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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
59. Depends on if you understand them
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:29 AM
Aug 2014

Causation, correlation, and statistical information are rarely considered in amateur analyses. I say this as a person who has taken a lot of meds that list suicidal ideation\actions as rare potential side effects. Do you know that if a few people report mood improvement or euphoria with new meds, they are instantly scheduled as drugs that may be potentially abused?

I take one called Fycompa that indicates homicide as a rare potential side effect. It's because one child in a clinical trial said he wanted to kill his caretaker.

It's good that they are that cautious, but people need to be more informed about what they read and talk about.

Thanks for the post-mortem, Deuce Bigelow Dr. Gigolo! bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #1
So you don't think it's relevant that the drug he was taking had a side-effect of suicide? tridim Aug 2014 #12
Well, that was certainly a Faux News-way of asking a question. bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #45
Willams was his friend. tridim Aug 2014 #50
I think he has a right to speak of this, same as us. Acting roles are pretty irrelevant. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #40
Obligatory Rob Schneider Da Derp Dee Derp post Hong Kong Cavalier Aug 2014 #2
Derp de der ta tittily tum! NuclearDem Aug 2014 #6
Suicide is also a symptom of depression betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #3
^^^ THIS ^^^ KamaAina Aug 2014 #5
He doesn't betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #10
Thank you Mr. Schneider...... SummerSnow Aug 2014 #4
Rob Schneider is known as one of the nicest, classiest guys in Hollywood. CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #7
Maybe the risk that this presented to someone with depression was outweighed by betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #11
Maybe, but I would not make that choice myself. CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #22
We don't know whether it was caused by the medication betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #23
I understand. murielm99 Aug 2014 #30
thank you! renate Aug 2014 #31
Definitely a nice guy Egnever Aug 2014 #44
Not sure if his degree is in Medicine or Pharmacology lpbk2713 Aug 2014 #8
You think all doctors know of all side-effects? Haha! WinkyDink Aug 2014 #41
Any indication the meds cause depression? LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #9
Isn't "suicidal thoughts" one of the side-effects of Chantix too? arcane1 Aug 2014 #15
Yes there are warnings. fortunately I didn't have those LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #16
I was warned of "intense, vivid dreams" if I slept with a nicotine patch on. I tried it. arcane1 Aug 2014 #17
I really enjoyed patch dreams, but the patch didn't work for me. tridim Aug 2014 #18
Congratulations! I was on the gum for 6 months, and now I'm well into 3 months of nothing arcane1 Aug 2014 #19
It's entirely possible that it was typically contraindicated loyalsister Aug 2014 #49
Of course, and even if Schneider is "all that" bad, he may well be right about this drug whathehell Aug 2014 #55
Still loyalsister Aug 2014 #56
Maybe, but all it really takes is reading the label, whathehell Aug 2014 #57
Depends on if you understand them loyalsister Aug 2014 #59
No talent hack now thinks he's a doctor... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #13
Vermin? Geez did he piss in your wheaties or what? CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #24
No, I'm not suggesting that, FFS... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #29
You're out of line Boreal Aug 2014 #46
Anti-vaxxer, Romney supporter ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #14
So a super genius Lex Aug 2014 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #20
Welcome to DU! KamaAina Aug 2014 #33
I am usually all over "this stuff" ... but, etherealtruth Aug 2014 #25
This is true but I googled it and he is an on the record antivaxxer. n/t betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #26
Oh ... thank you for that info etherealtruth Aug 2014 #27
Probably not an idiot betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #28
Bipolar Disorder. nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #32
One of the side effects is suicide? WTF? Initech Aug 2014 #34
'Suicidal thoughts or actions' is most certainly a listed side effect of many different drugs Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #35
this is a possibility KT2000 Aug 2014 #36
That would also describe depression itself. n/t betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #37
Yes - to prescribe a drug KT2000 Aug 2014 #38
Most drugs used to treat serious illness correlate to suicide risk betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #39
the key here KT2000 Aug 2014 #43
Especially anyone Boreal Aug 2014 #47
IMO what you describe is much worse than just "suicidal thoughts" tridim Aug 2014 #52
yes - that is the point KT2000 Aug 2014 #53
For Robin, may he RIP. LiberalLoner Aug 2014 #42
At least SOME treatments for PD and depression are connected to suicide. And in scholarly journals. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #48
there is an endless list of drugs including most anti-depressants that list suicidal thoughts as a Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #51
Some say KT2000 Aug 2014 #60
because he is an expert MFM008 Aug 2014 #54
ok let's settle it DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #58
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