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In reply to the discussion: Ebola patients, US citizens, are being evacuated to the U.S. from Liberia. [View all]LisaL
(44,973 posts)221. He was on the computer in the early stages of the disease.
From later reports, his condition got worse. Which how it goes with Ebola.
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Ebola patients, US citizens, are being evacuated to the U.S. from Liberia. [View all]
pnwmom
Jul 2014
OP
So we should put third-world health workers in jeopardy while they treat these patients?
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#5
These poor bastards. They are Americans, and we should take care of our own. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#8
As an atheist, I get what you are saying. But as an American, I think we have two duties:
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#16
and how you would treat Veterans that contract a contagious virus while in combat?
Sheepshank
Aug 2014
#288
But in this case Liberia welcomed our citizens to provide medical care for their citizens.
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#90
You don't see the duty to Liberia????? Perhaps you should look up the history of Liberia. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#111
I don't think we have a particular duty in this situation, not. The doctors involved
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#115
We have a duty to our American citizens. Should you ever travel overseas, I hope you never face the
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#120
I have traveled overseas. If I ever contracted Ebola in my travels, I would HOPE the US...
MohRokTah
Jul 2014
#151
I would hope that in the default situation that these Americans find themselves in, they would.
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#167
Well, trained medical professionals who understand how Ebola is spread have contracted the disease.
MohRokTah
Jul 2014
#173
It went airborne. Perhaps the CDC just wants the bodies intact if they cannot treat
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#204
You missed multiple postings by me after it was made clear proper precautions were being taken.
MohRokTah
Aug 2014
#290
yes...I saw it down thread...too bad you didn't state the correction up thread.
Sheepshank
Aug 2014
#292
Not to mention there is a vaccine to be tested starting in September....to conclude in January....
VanillaRhapsody
Jul 2014
#178
But what the CDC is saying is that the reason the disease has been contained to Africa
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#238
As an American I get what you are saying. But as a human being, I think we have one duty
MohRokTah
Jul 2014
#150
They knew the risks. They contracted a deadly virus. They should never be allowed back in the US.
MohRokTah
Jul 2014
#153
No, I'm prejudiced against anybody infected with a virus that has a 90% mortality rate. eom
MohRokTah
Aug 2014
#234
No, contractnig Ebola should keep you permanently banned from re-entry into the US. eom
MohRokTah
Jul 2014
#152
IF they recover and are no longer contagious, yes, they should be allowed in.
MohRokTah
Jul 2014
#157
I feel the same about those who evangelize denial of treatment in the U.S. for U.S. citizens.
LanternWaste
Aug 2014
#254
I'm with you. May the Goddess take them into Her merciful care. I hope that's non-missionary enough
Hekate
Jul 2014
#92
So??? Can you imagine the terror and fear they must feel? Are you judging them for clinging to
msanthrope
Aug 2014
#246
Well, then we are fucked. Then again, how many flights from those countries have landed here? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#18
So what you want is third-world healthcare workers to face the fear of infection, but
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#24
And yet, you presume to know more about limiting the spread of the virus than the CDC. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#34
You have no idea how they got ill...to presume that it will spread in the USA is spreading lies
Sheepshank
Aug 2014
#291
Do the math. I'm serious. Do the simple math. How many flights out of these countries to the US?
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#57
Okay--let's review here. You brought up the Black Death. The Black Death went airborne--pneumatic
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#70
Exactly...and because it has gone airborne, it is probably already here. But that's not a reason to
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#89
There's every indication it has...but still no reason to panic. Even airborne....its worst form...
msanthrope
Aug 2014
#258
No, no, no, no it hasn't gone airborne. Please provide a reputable link stating that it has done so.
Hugabear
Aug 2014
#294
No--I think given the contagion period, we should expect that cases are already here. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#163
The CDC says no. They say that patients are only contagious when they are sick,
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#165
The CDC is sticking to that view -- but I agree that we probably don't really know.
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#214
And this is the same CDC that was just discovered not protecting its smallpox stores.
