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LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
2. This should not be allowed
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 07:02 PM
Jul 2014

If even the top experts on ebola can contract the virus, I don't trust bringing anyone with this back.

what could possibly go wrong with this? nt msongs Jul 2014 #1
Ask me again in a month -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #14
This should not be allowed LittleBlue Jul 2014 #2
So we should put third-world health workers in jeopardy while they treat these patients? msanthrope Jul 2014 #5
Missionaries. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #6
These poor bastards. They are Americans, and we should take care of our own. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #8
They knew the risk when they decided to evangelize their religion. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #9
As an atheist, I get what you are saying. But as an American, I think we have two duties: msanthrope Jul 2014 #16
Our citizens voluntarily went to Liberia and worked with Ebola pateints there. LisaL Jul 2014 #32
so just effing leave them wherever CreekDog Jul 2014 #207
and how you would treat Veterans that contract a contagious virus while in combat? Sheepshank Aug 2014 #288
But in this case Liberia welcomed our citizens to provide medical care for their citizens. pnwmom Jul 2014 #90
You don't see the duty to Liberia????? Perhaps you should look up the history of Liberia. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #111
I don't think we have a particular duty in this situation, not. The doctors involved pnwmom Jul 2014 #115
We have a duty to our American citizens. Should you ever travel overseas, I hope you never face the msanthrope Jul 2014 #120
Do we not have a duty to American citizens that are already here? LisaL Jul 2014 #129
Yes. Can you explain how you are at risk for Ebola? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #136
I have traveled overseas. If I ever contracted Ebola in my travels, I would HOPE the US... MohRokTah Jul 2014 #151
I would hope that in the default situation that these Americans find themselves in, they would. msanthrope Jul 2014 #167
Well, trained medical professionals who understand how Ebola is spread have contracted the disease. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #173
You missed number 4. Jenoch Jul 2014 #189
All three combined includes any permutation of "Shit happens". eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #192
Numbers 1 and 2 do not fit your thoughts. Jenoch Aug 2014 #228
It went airborne. Perhaps the CDC just wants the bodies intact if they cannot treat msanthrope Jul 2014 #204
I doubt it went airborne. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #206
You also missed the possibility that.... Sheepshank Aug 2014 #289
You missed multiple postings by me after it was made clear proper precautions were being taken. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #290
yes...I saw it down thread...too bad you didn't state the correction up thread. Sheepshank Aug 2014 #292
I agree with your findings. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #296
Not to mention there is a vaccine to be tested starting in September....to conclude in January.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #178
But what the CDC is saying is that the reason the disease has been contained to Africa pnwmom Aug 2014 #238
As an American I get what you are saying. But as a human being, I think we have one duty MohRokTah Jul 2014 #150
So because they believe in Jesus they're BAD? XemaSab Jul 2014 #54
No because they evangelize a religion they are rude. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #84
That's for the third world country in question to decide, not you. whathehell Jul 2014 #102
They knew the risks. They contracted a deadly virus. They should never be allowed back in the US. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #153
You seem to be predjudiced against anyone with a religious conviction. Jenoch Aug 2014 #232
No, I'm prejudiced against anybody infected with a virus that has a 90% mortality rate. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #234
Yeah, except the "noble medical workers from Doctors Without Borders" whathehell Aug 2014 #274
Your reding comprehension needs work. Jenoch Aug 2014 #276
It's an interesting position, that has been decided wrong. Jenoch Aug 2014 #239
Yes, but the "risks" be damned, you make it clear it's their being whathehell Aug 2014 #247
So now you can read minds? MohRokTah Aug 2014 #249
No, I can read posts.. whathehell Aug 2014 #270
Apparently, you can't. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #271
BWAHAHAHAHAHA whathehell Aug 2014 #272
I agree. I'm going to get flamed for this... mnhtnbb Aug 2014 #253
Helping Ebola patients in the name of Jesus is going to ruin Africa? XemaSab Jul 2014 #103
Don't let logic and facts get in the way of whatever it is they're peddling. Hekate Jul 2014 #143
No, contractnig Ebola should keep you permanently banned from re-entry into the US. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #152
Even after they recover and they're not contagious? XemaSab Jul 2014 #155
