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Spider Jerusalem

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64. Not really, no

Fri Jul 18, 2014, 02:50 PM

Jul 2014

I'm in the UK, and guess what? People over here don't pay any attention whatever to US news media. Nor do they in France or Germany. Or for that matter other Western countries like the Netherlands and Belgium and Italy. (Guess what all of these countries have in common, by the way? A state broadcast entity that has a mandate of neutrality and impartiality; if the BBC, France24, Deutsche Welle, RTL, et al are reporting things that are considerably at odds with what Putin's RT is reporting? RT is probably lying.

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As a Russian government owned entity, RT cannot be trusted [View all] MineralMan Jul 2014 OP

Using it as a source is tanamount to using Infowars as a source. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #1

Well, with regard to accuracy when Russia is involved, you're right. MineralMan Jul 2014 #2

That's how I meant it. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #5

Well, Fox comes close. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2014 #49

"When Russia is involved" FBaggins Jul 2014 #54

Yes. Close reading is needed. MineralMan Jul 2014 #56

it's not worth trying to fine-tooth the good RT content from the bad paulkienitz Jul 2014 #60

I read/watch RT News every day as well as other sources WillYourVoteBCounted Jul 2014 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #92

"I do not watch ABC CBS CNN FOX MSNBC because they are all pwned by a few corporations" EX500rider Jul 2014 #93

I was gonna say that, you beat me to it! randys1 Jul 2014 #102

Putin is a one-man war industry paulkienitz Jul 2014 #94

maybe U like NBC better? "NBC Pulled Reporter From Gaza After He Covered Child Deaths" WillYourVoteBCounted Jul 2014 #79

Has anyone here checked into the reporter's well-being from this incident? Hekate Jul 2014 #83

No. He was on with Chris Hayes before he got pulled. cui bono Jul 2014 #117

Well he's back now, according to several recent posts Hekate Jul 2014 #120

And we have this. William769 Jul 2014 #88

Yes, thanks William.. I didn't know that was an OP.. I've been posting that news around Cha Jul 2014 #101

Anytime. William769 Jul 2014 #105

None of them "like".. Cha Jul 2014 #107

RT is their holy grail and we all know it is financed by the Russian Government. William769 Jul 2014 #108

It's like if the only source of news in the US were WhiteHouse.gov and Cha Jul 2014 #109

... William769 Jul 2014 #110

OT.. and you've probably seen this.. but, speaking of big bad Obama.. I just ran across this right Cha Jul 2014 #111

See this DU thread. William769 Jul 2014 #112

Thank you for this, William! "Their president" is an Cha Jul 2014 #114

When their own news achors walk out the door.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #3

why would they use RT as a source re: Ukraine? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #4

Well, I have no idea, but anyone using RT for a source, MineralMan Jul 2014 #9

You know what? Callmecrazy Jul 2014 #103

LOL. Russian "news" outfits will last as long as the govt continues to fund them, saying whatever Hekate Jul 2014 #113

In response to your snark... Callmecrazy Jul 2014 #121

Oh good. Put me on ignore. Hekate Jul 2014 #122

Why? Callmecrazy Jul 2014 #123

You wanted me to bite you. Sounds kind of kinky. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #124

Entertaining! Callmecrazy Jul 2014 #125

I agree with the poster Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #127

Well, it was launched to combat Western propaganda leftstreet Jul 2014 #6

+1 L0oniX Jul 2014 #7

It promotes right wing conspiritorial groups in the U.S. sufrommich Jul 2014 #18

And it should be noted that RT is NOT a reputable news source for LBN here on DU. William769 Jul 2014 #8

True. Thanks for the reminder! MineralMan Jul 2014 #11

That's for LBN OPs - Just for clarity. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #19

Op's is good enough. William769 Jul 2014 #22

will it cramp your style to not be able to post stuff from rt.com? CreekDog Jul 2014 #97

It already has. William769 Jul 2014 #106

Four Legs Good, Two Legs Bad WillYourVoteBCounted Jul 2014 #66

Deal with it. William769 Jul 2014 #67

It sickens me to see people at DU SELF CENSORING WillYourVoteBCounted Jul 2014 #69

And it sickens me that people would would even try to defend that propaganda machine RT William769 Jul 2014 #72

And just in case you just might happen to miss this post, I am linking directly to you William769 Jul 2014 #73

Fact-checking, citing sources, searching out reputable sources: that's not self-censorship Hekate Jul 2014 #80

Absolutely agreed. However, Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #10

Perhaps so. My OP is about RT and news involving Russia. MineralMan Jul 2014 #12

No, that's exactly the wrong approach, and irresponsible. woo me with science Jul 2014 #24

Again, this thread is about RT and its value as a new source MineralMan Jul 2014 #27

