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cui bono

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80. Right. But why is the economy so poor?

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 07:21 PM

Sep 2014

I don't mean it so directly as I think you understood me to say.

I mean that overall corporate greed, by most of the biggest ones, is lessening our quality of life in this country as a whole. You would be able to charge a reasonable amount if people could afford it. Those people could afford it if they were able to get a decent wage. A lot of people work for a terrible wage at places owned by big corporations.

Those corporations and their CEOs don't pay their fair share of taxes so the working people pay a lot more in taxes than they should have to. Smaller businesses have to pay for employees health care when that should be taken care of by a single-payer system.

It all trickles down. Trickle down theory does work, just not in the way the GOP told us it did.

I'm not blaming small businesses, I'm looking at the big picture. We need a major overhaul in how this country operates and I don't see that happening any time soon. If it were going to happen it would've happened when a Dem became president after the disaster known as GWB, but that Dem chose to go along to get along and I don't know when we'll have that kind of enthusiasm for change again.

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I Am Pissed Off Today [View all] Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 OP

Yep. That's today's "middle class" wage. progressoid Sep 2014 #1

For someone with a college degree in science? n/t Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #47

Yea liberalmike27 Sep 2014 #70

Yep! Awknid Sep 2014 #76

I work for a blood center and that's about what we pay phlebotomists. I don't think a rookie just brewens Sep 2014 #2

I donate platelets every 3 - 4 weeks Skittles Sep 2014 #13

I donate platelets too. They make it convenient for employees, sometimes letting us do brewens Sep 2014 #20

49 galllons! Skittles Sep 2014 #24

Good going. If you're doing platelets, you won't get anyone very green. At least at my center, brewens Sep 2014 #25

a couple of decades ago I was a regular blood donor Skittles Sep 2014 #44

At our center, we have the edonor chairs. They are set up with a PC, screen and keyboard on a boom brewens Sep 2014 #52

I watch DVDs when I give Skittles Sep 2014 #75

The Bachelor's degree is the new High School Diploma yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #3

Let's hope they get no responses. Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #4

yeah its better people should be unemployed instead of taking a "shit" job paying $15 an hour? nt msongs Sep 2014 #5

I understand that. Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #7

"But this is most certainly a shit job for someone with a BS." Veilex Sep 2014 #84

There are a lot of "abusive hiring practices" out there. Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #86

Then they'll complain they can't find "Qualified Workers" Thav Sep 2014 #74

In this case... Veilex Sep 2014 #85

Dylan's "20 years of schooling and they put you on the day shift..." jimlup Sep 2014 #6

$14-$16 per hour ...fitting for a diploma mill degree'd fake. L0oniX Sep 2014 #8

And Yet, I'll bet they toss any applications from those over 40 n2doc Sep 2014 #9

Welcome to the new middle class. SmittynMo Sep 2014 #12

The shit employment we see is an equal opportunity with politicians. obxhead Sep 2014 #31

I'm sitting here at 47 in the same predicament. Efilroft Sul Sep 2014 #62

That's practically chump change for a chemist t LiberalEsto Sep 2014 #10

I can't know about that particular job listing, SheilaT Sep 2014 #11

But in a tight economy daredtowork Sep 2014 #49

Not necessarily. SheilaT Sep 2014 #54

not from that agency daredtowork Sep 2014 #58

Re not being questioned by outside auditors Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #66

Liberal whining jonjensen Sep 2014 #14

FYI - "liberal" isn't an insult here DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #27

You really need to work on your messaging. "Whining" is pretty dismissive. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #32

Welcome to DU. obxhead Sep 2014 #33

I find it ironic that you deliver pizzas. cui bono Sep 2014 #40

lols d_b Sep 2014 #50

For a 4-year degree 32,000 isn't so bad. Could have good benefits. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #15

Depends on where you live. cui bono Sep 2014 #41

Really? No other reason? Android3.14 Sep 2014 #59

Right. But why is the economy so poor? cui bono Sep 2014 #80

I think it was kind of implied that established corporations were what was being referenced... Veilex Sep 2014 #88