IF they recover and are no longer contagious, yes, they should be allowed in. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #157
There is no way a US citizen can be denied entry back into the United States treestar Aug 2014 #282
My apologies MohRokTah Aug 2014 #283
actually your wrong MikeW Aug 2014 #295
No, I'm not treestar Aug 2014 #299
I feel the same about those who evangelize denial of treatment in the U.S. for U.S. citizens. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #254
Cool, then you can take credit if Ebola starts spreading in the US MohRokTah Aug 2014 #261
Well, sure, and besides, if they've Christians, they can't whathehell Jul 2014 #116
Missionaries YarnAddict Aug 2014 #255
That's your opinion and you're entitlted to it. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #262
Well, thank you, and YarnAddict Aug 2014 #263
People judge other people every moment of every day. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #264
Good to see that you agree with Donald Trump Hugabear Aug 2014 #285
My mind was changed when I found out they were using proper protocols MohRokTah Aug 2014 #287
I'm with you. May the Goddess take them into Her merciful care. I hope that's non-missionary enough Hekate Jul 2014 #92
You are so right. Jenoch Aug 2014 #241
These two went there to help with the Ebola outbreak. Jenoch Jul 2014 #184
I have a major problem with all evangelizing. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #186
What evangelizing? Jenoch Jul 2014 #218
AS missionaries. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #220
"Our ministry is all about Jesus—first, last, and always." eShirl Aug 2014 #229
They also think Jesus will deliver him from the virus. LisaL Aug 2014 #231
So??? Can you imagine the terror and fear they must feel? Are you judging them for clinging to msanthrope Aug 2014 #246
And? joshcryer Aug 2014 #225
They knew the risks and accepted them. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #226
They apparently accepted a flight home, too. joshcryer Aug 2014 #227
I'm with you. jen63 Jul 2014 #11
They're being taken to Emory Hospital. 840high Jul 2014 #196
And if the safety procedures fail? LittleBlue Jul 2014 #15
Well, then we are fucked. Then again, how many flights from those countries have landed here? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #18
We aren't fucked LittleBlue Jul 2014 #19
Should we leave them to die? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #20
We should spare no expense to send them the treatment they need LittleBlue Jul 2014 #23
So what you want is third-world healthcare workers to face the fear of infection, but msanthrope Jul 2014 #24
yes , these countries should be under quarantine. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jul 2014 #31
I want to limit the spread of this virus LittleBlue Jul 2014 #33
And yet, you presume to know more about limiting the spread of the virus than the CDC. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #34
No, but I don't necessarily think it should be their decision alone LittleBlue Jul 2014 #42
And a Liberian doctor died too. LisaL Jul 2014 #44
Yes, that's what I've heard LittleBlue Jul 2014 #46
You have no idea how they got ill...to presume that it will spread in the USA is spreading lies Sheepshank Aug 2014 #291
There are already carriers here. Already. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #49
Is this speculation or has it been verified? LittleBlue Jul 2014 #52
Do the math. I'm serious. Do the simple math. How many flights out of these countries to the US? msanthrope Jul 2014 #57
No, Ebola is different LittleBlue Jul 2014 #64
Okay--let's review here. You brought up the Black Death. The Black Death went airborne--pneumatic msanthrope Jul 2014 #70
From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne LittleBlue Jul 2014 #81
I think this strain went airborne. LisaL Jul 2014 #83
Yeah, I read speculation that it went airborne this time LittleBlue Jul 2014 #93
which is why we need to study it....right away.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #180
false premise Sheepshank Aug 2014 #293
Exactly...and because it has gone airborne, it is probably already here. But that's not a reason to msanthrope Jul 2014 #89
Let's review - the plague is a bacterial disease muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #248
There's every indication it has...but still no reason to panic. Even airborne....its worst form... msanthrope Aug 2014 #258
No, no, no, no it hasn't gone airborne. Please provide a reputable link stating that it has done so. Hugabear Aug 2014 #294
So the CDC is lying when its says there are no cases in the US? pnwmom Jul 2014 #158
No--I think given the contagion period, we should expect that cases are already here. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #163
The CDC says no. They say that patients are only contagious when they are sick, pnwmom Jul 2014 #165
that was before it became possible airborne....now we don't know... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #181
The CDC is sticking to that view -- but I agree that we probably don't really know. pnwmom Jul 2014 #214
Dr. Brantley was taking all the precautions recommended by the CDC. pnwmom Jul 2014 #96
