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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,780 posts)
203. Longevity gives DUers license to be rude? Fascinating....
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:08 AM
Jul 2014

My kids have played "Amazing Grace" and "Ode to Joy" in band and symphony. Our neighborhood did not morph into "The Handmaid's Tale" as a result.

"Political Correctness" is what my mama always called "being polite". eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #1
Exactly ... etherealtruth Jul 2014 #2
True. It's always best and makes things go better. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #105
"Being required", is interesting, in and of itself.. OLDMADAM Jul 2014 #228
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That's a steaming load of bovine excrement. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #133
Yup! Although my grandma Bohunk68 Jul 2014 #216
I saw it used earlier today, here on DU CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #3
ya. patting the guy on the head in commiseration that he had a post hidden seabeyond Jul 2014 #5
That was the one CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #8
Exactly. Also, people are more sensitive today than they were years ago. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #106
Wrong. There are just more categories of people it's not OK to insult n/t eridani Jul 2014 #147
No people are just more sensitive in general. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #189
If your standard of comparison is the Middle Ages, of course we are more sensitive eridani Jul 2014 #192
No actually I'm talking about a couple of generations ago. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #193
Ethnic insults becoming moretaboo is a great thing. Just like talking about sex becoming less taboo eridani Jul 2014 #205
We're talking about language not laws. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #225
Lanugage reflects society and its laws n/t eridani Jul 2014 #231
Not always. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #233
... SidDithers Jul 2014 #223
You are talking about the day when.... Springslips Jul 2014 #217
Actually from their perspective they legitimately thought they were doing the right thing. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #226
Welcome to DU redqueen Jul 2014 #220
You call it "people being more sensitive" Number23 Jul 2014 #230
Exactly. It is people getting fed up and saying they won't just accept it anymore.nt redqueen Jul 2014 #237
people are tired of continually being insulted for no reason but the manner borned. horrible, seabeyond Jul 2014 #179
i am in the maher thread. purposely offensive to offend then offended when the insulted are offended seabeyond Jul 2014 #4
They seem to have no idea what "free speech is a two-way street" really means. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #177
Conservatives love 99% of Political Correctness ieoeja Jul 2014 #6
He actually called that "conservative correctness". redqueen Jul 2014 #11
Both sides of the political spectrum manipulate language to further their agendas Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #32
Totally false equivalence. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #50
Back when, news organizations reported on "Pro Abortion" and "Anti Abortion" politics. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #162
I've been here over a decade, you three months. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #201
Longevity gives DUers license to be rude? Fascinating.... Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #203
You know what schools do in Liberal Chicago at Christmas time? ieoeja Jul 2014 #78
So, to be clear, tolerating a Menorah or a Nativity = smug superiority over the abused? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #166
"I think the ACLU has bigger fish to fry than whether someone wants to have a prayer before a footba greiner3 Jul 2014 #204
Maybe you're just a really lousy writer. ieoeja Jul 2014 #238
If truth be told The Wizard Jul 2014 #79
Doublespeak is a common right wing tactic. hunter Jul 2014 #7
Exactly. Seeing that agenda pushed here grinds my gears. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #13
+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2014 #67
Excellent OP! nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #9
I think Steve Zara pointed out the major flaw with political correctness derby378 Jul 2014 #10
That makes no sense. redqueen Jul 2014 #14
I insist on your freedom to misbehave derby378 Jul 2014 #16
I get what you're saying, but entertainers are a different story. redqueen Jul 2014 #17
"Rant" or not, this is one of your best posts that I've read in a while. You draw the lines nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #182
For the part about "insisting any diversity should be respected", consider this: muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #18
That's not political correctness, nor a result of it, though. redqueen Jul 2014 #19
But we see that an anti-FGM activist did call it 'political correctness' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #23
They can call it whatever they like. It's just used to push an agenda. redqueen Jul 2014 #26
All words are "just used to push an agenda" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #34
I don't think his *goal* is vicious or pernicious. redqueen Jul 2014 #37
+1 nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #185
but a further problem with the example of circumcision is that it is foundational to CTyankee Jul 2014 #95
And ritual nicks on the clitoral hood are part of some other religion, redqueen Jul 2014 #98
well, as I said...I really don't discuss it... CTyankee Jul 2014 #104
The use of the phrase is still misguided. "Political correctness" has become such a generic nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #184
I can understand Zara's point. Maedhros Jul 2014 #125
Yeah, I would think "telling people what to do" is pretty well justified when it comes to mutilation nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #186
But what you just described applies to male circumcision too muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #207
I'm not a fan of male circumcision either, even if it's nowhere near the same thing nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #224
Formalized behavior is simply a layman's term for 'cultural mores' LanternWaste Jul 2014 #15
+1 Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #108
+2 nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #191
tellingly, the same people who bandy that phrase about geek tragedy Jul 2014 #12
They have a name AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #73
True that. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #110
Most of them are Republican/conservative/right-leaning. But not all. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #187
+1,000,000,000 ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #100
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You A Special Little Snowflake, Fella, Ain'tcha? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #151
It's funny how snowflakes are all supposed to be unique... arcane1 Jul 2014 #157
