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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. i am in the maher thread. purposely offensive to offend then offended when the insulted are offended
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jul 2014

the man does not like women and has clearly come thru on his "jokes" about women.

same with the "political correctness" bullshit.

people know those words are offensive and merely want to use them anyway, then cry pc.

you know. if you want to be an asshole, at least take the accusation of being an asshole.

people want their "free speech" in acceptance. not only do they get to say and do the offensive. those they offend are suppose to shut the fuck up and not decry the offense.

"Political Correctness" is what my mama always called "being polite". eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #1
Exactly ... etherealtruth Jul 2014 #2
True. It's always best and makes things go better. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #105
"Being required", is interesting, in and of itself.. OLDMADAM Jul 2014 #228
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That's a steaming load of bovine excrement. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #133
Yup! Although my grandma Bohunk68 Jul 2014 #216
I saw it used earlier today, here on DU CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #3
ya. patting the guy on the head in commiseration that he had a post hidden seabeyond Jul 2014 #5
That was the one CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #8
Exactly. Also, people are more sensitive today than they were years ago. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #106
Wrong. There are just more categories of people it's not OK to insult n/t eridani Jul 2014 #147
No people are just more sensitive in general. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #189
If your standard of comparison is the Middle Ages, of course we are more sensitive eridani Jul 2014 #192
No actually I'm talking about a couple of generations ago. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #193
Ethnic insults becoming moretaboo is a great thing. Just like talking about sex becoming less taboo eridani Jul 2014 #205
We're talking about language not laws. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #225
Lanugage reflects society and its laws n/t eridani Jul 2014 #231
Not always. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #233
... SidDithers Jul 2014 #223
You are talking about the day when.... Springslips Jul 2014 #217
Actually from their perspective they legitimately thought they were doing the right thing. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #226
Welcome to DU redqueen Jul 2014 #220
You call it "people being more sensitive" Number23 Jul 2014 #230
Exactly. It is people getting fed up and saying they won't just accept it anymore.nt redqueen Jul 2014 #237
people are tired of continually being insulted for no reason but the manner borned. horrible, seabeyond Jul 2014 #179
i am in the maher thread. purposely offensive to offend then offended when the insulted are offended seabeyond Jul 2014 #4
They seem to have no idea what "free speech is a two-way street" really means. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #177
Conservatives love 99% of Political Correctness ieoeja Jul 2014 #6
He actually called that "conservative correctness". redqueen Jul 2014 #11
Both sides of the political spectrum manipulate language to further their agendas Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #32
Totally false equivalence. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #50
Back when, news organizations reported on "Pro Abortion" and "Anti Abortion" politics. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #162
I've been here over a decade, you three months. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #201
Longevity gives DUers license to be rude? Fascinating.... Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #203
You know what schools do in Liberal Chicago at Christmas time? ieoeja Jul 2014 #78
So, to be clear, tolerating a Menorah or a Nativity = smug superiority over the abused? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #166
"I think the ACLU has bigger fish to fry than whether someone wants to have a prayer before a footba greiner3 Jul 2014 #204
Maybe you're just a really lousy writer. ieoeja Jul 2014 #238
If truth be told The Wizard Jul 2014 #79
Doublespeak is a common right wing tactic. hunter Jul 2014 #7
Exactly. Seeing that agenda pushed here grinds my gears. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #13
+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2014 #67
Excellent OP! nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #9
I think Steve Zara pointed out the major flaw with political correctness derby378 Jul 2014 #10
That makes no sense. redqueen Jul 2014 #14
I insist on your freedom to misbehave derby378 Jul 2014 #16
I get what you're saying, but entertainers are a different story. redqueen Jul 2014 #17
"Rant" or not, this is one of your best posts that I've read in a while. You draw the lines nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #182
For the part about "insisting any diversity should be respected", consider this: muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #18
That's not political correctness, nor a result of it, though. redqueen Jul 2014 #19
But we see that an anti-FGM activist did call it 'political correctness' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #23
They can call it whatever they like. It's just used to push an agenda. redqueen Jul 2014 #26
All words are "just used to push an agenda" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #34
I don't think his *goal* is vicious or pernicious. redqueen Jul 2014 #37
+1 nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #185
but a further problem with the example of circumcision is that it is foundational to CTyankee Jul 2014 #95
And ritual nicks on the clitoral hood are part of some other religion, redqueen Jul 2014 #98
well, as I said...I really don't discuss it... CTyankee Jul 2014 #104
The use of the phrase is still misguided. "Political correctness" has become such a generic nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #184
I can understand Zara's point. Maedhros Jul 2014 #125
Yeah, I would think "telling people what to do" is pretty well justified when it comes to mutilation nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #186
But what you just described applies to male circumcision too muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #207
I'm not a fan of male circumcision either, even if it's nowhere near the same thing nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #224
Formalized behavior is simply a layman's term for 'cultural mores' LanternWaste Jul 2014 #15
+1 Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #108
+2 nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #191
tellingly, the same people who bandy that phrase about geek tragedy Jul 2014 #12
They have a name AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #73
True that. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #110
Most of them are Republican/conservative/right-leaning. But not all. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #187
+1,000,000,000 ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #100