The other two who areadly died were using all kind of precautions as well. LisaL Jul 2014 #99
And this is the same CDC that was just discovered not protecting its smallpox stores. pnwmom Jul 2014 #101
It went airborne. But that's still not a reason to panic. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #105
I'm not. Wondering about precautions isn't panicking. nt pnwmom Jul 2014 #112
I trust the CDC to take the proper precautions. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #114
I trust the CDC less today than I did a month ago. pnwmom Jul 2014 #122
You really think the same people who forgot smallpox in a storage container are working on this? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #127
I really think that all humans are capable of error. pnwmom Jul 2014 #128
Do you really think the CDC doesn't know how he got it? And they don't have a handle msanthrope Jul 2014 #140
Yes, I really think CDC has no idea how he got it. LisaL Jul 2014 #142
There are only two choices. They say they don't know how he got it. pnwmom Jul 2014 #162
Liberians are already facing the threat of infection just from living there. pnwmom Jul 2014 #95
+1. nt clarice Jul 2014 #35
You are very logical Caretha Jul 2014 #137
Yes. They knew the risk and they voluntarily took the risk. morningfog Jul 2014 #183
"This virus kills with such certainty that it remains localized and dies out. " Not True dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #284
not to scare you but tons elehhhhna Jul 2014 #30
There's quite a bit of our military/special forces in various places in Africa, too-- TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #39
It doesn't scare me at all. Ebola is already in the US. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #43
and your proof for this statement is ? Nobel_Twaddle_III Jul 2014 #82
Dude, the Reston Virgina case alone should prove to you just how this virus moves. As to the msanthrope Jul 2014 #86
you thinking it is here, is far different then your speculation. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jul 2014 #106
And the workers? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #108
were propery clothed. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jul 2014 #119
Dr. Brantley's jen63 Jul 2014 #156
Going from the Wikipedia article, 1 worker cut himself while doing a necropsy, and didn't become ill muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #252
You think it's airborne, but nothing has confirmed that. You assume it is here, but morningfog Jul 2014 #194
I doubt if it's airborne. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #202
UTMB Galveston. elehhhhna Aug 2014 #281
The CDC say it isn't -- because the disease is only spread when a person is both pnwmom Jul 2014 #168
The one american who died from it did manage to fly despite the symptoms. LisaL Jul 2014 #193
And it can be transmitted by Aerows Jul 2014 #205
Right. He flew from Liberia to Nigeria, where they took him off the plane. pnwmom Jul 2014 #213
The CDC theory is that this disease has been contained because it isn't contagious pnwmom Jul 2014 #161
Yes, people clearly travel even with the symptoms. LisaL Aug 2014 #236
You have REALLY watched too many sci-fi movies snooper2 Aug 2014 #269
I can't imagine the reasoning behind it. It's a fool's errand..big-time. shraby Jul 2014 #3
right--so the Liberians can put their lives on the line caring for these Americans, but we can't? msanthrope Jul 2014 #7
I usually agree with you, but until someone explains how those doctors caught the virus, ecstatic Jul 2014 #169
You really think they are landing in Hartsfield? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #172
No, but I think healthcare professionals and others who come in contact with him will be ecstatic Jul 2014 #177
These Americans had put their lives on the line to care for Liberians. pnwmom Jul 2014 #171
CDC probably wants to monitor the results of the experimental serum in a more controlled environment davidn3600 Jul 2014 #10
Exactly. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #26
There are *very* few labs capable of handling Ebola, the CDC and USAMRID are two of the few. moriah Aug 2014 #265
Poor, selfless people. jen63 Jul 2014 #4
They got experimental treatment in the works nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #12
Why doesn't somebody gives them that serum while they are in Liberia? LisaL Jul 2014 #36
Oh this going to be a l-4 biological isolation nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #38
From what I read, the woman already got a dose of the serum while in Liberia. LisaL Jul 2014 #41
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #45
Yea, I agree. It seems it mutated and much easiter to transmit. LisaL Jul 2014 #47
Because we already have Ebola carriers here. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #50
And you know that how? LisaL Jul 2014 #73
Answered elsewhere on thread. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #76
no, you did not provide proof you just speculated based on air traffic. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jul 2014 #91
She has provided no cites - it's a guess. nt TBF Jul 2014 #147