Sorry, hall monitor. woo me with science Jul 2014 #29

I find RT to be valuable at times. Igel Jul 2014 #61

That's interesting leftstreet Jul 2014 #65

Also, the BBC falls into that category these days cprise Jul 2014 #44

Wherever there is a conflict of interest, trust in reporting is lost. MineralMan Jul 2014 #45

Then shun Al Jazeera's ME reporting if it suits you cprise Jul 2014 #50

you are 100% correct. BBC owned by gov, protects War Machine WillYourVoteBCounted Jul 2014 #70

Interesting article from the Southern Poverty Law Center: sufrommich Jul 2014 #13

Thanks for that link! MineralMan Jul 2014 #15

You're welcome.nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #20

Everyone should read this^^^^^^^^^^^^ maddezmom Jul 2014 #16

Very informative. herding cats Jul 2014 #23

Excellent link! Spazito Jul 2014 #41

That's really right on and its a shame. It had such potential in the beginning. stevenleser Jul 2014 #48

Speaking of good sources: Southern Poverty Law Center Hekate Jul 2014 #85

... conservaphobe Jul 2014 #14

UKR Govt hasn't been truthful either. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #17

As far as I know, the US is not trying to "win" anything. MineralMan Jul 2014 #21

"Win" means an outcome favorable to the US. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #25

Peace in that area is favorable to the US, which MineralMan Jul 2014 #40

Whenever one side is victorious, peace will result. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #43

The current Ukraine govt was installed w/help of NEO CON Victoria Nuland WillYourVoteBCounted Jul 2014 #74

Yes, I know. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #78

But..... Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #26

50 million, eh? Someone's exaggerating, I do believe. MineralMan Jul 2014 #30

Someone tried to conflate "availability" with "viewership" until they got called on it. Not only... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #36

Propaganda is propaganda, it seems. MineralMan Jul 2014 #38

And still no "link"!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #33

"Why anyone would use RT as a source for anything involving Ukraine is beyond my comprehension". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #28

Does that go for the BBC, DeutscheWeld, NHK, AFP? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #31

Yes, it does, when they report on the activities of MineralMan Jul 2014 #34

Me too. I tend to believe some more than others but I'm always skeptical. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #42

I wouldn't trust either NPR or BBC when it comes to Venezuela cprise Jul 2014 #46

OK. That's your decision. I have no trouble with people MineralMan Jul 2014 #47

As corporate controlled entities, no major US media can be trusted. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #32

This thread is about RT and the Ukraine. MineralMan Jul 2014 #35

The interesting thing about words and reading is PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author conservaphobe Jul 2014 #51

who are you? PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #53

Quality > Quantity nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #96

What does that have to do with the OP? Are you anxious to protect RT or somethin'? NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #71

I am just saying PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #75

RT is owned by the same people who own Gazprom and UAC. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #86

True, but we were propagandized reeeeal good for the Iraq war by our media. Whisp Jul 2014 #37

Still are here smknz Jul 2014 #59

Yesterday cemented the fact it a useless station when they pushed this bull story the rebels didn't hrmjustin Jul 2014 #52

RT propaganda smknz Jul 2014 #57

You need to buy a map, and a dictionary Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #58

Spell check smknz Jul 2014 #62

Not really, no Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #64

I've made that same point on other subjects cprise Jul 2014 #91

The same can be said about our media sources. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #63

Max Keiser: only censored by BBC; never by RT, Press TV, Al Jazeera E WillYourVoteBCounted Jul 2014 #68

When was the last time William K. Black appeared on US television? Octafish Jul 2014 #81

You would think people would have figured this out by now. TY for the reminder. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #76

RT? 90-percent Jul 2014 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #90

When's the last time Russell Tice was on tee vee? Octafish Jul 2014 #95

Rants about corporate media NuclearDem Jul 2014 #84

That should be obvious BainsBane Jul 2014 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #89

how about when they downplayed the anti-gay laws in Russia? CreekDog Jul 2014 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #99

Another Russia Today Anchor Admits Spreading 'Lies' For Putin Cha Jul 2014 #100

Nothing can be trusted. TransitJohn Jul 2014 #104

Oh just a note to mention.. the "RT-USA Haters" OP got Cha Jul 2014 #115

How could someone Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #119

Except for Tham Hartmann's show. n/t cui bono Jul 2014 #116

That news can be neutral and objective is a myth reorg Jul 2014 #118

That may well be true. However, whenever "news" is presented MineralMan Jul 2014 #126

No, all sides are "party to the news itself" here reorg Jul 2014 #128

Agree completely etherealtruth Jul 2014 #129

bottom line is DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #130

Yep, but when you consider the sources touting RT (at least here) Number23 Jul 2014 #131