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You A Special Little Snowflake, Fella, Ain'tcha? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #151
It's funny how snowflakes are all supposed to be unique... arcane1 Jul 2014 #157
No it is not like that. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #152
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What they don't realize is they have their own, equally arbitrary version of "political correctness" nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #188
Yes. For example, substituting "spring spheres" for "Easter eggs" Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #20
It's an example of made-up bullshit. Propaganda of the conservative, fox news variety. redqueen Jul 2014 #21
Seattle school renames Easter eggs 'Spring Spheres' Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #24
They're not spheres. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #27
Yes, I guess that is a legitimate point. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #48
Is that a point? Sounds like more Christian whining to me. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #55
Why not just use the Fox News link, Nye? redqueen Jul 2014 #30
I just gave the top Google result for that phrase. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #47
That never happened,it's another made up hoax: sufrommich Jul 2014 #36
All these made up conservative talking points really make the rounds. You'd think we could Squinch Jul 2014 #118
What does one bizarre, misguided aberration have to do with not needlessly offending people nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #190
Now we should place gifts under the festive winter shrubbery? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #25
The Shrubbery of the Knights who say Ni? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #56
PC was originally a term bandied about by Chinese Maoists to describe the correct part line. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #22
now you're throwing facts into the discussion. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #28
I thought we were the American Left? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #38
Got a problem with women? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #59
No and no. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #72
Of course not! ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #74
I didn't think so. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #101
I would so hate for there to be misunderstandings between us. nt ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #109
I understood the context of your post Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #120
And what do you think of angry men? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #127
I think angry men do truly awful things Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #149
Are you telling us that you scorn them a lot? I hope not. Squinch Jul 2014 #154
My elder daughter and I exchange scorn Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #167
Aren't you special. And this is something you like to do? Squinch Jul 2014 #168
I enjoy offering to take her to lunch at Twin Peaks Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #169
So she feels that you are objectifying women when you offer to take her to a boob restaurant, and Squinch Jul 2014 #212
I only offer to take her there. We don't actually go. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #218
You manufacture situations in which she is made uncomfortable enough that she feels she needs to Squinch Jul 2014 #221
OK, this is really entertaining and all, but we're going to end this now Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #222
Yes, I have a problem with women Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #121
Yes, many off us on DU have spouses and kids. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #119
True... daleanime Jul 2014 #29
It's a useful phrase. Igel Jul 2014 #31
Thanks. That's a great post! Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #39
Leftist origins, ok ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #40
I'm not even paying attention to posts that ignore context. redqueen Jul 2014 #41
The term has an interesting history ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #46
Yes, dictionaries are a waste of time and space. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #49
You know very well that's not my point. redqueen Jul 2014 #51
I don't know what your point was, though muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #60
I seriously didn't think it was that easy to miss. redqueen Jul 2014 #66
The strange thing is that the pasted 'wall of text' seemed to support your OP muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #75
Now now, no need for that ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #80
Igel is the only one saying "it's a useful ..."; your pasted 'wall of text' is what redqueen muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #81
lol... "attacking" ... are you actually serious with this shit? redqueen Jul 2014 #82
Meh - people who reply to posts in their own threads with 'tl;dr' don't get to complain muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #93
Oh no. You hurt me. You cut me deep. redqueen Jul 2014 #96
I suppose more context is in order ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #84
I don't believe, in fact I'm positive, that's not what she what she was trying to say. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #53
You're Finally RobinA Jul 2014 #58
I own my language, it doesn't own me. I use my language as I please. I recognize no authority. hunter Jul 2014 #111
"The phrase is dead to me. Useless." nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #194
I imagine that the dogmatic who discount the colloquial may even believe 'gentleman' LanternWaste Jul 2014 #113
Whenever I hear someone whining about 'political correctness'... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #33
BOOM! redqueen Jul 2014 #43
+1 BainsBane Jul 2014 #99
+1 million Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #114
^^^^ That. The article says it's about entitlement and disrespect. When it is used to complain Squinch Jul 2014 #122
Correct... Ohio Joe Jul 2014 #143
I always feel "PC" critics ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #35
Yeah. The "first amendment" stuff is a hoot. redqueen Jul 2014 #45
RWers use the term a lot. PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #42
Political correctness = white guy slightly inconvenienced. n/t Orsino Jul 2014 #44
That accounts for the vast majority of the term's use. (nt) Paladin Jul 2014 #69
True. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #115
And thinks his inconvenience trumps any hurt the word or phrase might cause. Squinch Jul 2014 #123
And why the heck not sing "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep" Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #52
Whoa, that leads to this article called "Loony left"! alp227 Jul 2014 #62
Sure does ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #65
How is "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep" in any way "loony"? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #83
Ah the Torygraph... how fitting. redqueen Jul 2014 #87
When I complained about the Rude Pundit calling women the "c" word, Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #92
