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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
45. Yep. Ain't much more to say.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:05 PM
Aug 2014

(umm, but apparently I'm saying it anyway)


Until there is recourse and accountability this state of 'emergency' will not end.

You are on point.

The obsession with property has to end, particularly in *this* context when the life of a young black man is worth nothing, when there is a war against the poor and against minorities and so many people refuse to see that this is SYSTEMIC, it is not an exception. FUCK property. It is becoming so obvious that protecting property is the ultimate purpose of the police. And a human body doesn't count as property unless it is lucky or well-connected.

What is a community supposed to do when there is NO RECOURSE?

All these people who thought getting a black man from the highway patrol on the job would do the trick, a symbolic move, while 2 days later after more bullshit from the local cops and now a patronizing paternalistic 'curfew', man this is so deep and the only fucking silver lining is that people are finally seeing it.

The state of 'emergency' is that the people in power are freaked the fuck out and they don't want to dig their hole any deeper in violence but the only way to do that is to *be straight* about what the fuck is going on. To stop with this nominal symbolic shit and confront the fact that CONDITIONS ARE FUCKING TERRIBLE AND THERE IS A WAR AGAINST THE PEOPLE.

This is not just in Ferguson, MO, this is in NYC and Oakland and Ohio and Hollywood. --MoJo

Damn.


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i dint see 'rioting' on live streams. just citizens exercizing 1A and getting assaulted. KG Aug 2014 #1
There are many edgineered Aug 2014 #2
That's a point where not everyone will agree. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #3
I dont give a rats ass if you dont agree. Even people committed to civil rights know Solomon Aug 2014 #5
We all want the policeman who assassinated Michael Brown brought to justice. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #9
What makes sense is doing whatever it takes to get the motherfucker arrested. Solomon Aug 2014 #13
+1000000 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #21
Civil rights and Justice never come easy in the US. The people know the system is corrupt RKP5637 Aug 2014 #35
The only reason all the marching around with signs, going to jail, and getting the hoses and dogs TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #29
What exactly is it that forced power to negotiate with King at all? Hippo_Tron Aug 2014 #67
So difficult to be reasonable on DU these days. cwydro Aug 2014 #46
I am a veteran of the Civil Rights NOLALady Aug 2014 #28
Agree! This occurs all the time, planted provocateurs. The "system" does not play nicely. That RKP5637 Aug 2014 #37
This malaise Aug 2014 #42
+1 Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #62
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2014 #66
Oh I don't think it waters the message down. It ignites it morningfog Aug 2014 #56
Good point. Property can be replaced. Hoyt Aug 2014 #4
By whom? Evergreen Emerald Aug 2014 #52
It can Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #55
You guys are right, shoot them, they don't matter. Hoyt Aug 2014 #65
Unfortunately, yes. Trust me, your post got looked at and if you hadn't asked the question ... marble falls Nov 2014 #71
People are still derailing threads that way today? I thought they'd learned in earlier threads. freshwest Aug 2014 #6
There is no rioting. This is a fucking POLICE RIOT. alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #7
Yes, exactly, it is a police riot... GReedDiamond Aug 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Aug 2014 #8
You still dont get it do you. Because its not happening to you. There is no way I can express to y Solomon Aug 2014 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Aug 2014 #12
Has the police even taken the statement of the main witness yet? aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #11
Fuck no they haven't talked to fhe witnesses. Solomon Aug 2014 #14
You know even if that's true aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #16
Chief of police to me appears totally incompetent! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Aug 2014 #15
Thankyou. There's your peaceful protest attempt. Solomon Aug 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Aug 2014 #18
This Go Vols Aug 2014 #20
This. So, so much this. Fuck the "turn the other cheek" milquetoast pacifists. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #22
Would that refer to MLK as well? cwydro Aug 2014 #47
You may want to read more about Gandhi Cal Carpenter Aug 2014 #50
Not at all. But I believe that both "moderate" and more radical voices are needed. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #59
You are right to be angry. That is the only recourse that the people had! akbacchus_BC Aug 2014 #23
People riot when they cannot get justice and that is akbacchus_BC Aug 2014 #24
People keep asking "what is the right thing to do?" Solomon Aug 2014 #25
I doubt it would change things mythology Aug 2014 #26
Bullshit. There are eyewitnesses to the shooting Solomon Aug 2014 #39
bullets in his back? seveneyes Aug 2014 #41
In the photo of him on the street there is no blood on the back of his shirt Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #57
There are no bullets in his back that I've seen in the video or pics. cwydro Aug 2014 #48
pretty sure qazplm Aug 2014 #53
I honestly feel that without the rioting, the murder would have been swept under the rug, djean111 Aug 2014 #27
Quite True. NOLALady Aug 2014 #31
Can't talk about that! That ruins the final fall back position of "ONE BAD APPLE!" TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #32
That's another thing the rioting accomplished - we know about the entire bushel of bad apples, djean111 Aug 2014 #33
Absolutely TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #43
Thank you. These people deserve justice Horse with no Name Aug 2014 #30
The people who want justice are NOT the looters. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #34
+1000 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #61
The people that are burning and looting aren't protesters. They are opportunistic criminals. Captain Stern Aug 2014 #36
so says you. anger takes a lot of forms. Solomon Aug 2014 #40
Burners and looters cwydro Aug 2014 #49
I don't presume that all burners and looters are animals. Captain Stern Aug 2014 #51
It does take many forms, including self-destructive ones. Sad, but I understand why it happens. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #63
There is no excuse for the burning and looting. None. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #68
Keeping in mind Martin Luther King, Jr.'s observation that "a riot is VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #44
"Media is a key instrument of subjugation because it determines which acts are respectable nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #60
Yep. Ain't much more to say. Cal Carpenter Aug 2014 #45
Thank you. I'm glad that somebody gets it. Solomon Aug 2014 #54
You are not alone. And thank *you* Cal Carpenter Aug 2014 #58
LOL, "until I hear the next asshole pissing me off", ok tough guy. nt Logical Aug 2014 #64
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #69
mommy, it followed me home, can I keep it? uppityperson Nov 2014 #70
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