They don't. They are talking out of their ass. morningfog Jul 2014 #195
They already gave her the serum, yesterday magical thyme Jul 2014 #179
And the doctor got injected with blood from surviving Ebola patient. LisaL Jul 2014 #203
transfusing blood from recovered patients has been tried before magical thyme Jul 2014 #209
I realize that's what they are hoping for. LisaL Jul 2014 #211
they would have performed a type, screen and x-match prior to the xfusion magical thyme Jul 2014 #216
He was on the computer in the early stages of the disease. LisaL Jul 2014 #221
I was reading that through yesterday magical thyme Aug 2014 #223
Not sure if this is a good idea, but if this thing goes airborne... zappaman Jul 2014 #13
M-O-O-N, that spells Ebola distantearlywarning Jul 2014 #21
nice ... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2014 #37
You just got an evil chuckle out of me XemaSab Jul 2014 #58
Ebola, my life for you!! nt longship Aug 2014 #235
DUzy! moriah Aug 2014 #266
Why can't the CDC build a special isolation/care center on site in Liberia? TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #17
and it could be used for people there also JI7 Jul 2014 #22
Sure--make a big investment in containing the problem in Africa, and TREATING TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #25
considering it's been in africa it seems like something we should have done long time ago JI7 Jul 2014 #27
It's already here. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #51
IMO Not enough people die from Ebola for a serum or vaccine to be profitable for big pharma notadmblnd Jul 2014 #107
Experts: Ebola Vaccine At Least 50 White People Away XemaSab Jul 2014 #118
That occurred to me too notadmblnd Jul 2014 #121
Level 4 labs don't pop up overnight, sadly. moriah Aug 2014 #268
They're already being treated there--the fact that they're not dead yet is TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #273
This is so fucked. RiffRandell Jul 2014 #28
Because all we need for the full happiness is Ebola in the US. LisaL Jul 2014 #29
This is NOT a good idea!!! janlyn Jul 2014 #40
Wow! Some really ugly crap in this thread. MineralMan Jul 2014 #48
Thank you. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #53
You're welcome. MineralMan Jul 2014 #60
Clearly stupidity isn't limited to GOPers. Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #62
Yes, it is. MineralMan Jul 2014 #65
Well that may well be because it is "African viral disease" sheshe2 Jul 2014 #185
Not to mention how many climate change will eventually kill. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #243
Get the duct tape and the plastic sheeting!!!! nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #63
Moronic panic response. MineralMan Jul 2014 #68
And the thing is, it's entirely possible we may have carriers here. But that's why we have an alert msanthrope Jul 2014 #75
Ignorance and unwillingness to learn leads to MineralMan Jul 2014 #78
I dunno. But dying from bleeding out seems like a very inhumane way to die to me. LisaL Jul 2014 #80
You're not going to die from this, LisaL. MineralMan Jul 2014 #88
Well, nice to know you are so confident. LisaL Jul 2014 #100
Knowledge. That's where. MineralMan Jul 2014 #117
How exactly have you been "studying" this outbreak? LisaL Jul 2014 #123
There's tons of information on ebola in the journals. MineralMan Jul 2014 #133
Well, how did the three doctors who used protection got this disease? LisaL Jul 2014 #135
they were all 3 in contact with people outside the hospital magical thyme Jul 2014 #182
I blame Hollywood. Seriously, I loves me a good zombie/biological hazard movie, but msanthrope Jul 2014 #85
Gaaah. I'm planning a visit to the East Coast to see my sis, and unless I start driving now... Hekate Jul 2014 #139
This is how the one American that died got it. LisaL Jul 2014 #146
Good thing my sister lives in upstate New York and not Liberia, then. Yeah? Hekate Jul 2014 #164
He was actively involved jen63 Jul 2014 #166
Considering the doctor himself doesn't know how he got it (he says he took all proper precautions), LisaL Jul 2014 #190
Have you seen the photos jen63 Jul 2014 #201
I saw the medical personnel at the hospital dressed from head to toe pnwmom Aug 2014 #237
You are going to be on the East Coast, Hekate. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #188
Hallo, sheshe Hekate Jul 2014 #222
I will never forget the absurdity and stupidity of that either! nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #244
You're really slamming people Union Scribe Jul 2014 #104
Thanks for noticing. MineralMan Jul 2014 #110
+1000 Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #55
Thanks. Some people are heartlessly selfish. MineralMan Jul 2014 #61
In fairness, you don't live near the area. ecstatic Jul 2014 #67
I don't care how they feel, frankly. MineralMan Jul 2014 #71
The callousness of some in this thread is beyond disgusting. neverforget Jul 2014 #72
Yes. I've made mental notes. MineralMan Jul 2014 #77
Not callous. I am a former nurse who had to undergo monitoring for TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #126
This post at least makes human and scientific sense. The posts hating on missionaries are beyond... Hekate Aug 2014 #224