Yes and at one point in time most would disagree redqueen Jul 2014 #94
How did you miss the point? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #88
That baa baa black sheep thing was a hoax. It never happened. Squinch Jul 2014 #214
So what IS your point in bringing up these stories? alp227 Jul 2014 #97
LOL... like I keep saying... true to form! redqueen Jul 2014 #70
Don't you have any sources that aren't right wing agenda scams? That's two so far in this thread. Squinch Jul 2014 #124
Sorry, I wasn't aware that Wikipedia was a "right-wing agenda scam". Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #128
No, Nye. Wikipedia is fine. In fact, it tells us that the Baa Baa Black Sheep story was a right Squinch Jul 2014 #129
Why are you using trivial bullshit to mock serious concerns about oppressive behavior? nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #195
My observation is that when "political correctness" is brought up in discussion of political issues WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #54
A lot (and by that I mean most) of the over-the-top stuff on tumblr is sarcasm. redqueen Jul 2014 #57
It's certainly possible, thanks to Poe's law, that a given example may be a troll or satire. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #68
Oh sure, there are definitely a few. redqueen Jul 2014 #71
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Misguided, ridiculous people. They should probably be ignored. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #196
Demonization of the words "politically correct" is nothing but brainwashing propaganda Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #61
Political correctness is a terrible thing JoeyT Jul 2014 #63
Lots of DUers were accused of "political correctness" when they objected to Rude Pundit Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #86
If you're making the point that "political correctness" is a largely meaningless phrase, there are nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #197
"vituperative", what does it mean? I had to look it up (my bad). saidsimplesimon Jul 2014 #64
Political Correctness = Smug, greedy, well-fed white people have created a language to conceal Exultant Democracy Jul 2014 #76
None of us is George Carlin. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #89
I notice how rarely anyone quotes his "the male disease" bit. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #90
Yup ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #91
Language is alive subject Jul 2014 #77
Police IT department bans word 'blacklist' in case it is deemed racist Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #85
Some computer terms really are racist mwrguy Jul 2014 #107
I would disagree with that Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #117
Is using the word "seniors" to describe old people politically correct? I'd say so but you won't brewens Jul 2014 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #103
"SHUT UP!", they explained. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #112
The problem is each person has their own definition of PC Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #116
Sure. But there's a time and a place for that sort of thing. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #198
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Aaah poor baby CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #131
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hey buddy a troll is a troll and not deserving of any politeness from anyone CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #135
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Yes, yes I am. 100 percent. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #137
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as I said before, you deserve no politeness from anyone. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #140
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aww poor widdle oppressed cracker man Kali Jul 2014 #144
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bye! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #158
Gee, you wasted no time. Oh, and welcome back! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #159
I love how you folks attempt to act as if the word cracker is vile and hurtful. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #145
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I think all racial epithets are vile and hurtful. PlanetaryOrbit Jul 2014 #170
You A Special Little Snowflake, Fella, Ain'tcha? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #139
Outstanding, as usual. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #148
PC = Plain Courtesy n/t eridani Jul 2014 #141
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So what words, phrases, or thoughts would you ban... NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #155
You tell me - what kind of "politically incorrect" ideas are you thinking of? alp227 Jul 2014 #161
That's really not an answer - more of a swerve. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #172
"not be dismissed out of hand because they are not politically correct" alp227 Jul 2014 #173
You first. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #174
Well, you brought up the idea first, so instead of asking loaded questions why not provide examples alp227 Jul 2014 #175
Uh...yeah. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #176
Callout? Really? alp227 Jul 2014 #178
I agree. secondvariety Jul 2014 #211
Unfortunately the left invented the term Shivering Jemmy Jul 2014 #163
I believe it is used as a phrase to demonise compassion by the Right (wrong?)... uriel1972 Jul 2014 #165
The cited source is wrong. Political correctness originated with communism on point Jul 2014 #171
It's a useful term to describe a kind of lunacy. Bonobo Jul 2014 #180
Call it "lunacy," then. Or "stupidity." Or even "intolerance" if you think that fits. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #199
Sure, I can do that! Bonobo Jul 2014 #200
Right. If political correctness was just being courteous, then the word courteous would be used valerief Jul 2014 #213
One can go overboard in an attempt ... JEFF9K Jul 2014 #181
thats how I view Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #210
Before it was used derisively by the Limbaughs of the world, it was used with 100% earnestness Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #183
Thank you, redqueen... Out of Time Man Jul 2014 #202
''It is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs.'' ~Robert Anton Wilson n/t DeSwiss Jul 2014 #206
Heh Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #209
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This: chervilant Jul 2014 #215
Gee, the trolls really seem to hate this stuff eh? redqueen Jul 2014 #219
+1! Tom Tomorrow echoed your sentiments many years ago RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #227
Excellent, thanks. Much nicer to see this from the left than the hoax stories from the right redqueen Jul 2014 #234
K&R I start to brace myself for a tsunami of stupid every single time I hear someone start Number23 Jul 2014 #229
Yeah, it would be more accurate to have said "it was more common"... redqueen Jul 2014 #235
There Is a Political Corectness of the Right Wolf Frankula Jul 2014 #232
Oh, is it? redqueen Jul 2014 #236
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