No it is not like that. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #152
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What they don't realize is they have their own, equally arbitrary version of "political correctness" nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #188
Yes. For example, substituting "spring spheres" for "Easter eggs" Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #20
It's an example of made-up bullshit. Propaganda of the conservative, fox news variety. redqueen Jul 2014 #21
Seattle school renames Easter eggs 'Spring Spheres' Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #24
They're not spheres. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #27
Yes, I guess that is a legitimate point. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #48
Is that a point? Sounds like more Christian whining to me. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #55
Why not just use the Fox News link, Nye? redqueen Jul 2014 #30
I just gave the top Google result for that phrase. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #47
That never happened,it's another made up hoax: sufrommich Jul 2014 #36
All these made up conservative talking points really make the rounds. You'd think we could Squinch Jul 2014 #118
What does one bizarre, misguided aberration have to do with not needlessly offending people nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #190
Now we should place gifts under the festive winter shrubbery? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #25
The Shrubbery of the Knights who say Ni? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #56
PC was originally a term bandied about by Chinese Maoists to describe the correct part line. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #22
now you're throwing facts into the discussion. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #28
I thought we were the American Left? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #38
Got a problem with women? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #59
No and no. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #72
Of course not! ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #74
I didn't think so. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #101
I would so hate for there to be misunderstandings between us. nt ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #109
I understood the context of your post Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #120
And what do you think of angry men? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #127
I think angry men do truly awful things Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #149
Are you telling us that you scorn them a lot? I hope not. Squinch Jul 2014 #154
My elder daughter and I exchange scorn Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #167
Aren't you special. And this is something you like to do? Squinch Jul 2014 #168
I enjoy offering to take her to lunch at Twin Peaks Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #169
So she feels that you are objectifying women when you offer to take her to a boob restaurant, and Squinch Jul 2014 #212
I only offer to take her there. We don't actually go. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #218
You manufacture situations in which she is made uncomfortable enough that she feels she needs to Squinch Jul 2014 #221
OK, this is really entertaining and all, but we're going to end this now Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #222
Yes, I have a problem with women Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #121
Yes, many off us on DU have spouses and kids. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #119
True... daleanime Jul 2014 #29
It's a useful phrase. Igel Jul 2014 #31
Thanks. That's a great post! Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #39
Leftist origins, ok ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #40
I'm not even paying attention to posts that ignore context. redqueen Jul 2014 #41
The term has an interesting history ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #46
Yes, dictionaries are a waste of time and space. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #49
You know very well that's not my point. redqueen Jul 2014 #51
I don't know what your point was, though muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #60
I seriously didn't think it was that easy to miss. redqueen Jul 2014 #66
The strange thing is that the pasted 'wall of text' seemed to support your OP muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #75
Now now, no need for that ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #80
Igel is the only one saying "it's a useful ..."; your pasted 'wall of text' is what redqueen muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #81
lol... "attacking" ... are you actually serious with this shit? redqueen Jul 2014 #82
Meh - people who reply to posts in their own threads with 'tl;dr' don't get to complain muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #93
Oh no. You hurt me. You cut me deep. redqueen Jul 2014 #96
I suppose more context is in order ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #84
I don't believe, in fact I'm positive, that's not what she what she was trying to say. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #53
You're Finally RobinA Jul 2014 #58
I own my language, it doesn't own me. I use my language as I please. I recognize no authority. hunter Jul 2014 #111
"The phrase is dead to me. Useless." nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #194
I imagine that the dogmatic who discount the colloquial may even believe 'gentleman' LanternWaste Jul 2014 #113
Whenever I hear someone whining about 'political correctness'... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #33
BOOM! redqueen Jul 2014 #43
+1 BainsBane Jul 2014 #99
+1 million Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #114
^^^^ That. The article says it's about entitlement and disrespect. When it is used to complain Squinch Jul 2014 #122
Correct... Ohio Joe Jul 2014 #143
I always feel "PC" critics ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #35
Yeah. The "first amendment" stuff is a hoot. redqueen Jul 2014 #45
RWers use the term a lot. PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #42
Political correctness = white guy slightly inconvenienced. n/t Orsino Jul 2014 #44
That accounts for the vast majority of the term's use. (nt) Paladin Jul 2014 #69
True. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #115
And thinks his inconvenience trumps any hurt the word or phrase might cause. Squinch Jul 2014 #123
And why the heck not sing "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep" Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #52
Whoa, that leads to this article called "Loony left"! alp227 Jul 2014 #62
Sure does ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #65
How is "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep" in any way "loony"? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #83
Ah the Torygraph... how fitting. redqueen Jul 2014 #87
When I complained about the Rude Pundit calling women the "c" word, Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #92
Yes and at one point in time most would disagree redqueen Jul 2014 #94