The part that is scary is that Dr. Brantley was vigilant in taking all the appropriate precautions. pnwmom Jul 2014 #94
Even more stringent precsutions will be taken here. MineralMan Jul 2014 #98
Please don't patronize me. pnwmom Jul 2014 #109
You're awfully confident. Dozens of transportation and healthcare workers ecstatic Jul 2014 #130
Exactly! Skip Intro Jul 2014 #154
+1 DCBob Jul 2014 #131
Give me a break. Skip Intro Jul 2014 #132
Mistakes happen. Bonobo Jul 2014 #145
No quarantine is in place. Planes are arriving MineralMan Jul 2014 #149
Okay, you win. Now I'm more worried about that. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #160
+1000 Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #191
Agree with you and am surprised by the reaction to bringing these 2 missionaries home. kiranon Jul 2014 #217
+1 nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #242
And to think that on another thread regarding Trump's Tweet Sheepshank Aug 2014 #297
We should bring them home gwheezie Jul 2014 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author name not needed Jul 2014 #74
Is the USA all stocked up on opiates and suicide pills? seveneyes Jul 2014 #59
Wow. I go to Emory almost every week ecstatic Jul 2014 #66
I hope the experimental treatment works. redwitch Jul 2014 #69
Word XemaSab Jul 2014 #79
Any encouraging advances in treatment for this wretched virus would be a good thing. redwitch Jul 2014 #87
Two doctors (one from Liberia, one from Sierra Leone) already died from it. LisaL Jul 2014 #97
Are they being brought back because they are dying? milestogo Jul 2014 #113
The bodies of Ebola patients are very infections so they would be burned. LisaL Jul 2014 #125
Maybe its just so their families can have the remains here instead of in Africa. milestogo Jul 2014 #134
As I already explained, the remains are highly infectious. LisaL Jul 2014 #138
I agree, it does not make sense. milestogo Jul 2014 #141
I agree. If death is inevitable, there is no reason to bring them here. Cremate them there. pnwmom Jul 2014 #159
Please do some research - your information is incorrect justamama83 Aug 2014 #251
Who decided this? Who is repsonsible for this idiotic, dangerous call? Who? n/t Skip Intro Jul 2014 #124
Read the names in this thread defending the policy TBF Jul 2014 #148
My concern level for this is super low XemaSab Jul 2014 #144
"My concern level for someone who doesn't even know that they've been exposed hopping on an airplane ecstatic Jul 2014 #174
I'm wondering how they will sanitize the plane so it can be used again after this trip. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #175
I'm not all that concerned about a doctor or nurse spreading it. xmas74 Aug 2014 #240
These are Americans who risked their lives for humanity. mainer Jul 2014 #170
It's been a rough month - TBF Jul 2014 #176
"What if this was your son or daughter? Would you abandon them to die?" MohRokTah Jul 2014 #197
So whenever someone argues only the GOP is full of anti-science jeff47 Jul 2014 #187
I feel like I've warped pack to 1984 during the initial days of the AIDS crisis. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #198
Yeah...and you and I agree on that. Not much else, but on that. msanthrope Jul 2014 #200
yes since that time the news media has gotten worse on any medical issues GusBob Jul 2014 #219
case in point i click out of this thread to see a new OP that claims 3 victims to US GusBob Aug 2014 #230
This thread surprised me. 840high Jul 2014 #199
Every resource should be used to help these heros Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #208
If somebody wants to be a hero, they can volunteer to go down there to help these people. LisaL Jul 2014 #210
Really? Is this what this site has come to? n/t Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #215
So if you become sick in a foreign country... cwydro Aug 2014 #278
Surprise surprise, some of the least compassionate people on DU don't want the health care workers CreekDog Jul 2014 #212
I would bet that the hospitals involved are not requiring people to work with these patients gwheezie Aug 2014 #233
They must be able to contain the virus flamingdem Aug 2014 #245
They have little ability based on a documentary I saw about JCMach1 Aug 2014 #259
They know the current outbreak has taken about 6 months to infect about 1200 people muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #275
Frontline's superbugs at NIH? SMC22307 Aug 2014 #298
I do understand wanting to bring Americans home. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #250
Anybody who has ever worked in a hospital knows that protocols are never followed mnhtnbb Aug 2014 #256
There lies the problem... JCMach1 Aug 2014 #260
Yep, I remember this happening in my area years ago. RiffRandell Aug 2014 #267
This is not the worst thing that could happen YarnAddict Aug 2014 #257
I agree with you gwheezie Aug 2014 #277
I remember when HIV victims were dismissed because they made the "choice" to be gay. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #279
agreed. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #286
I was very nervous when I first heard TBF Aug 2014 #280
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