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#101
You really think the same people who forgot smallpox in a storage container are working on this? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#127
Do you really think the CDC doesn't know how he got it? And they don't have a handle
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#140
"This virus kills with such certainty that it remains localized and dies out. " Not True
dixiegrrrrl
Aug 2014
#284
There's quite a bit of our military/special forces in various places in Africa, too--
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#39
Dude, the Reston Virgina case alone should prove to you just how this virus moves. As to the
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#86
Going from the Wikipedia article, 1 worker cut himself while doing a necropsy, and didn't become ill
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#252
You think it's airborne, but nothing has confirmed that. You assume it is here, but
morningfog
Jul 2014
#194
The CDC say it isn't -- because the disease is only spread when a person is both
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#168
The CDC theory is that this disease has been contained because it isn't contagious
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#161
right--so the Liberians can put their lives on the line caring for these Americans, but we can't?
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#7
I usually agree with you, but until someone explains how those doctors caught the virus,
ecstatic
Jul 2014
#169
No, but I think healthcare professionals and others who come in contact with him will be
ecstatic
Jul 2014
#177
CDC probably wants to monitor the results of the experimental serum in a more controlled environment
davidn3600
Jul 2014
#10
There are *very* few labs capable of handling Ebola, the CDC and USAMRID are two of the few.
moriah
Aug 2014
#265
no, you did not provide proof you just speculated based on air traffic.
Nobel_Twaddle_III
Jul 2014
#91
they would have performed a type, screen and x-match prior to the xfusion
magical thyme
Jul 2014
#216
Why can't the CDC build a special isolation/care center on site in Liberia?
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#17
Sure--make a big investment in containing the problem in Africa, and TREATING
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#25
considering it's been in africa it seems like something we should have done long time ago
JI7
Jul 2014
#27
IMO Not enough people die from Ebola for a serum or vaccine to be profitable for big pharma
notadmblnd
Jul 2014
#107
They're already being treated there--the fact that they're not dead yet is
TwilightGardener
Aug 2014
#273
And the thing is, it's entirely possible we may have carriers here. But that's why we have an alert
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#75
I dunno. But dying from bleeding out seems like a very inhumane way to die to me.
LisaL
Jul 2014
#80
I blame Hollywood. Seriously, I loves me a good zombie/biological hazard movie, but
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#85
Gaaah. I'm planning a visit to the East Coast to see my sis, and unless I start driving now...
Hekate
Jul 2014
#139
Considering the doctor himself doesn't know how he got it (he says he took all proper precautions),
LisaL
Jul 2014
#190
This post at least makes human and scientific sense. The posts hating on missionaries are beyond...
Hekate
Aug 2014
#224
The part that is scary is that Dr. Brantley was vigilant in taking all the appropriate precautions.
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#94
Agree with you and am surprised by the reaction to bringing these 2 missionaries home.
kiranon
Jul 2014
#217
Any encouraging advances in treatment for this wretched virus would be a good thing.
redwitch
Jul 2014
#87
Maybe its just so their families can have the remains here instead of in Africa.
milestogo
Jul 2014
#134
I agree. If death is inevitable, there is no reason to bring them here. Cremate them there.
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#159
Who decided this? Who is repsonsible for this idiotic, dangerous call? Who? n/t
Skip Intro
Jul 2014
#124
"My concern level for someone who doesn't even know that they've been exposed hopping on an airplane
ecstatic
Jul 2014
#174
I'm wondering how they will sanitize the plane so it can be used again after this trip. n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#175
I feel like I've warped pack to 1984 during the initial days of the AIDS crisis.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2014
#198
case in point i click out of this thread to see a new OP that claims 3 victims to US
GusBob
Aug 2014
#230
If somebody wants to be a hero, they can volunteer to go down there to help these people.
LisaL
Jul 2014
#210
Surprise surprise, some of the least compassionate people on DU don't want the health care workers
CreekDog
Jul 2014
#212
I would bet that the hospitals involved are not requiring people to work with these patients
gwheezie
Aug 2014
#233
They know the current outbreak has taken about 6 months to infect about 1200 people
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#275
Anybody who has ever worked in a hospital knows that protocols are never followed
mnhtnbb
Aug 2014
#256
I remember when HIV victims were dismissed because they made the "choice" to be gay.
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2014
#279