How did you miss the point? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #88
That baa baa black sheep thing was a hoax. It never happened. Squinch Jul 2014 #214
So what IS your point in bringing up these stories? alp227 Jul 2014 #97
LOL... like I keep saying... true to form! redqueen Jul 2014 #70
Don't you have any sources that aren't right wing agenda scams? That's two so far in this thread. Squinch Jul 2014 #124
Sorry, I wasn't aware that Wikipedia was a "right-wing agenda scam". Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #128
No, Nye. Wikipedia is fine. In fact, it tells us that the Baa Baa Black Sheep story was a right Squinch Jul 2014 #129
Why are you using trivial bullshit to mock serious concerns about oppressive behavior? nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #195
My observation is that when "political correctness" is brought up in discussion of political issues WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #54
A lot (and by that I mean most) of the over-the-top stuff on tumblr is sarcasm. redqueen Jul 2014 #57
It's certainly possible, thanks to Poe's law, that a given example may be a troll or satire. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #68
Oh sure, there are definitely a few. redqueen Jul 2014 #71
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Misguided, ridiculous people. They should probably be ignored. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #196
Demonization of the words "politically correct" is nothing but brainwashing propaganda Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #61
Political correctness is a terrible thing JoeyT Jul 2014 #63
Lots of DUers were accused of "political correctness" when they objected to Rude Pundit Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #86
If you're making the point that "political correctness" is a largely meaningless phrase, there are nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #197
"vituperative", what does it mean? I had to look it up (my bad). saidsimplesimon Jul 2014 #64
Political Correctness = Smug, greedy, well-fed white people have created a language to conceal Exultant Democracy Jul 2014 #76
None of us is George Carlin. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #89
I notice how rarely anyone quotes his "the male disease" bit. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #90
Yup ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #91
Language is alive subject Jul 2014 #77
Police IT department bans word 'blacklist' in case it is deemed racist Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #85
Some computer terms really are racist mwrguy Jul 2014 #107
I would disagree with that Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #117
Is using the word "seniors" to describe old people politically correct? I'd say so but you won't brewens Jul 2014 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #103
"SHUT UP!", they explained. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #112
The problem is each person has their own definition of PC Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #116
Sure. But there's a time and a place for that sort of thing. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #198
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Aaah poor baby CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #131
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hey buddy a troll is a troll and not deserving of any politeness from anyone CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #135
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Yes, yes I am. 100 percent. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #137
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as I said before, you deserve no politeness from anyone. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #140
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aww poor widdle oppressed cracker man Kali Jul 2014 #144
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bye! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #158
Gee, you wasted no time. Oh, and welcome back! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #159
I love how you folks attempt to act as if the word cracker is vile and hurtful. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #145
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I think all racial epithets are vile and hurtful. PlanetaryOrbit Jul 2014 #170
You A Special Little Snowflake, Fella, Ain'tcha? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #139
Outstanding, as usual. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #148
PC = Plain Courtesy n/t eridani Jul 2014 #141
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So what words, phrases, or thoughts would you ban... NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #155
You tell me - what kind of "politically incorrect" ideas are you thinking of? alp227 Jul 2014 #161
That's really not an answer - more of a swerve. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #172
"not be dismissed out of hand because they are not politically correct" alp227 Jul 2014 #173
You first. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #174
Well, you brought up the idea first, so instead of asking loaded questions why not provide examples alp227 Jul 2014 #175
Uh...yeah. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #176
Callout? Really? alp227 Jul 2014 #178
I agree. secondvariety Jul 2014 #211
Unfortunately the left invented the term Shivering Jemmy Jul 2014 #163
I believe it is used as a phrase to demonise compassion by the Right (wrong?)... uriel1972 Jul 2014 #165
The cited source is wrong. Political correctness originated with communism on point Jul 2014 #171
It's a useful term to describe a kind of lunacy. Bonobo Jul 2014 #180
Call it "lunacy," then. Or "stupidity." Or even "intolerance" if you think that fits. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #199
Sure, I can do that! Bonobo Jul 2014 #200
Right. If political correctness was just being courteous, then the word courteous would be used valerief Jul 2014 #213
One can go overboard in an attempt ... JEFF9K Jul 2014 #181
thats how I view Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #210
Before it was used derisively by the Limbaughs of the world, it was used with 100% earnestness Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #183
Thank you, redqueen... Out of Time Man Jul 2014 #202
''It is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs.'' ~Robert Anton Wilson n/t DeSwiss Jul 2014 #206
Heh Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #209
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This: chervilant Jul 2014 #215
Gee, the trolls really seem to hate this stuff eh? redqueen Jul 2014 #219
+1! Tom Tomorrow echoed your sentiments many years ago RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #227
Excellent, thanks. Much nicer to see this from the left than the hoax stories from the right redqueen Jul 2014 #234
K&R I start to brace myself for a tsunami of stupid every single time I hear someone start Number23 Jul 2014 #229
Yeah, it would be more accurate to have said "it was more common"... redqueen Jul 2014 #235
There Is a Political Corectness of the Right Wolf Frankula Jul 2014 #232
Oh, is it? redqueen Jul 2014 #236
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