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Clever way to make a point! pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #1
It certainly makes the contrast impossible to miss! redqueen Aug 2014 #2
The great thing is that it involves others in contributing pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #6
Yep, it really is a great idea. redqueen Aug 2014 #7
. Rex Aug 2014 #18
Those are great! kentauros Aug 2014 #47
I am roaring with laughter, here.... MADem Aug 2014 #130
The hulk made me LOL! Rex Aug 2014 #136
. pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #3
Thanks! redqueen Aug 2014 #9
DU Rec. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #4
I dunno either Tuesday. redqueen Aug 2014 #8
Kick! Heidi Aug 2014 #5
Thank you! redqueen Aug 2014 #10
Kicking, because this crap gets so ridiculous. I particularly like the quote, "Welcome to the Squinch Aug 2014 #11
That quote does sum it up where sexual objectification is concerned. redqueen Aug 2014 #12
Just adding more evidence of progress. redqueen Aug 2014 #13
Guess who agrees that this issue is no big deal redqueen Aug 2014 #14
That's not possible. BainsBane Aug 2014 #17
Yep, it's interesting how those same RW arguments are so popular on this site. redqueen Aug 2014 #22
Like the xtian fundies on YouTube that say PRON IS EVIL! snooper2 Aug 2014 #89
You mean the women who used to be in porn who talk about being abused? redqueen Aug 2014 #95
Yeah, there are a couple of those "converts" who are milking the scene snooper2 Aug 2014 #98
Your lack of compassion is noted. redqueen Aug 2014 #100
You mean for compassion for people like Shelley Lubben the fraud? snooper2 Aug 2014 #106
No. Try reading. Did you find anyone trying to discredit Alexa Cruz as well? redqueen Aug 2014 #108
don't know who they are, but if you go from doing porn for a living snooper2 Aug 2014 #111
No, sexual objectification in comics. You're the one who started talking about porn. redqueen Aug 2014 #112
You brought up RW arguments, In post #89 I brought up fundies/PRON snooper2 Aug 2014 #114
You mean the one who had this to say about our president? opiate69 Aug 2014 #102
Nope. She's just one of many. There's a link above. Try reading. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #107
k&r Starry Messenger Aug 2014 #15
Thank you. redqueen Aug 2014 #25
Thank you for holding down the fort -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2014 #16
I understand completely. redqueen Aug 2014 #23
Checked them out -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2014 #24
Who is Hawkeye? BainsBane Aug 2014 #19
A long time Avenger character Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #20
One of the Avengers redqueen Aug 2014 #21
If you've seen the Avengers, it's this guy: BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #57
So nobody in the links you provided know anything about comics. Iron Man Aug 2014 #26
And the "reversed" Hawkeye/Black Widow cover hifiguy Aug 2014 #27
You guys will find no disagreement with your views at Breitbart. redqueen Aug 2014 #28
You were shown to be wrong in the other thread about comics. Iron Man Aug 2014 #29
Seriously, I do not find the transposition of hifiguy Aug 2014 #30
And you'll find no disagreement with yours here: opiate69 Aug 2014 #31
No, those links say nothing about the Spider Woman cover. redqueen Aug 2014 #32
*Squawk!* Derail!! Derail!!! Derail!!!! opiate69 Aug 2014 #34
Jury results. Inkfreak Aug 2014 #36
lmao. Thanks opiate69 Aug 2014 #37
The person dodging the issue in this thread is you. Iron Man Aug 2014 #40
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. PragmaticLiberal Aug 2014 #38
How can you say it looks perfectly normal, when Black Widow's spine is severed? KitSileya Aug 2014 #122
As I noted elsewhere, the first thing I thought of when seeing hifiguy Aug 2014 #123
Oh well, I guess none are so blind as those who will not see. n/t KitSileya Aug 2014 #124
The very fact that someone who is a veteran reader of comic books hifiguy Aug 2014 #126
It isn't subliminal, it is very explicit. KitSileya Aug 2014 #128
Mocking Rob Liefeld's impossible anatomy hifiguy Aug 2014 #131
Shall I take it as read that you agree that the poses of the women are anatomically impossible? KitSileya Aug 2014 #132
I will. Because anatomically impossible poses hifiguy Aug 2014 #140
The drawings are done by and for sexually immature males Warpy Aug 2014 #33
Wow. Iron Man Aug 2014 #39
Uh, I hate to be the first one to tell you Warpy Aug 2014 #41
Comic books are porn? Iron Man Aug 2014 #43
Yeah, really. Marr Aug 2014 #46
You know, those of us who read comics are "sexually immature men". Iron Man Aug 2014 #48
ALWAYS. 100% of the time. hifiguy Aug 2014 #110
Comics Alliance - people who make their living writing about comics - have pointed out a lot el_bryanto Aug 2014 #72
Nobody here knows what they're talking about when it comes to comics Iron Man Aug 2014 #86
I read comics as well el_bryanto Aug 2014 #90
DURec leftstreet Aug 2014 #35
I've been a comics fan since I was kid, and I'd be the first to admit Marr Aug 2014 #42
Huge rec on Saga Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #45
Tend to be? Why the watering down? Progressive fans state it plainly: redqueen Aug 2014 #49
Just curious, but do you read any? Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #50