A four year degree SHOULD net about 55k Veilex Sep 2014 #87

I believe those data include long-time workers with 4-year degrees... aikoaiko Sep 2014 #94

Hmmm... well BLS.gov Veilex Sep 2014 #95

I am 63, and this is not the America I voted for or ever wanted nikto Sep 2014 #16

Well you will get more of this if Hillary is warrant46 Sep 2014 #29

+1 n/t area51 Sep 2014 #69

+1 n/t Veilex Sep 2014 #89

Agreed! mdbl Sep 2014 #35

I doubt many People of Color ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #56

OK, fair enough nikto Sep 2014 #99

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #60

We need a new Teddy Roosevelt. n/t Bonhomme Richard Sep 2014 #72

Is this the beginning of Breaking Bad? dougg Sep 2014 #17

Just Call Me Heisenburg Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #19

I'm lost on this Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #18

OK I Get It Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #21

Brass Plated CaptCaribbean Sep 2014 #22

Get your foot in the door and see what gives. toby jo Sep 2014 #23

$31,000 a year brooklynite Sep 2014 #26

It calls for one year experience Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #28

2 yr degree is just over 40k/yr Veilex Sep 2014 #91

What do you make a year? Aerows Sep 2014 #46

My starting salary with a Masters Degree was $23,500 in 1984 brooklynite Sep 2014 #53

$23,500 in 1984 would be $53,887 today using CPI inflation krawhitham Sep 2014 #63

That would be more than double than what I started at about 30 years ago Thor_MN Sep 2014 #30

30 years ago. obxhead Sep 2014 #34

A Corvette was over $20K in 1985. Same for BMW 3 series Thor_MN Sep 2014 #39

A V8 Camaro was under 10k in '84 Reter Sep 2014 #42

Unless you wanted the Z28.. Thor_MN Sep 2014 #77

It is four times what I started at 34 years ago. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #79

There should be published ROI data by major... Thor_MN Sep 2014 #81

BLS says this: Laelth Sep 2014 #100

And $15 an hour is $31,200. I don't understand your point? Thor_MN Sep 2014 #102

I suppose so. Laelth Sep 2014 #103

Well, two data points don't necessarily paint the entire picture. Thor_MN Sep 2014 #104

Makes me sick too. IrishAyes Sep 2014 #36

Where I live they pay medical coders more than $16 hour. mackerel Sep 2014 #37

and I'm thinking about getting a coding certificate just for that reason Quayblue Sep 2014 #65

Very true. Santa Barabara City College has an online program mackerel Sep 2014 #96

Thanks! Quayblue Sep 2014 #97

I wish you all the best. mackerel Sep 2014 #98

About 30 years ago, I reluctantly... 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #38

Conservatives have been waging war on the middle class for decades. lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #43

This ^^^ Veilex Sep 2014 #92

Someone will be dumb enough to apply for it. Aerows Sep 2014 #45

The Age of the "Crafted Message" daredtowork Sep 2014 #48

i'm appalled. in NYC in '88 DesertFlower Sep 2014 #51

I worked at a place once where they called the minimum raise an introduction.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #55

Damn. I got job offer with HVAC certification and EPA Universal license, the starting pay is.... TRoN33 Sep 2014 #57

You Should Be Pissed Off! cer7711 Sep 2014 #61

That's about what you get for a BS in science. alarimer Sep 2014 #64

Sorry to Hear That Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #83

Wondering what the CEO is making. . What's the name of the company? B Calm Sep 2014 #67

As Palin said it, Helen Borg Sep 2014 #68

Makes no sense............ BlueJac Sep 2014 #71

link, please Duppers Sep 2014 #73

A college degree is the price you pay for a job out of the rain. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #78

But but but... Veilex Sep 2014 #82

Yeah and if they can't fill it with an American citizen... Jasana Sep 2014 #90

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #93

Here's your problem: MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #101