Webster was "a hardxcore american nationalist and christian"? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #122
Like you'd care. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #130
fucking GREAT!!!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #170
NO - a racist does believe in that doctrine malaise Jul 2014 #56
no, but they're too shallow for a full understanding of society. alp227 Jul 2014 #101
Racism is practiced by racists AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #157
Thank you PeaceNikki for trying to educate people today in a concise, thorough and rationally politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2014 #26
when white male Christians start yelling about "reverse racism" mountain grammy Jul 2014 #30
Reverse racism.... davidthegnome Jul 2014 #32
Tim Wise wrote a great piece about it that he republished during the Trayvon Martin murder PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #36
There's a lot in there, but right here's the answer to claims of reverse racism: Iggo Jul 2014 #40
thank you heaven05 Jul 2014 #44
I truly and honestly strive to be a better ally to PoC, LGBT and the poor. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #46
Of course there is no reverse racism, A Simple Game Jul 2014 #47
one is a racist taking advantage of heaven05 Jul 2014 #60
I think there's a lot of arguing sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #58
rarely unintentional heaven05 Jul 2014 #65
I agree JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #88
I believe racism has enjoyed a resurgence in this country due to the demonization of Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #68
Don't apologize. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #71
Excellent shared experience JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #91
I have NEVER understood how anyone can believe in "reverse racism" ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #77
not really qazplm Jul 2014 #89
If you take racism as a concept ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #110
+1. The term "reverse racism" is absurd (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #120
Same people who believe in the War on Christmas geek tragedy Jul 2014 #172
INSTITUTIONAL Racism is systemic. Individual Racism is, well, individual. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #81
I think the dictionary definition has been addressed well upthread. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #82
You are being pedantic. There is great benefit in pointing out institutional racism is KittyWampus Jul 2014 #87
This is why it seems weird to me to use the word "racist" as a noun at all gollygee Jul 2014 #94
I do not believe all racism has to come from a position of power. Jenoch Jul 2014 #85
PoC - People of Color... Because white people are colorless. gtar100 Jul 2014 #93
what's your preference? are you familiar with the etymology of the phrase? PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #134
I love how people want to redefine racism. area51 Jul 2014 #95
And I dislike the way so many are so stuck on the term/word that that ignore the larger PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #96
This thread is depressing. boston bean Jul 2014 #168
It truly is. I expected some deflection/diversion, but not as much as I see. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #178
I think that the problem is the title. FBaggins Jul 2014 #184
And there's number 4 again in this thread Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #176
Racism exists when someone AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #98
In my experience people with weak arguments tend to debate semantics wcast Jul 2014 #102
You nailed it JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #166
Great quote! You are so right. wcast Jul 2014 #167
She lost it in the second paragraph... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #103
It is a self serving definition AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #114
there's no such thing as "reverse racism" TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #107
+1 (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #112
I can't believe we still have to discuss this wryter2000 Jul 2014 #116
No shit ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #119
+1. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #160
Racism is a individual trait. Takket Jul 2014 #141
There is no "reverse racism" because the reverse of racism isn't someone else being a bigot too. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #153
"I think asians are harder working and smarter than whites" is edgy, cheeky and fun. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #159
Bugs, berries, and boats WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #191
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