My favorite is The Tick. I used to go to Comic Conventions in my teens and twenties. redqueen Aug 2014 #51
Love the Tick Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #52
Ben Edlund? redqueen Aug 2014 #53
Yup Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #59
SPOOOOOON! redqueen Aug 2014 #60
Yep! Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #62
Of course. redqueen Aug 2014 #64
I said "tend to be" because that accurately describes the situation, in my view. Marr Aug 2014 #77
Why are you claiming I don't read them? redqueen Aug 2014 #85
Do you? Marr Aug 2014 #88
Is it your implication that unless I continuously purchase comics I can't criticize redqueen Aug 2014 #92
Anyone making such sweeping condemnations should know what they're talking about, yes. Marr Aug 2014 #99
"Insult." Love that framing. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #101
I read them ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #125
Strange. Marr Aug 2014 #129
What's even stranger is the expectation that she should Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #133
Of course she should. Marr Aug 2014 #137
What I disagree with is anyone trying to have this conversation with you in particular. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #139
My entire position is that redqueen's accusations have some merit... Marr Aug 2014 #141
Aw, you went and hurt my feelings. ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #134
I actually deleted that retort because it was rude. Marr Aug 2014 #138
All you would have to do is look at the Marvel DC solicitations for any given month el_bryanto Aug 2014 #109
Which is why there are so many non-Marvel, non-DC titles out there these days. hifiguy Aug 2014 #113
That's true - but DC and Marvel are still the face of the industry el_bryanto Aug 2014 #115
I began here by acknowledging that such depictions are still present. Marr Aug 2014 #127
Let us be clear: Imaginary people with superpowers are important because so many young people AngryAmish Aug 2014 #44
Comic books reflect what teenage boys want to see LittleBlue Aug 2014 #54
There are tons of progressive voices on fan sites that you can use to educate yourself. redqueen Aug 2014 #55
He dislikes comic books, like you LittleBlue Aug 2014 #58
I referred to his view of SEXUAL OBJECTIFICATION, not comic books. redqueen Aug 2014 #63
A bad argument Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #61
And if those people prefer comic books the way they are LittleBlue Aug 2014 #65
Then they'll get them. Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #68
Agreed. It happened in Japan LittleBlue Aug 2014 #70
Such a different market there Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #73
That's too bad. Marr Aug 2014 #93
Definitely! Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #94
Oh man, that's too bad. Marr Aug 2014 #104
Yup! Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #105
I don't think anybody is talking about force-feeding anybody anything. LisaLynne Aug 2014 #74
Exactly Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #76
You don't think that criticism will impact the freedom of the artist? LittleBlue Aug 2014 #80
Artists aren't and shouldn't be criticized? nt LisaLynne Aug 2014 #81
Big difference between criticism LittleBlue Aug 2014 #82
The artists have a right to continue to portray women in that manner and I ... LisaLynne Aug 2014 #83
Of course you do. Just recognize the difference in these two arguments LittleBlue Aug 2014 #84
As does every thinking person. hifiguy Aug 2014 #91
The age and gender of comic book readers edhopper Aug 2014 #66
Then it looks like LittleBlue Aug 2014 #67
Most likely edhopper Aug 2014 #69
But would that be different if comics were different? LisaLynne Aug 2014 #71
It's instructive to look elsewhere for that to some degree Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #75
I think that's true and ... LisaLynne Aug 2014 #78
There are many comics that appeal to edhopper Aug 2014 #87
Comics aren't just Marvel and DC superhero books anymore hifiguy Aug 2014 #97
Yes this edhopper Aug 2014 #103
This is apropos to this thread edhopper Aug 2014 #117
K&R G_j Aug 2014 #56
For those looking to talk a little more about comics Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #79
fyi = Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #96
So were the pictures from The Hawkeye Initiative supposed to make me feel uncomfortable? hughee99 Aug 2014 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #118
Some of the poses are kinda dopey hifiguy Aug 2014 #119
And actually, in the very first picture... opiate69 Aug 2014 #120
Very true. hifiguy Aug 2014 #121
Apparently, yes ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2014 #135
I get that I don't understand the "background radiation" of a girl or woman's life, hughee99 Aug 2014 #142
It shouldn't go unnoticed that they used the fat bald neckbeard comic book guy stereotype.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2014 #143
I think what they were going for is ridiculous justiceischeap Aug 2014 #144
In the Hawkeye/Black Widow, I didn't think either the original or the redone version hughee99 Aug 2014 #145
Fail Ilpavision Aug 2014 #146
mark to read later uppityperson Aug 2014 #147
K&R Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #148
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