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daredtowork

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18. I suspect sometimes hospitals just say that
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:33 PM
Sep 2014

Just like your phone bill is padded with charges supposedly "imposed" by the government, but which actually go to pay the bloated telecommunications bureaucracy. Sure, some of the charges do go toward passing along government taxes and fees, but "the government" is also a convenient bad guy to blame while you inflate those fees.

Now there is a problem with individual hospitals being burdened with the costs of individual patients that can't pay. I was under the impression this was a problem the Affordable Care Act was supposed to address: but perhaps you are from a state where your Governor screwed his constituents by refusing to sign on.

The underlying problem with health care is the same as with welfare: fragmentation and inequitable cost-sharing. One of the drivers of the problem is the schadenfreude invocation of State's rights. It's schadenfreude because the tacit political intent is to treat the problem "competitively", i.e. drive the people who "cost" more to another State. While States secretly play those games, real people suffer.

Some things just have to be done as a matter of national infrastructure so States won't busily try to offload problems onto each other. This is the problem with minimum wage. This is the problem with welfare. This is the problem with health care mentioned above. That hospital would not have a pretext to charge patients for "other patients" at that particular hospital if costs were spread more evenly.

If we have single-payer, we still have to deal with the ability people to pay into the system: that means dealing with unemployment and creating more ladders out of welfare and opening up opportunities for people with disabilities instead of creating this parallel world of SSI poverty.

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Restaurants do charge the paying patrons more to cover the ones who skip out on their bills. WillowTree Sep 2014 #1
That shouldn't be allowed either. n/t. PlanetaryOrbit Sep 2014 #3
if 5% of my merchandise gets shoplifted, i can't raise my prices 5%? CreekDog Sep 2014 #11
+1 Indeed. Glassunion Sep 2014 #17
Skipping on the bill and shoplifting are also criminal acts that get people sent to jail. nt Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #5
Agree. We need single payer. NT NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #2
bad debt is a cost for any business dembotoz Sep 2014 #4
Health care should not be a liberalhistorian Sep 2014 #8
Everywhere you go in life you are paying more because some don't pay at all. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #6
You need to substitute "can't" for "don't", because liberalhistorian Sep 2014 #7
Hospitals (maybe just many or most?) can't turn away people regardless of ability to pay gollygee Sep 2014 #9
SMH at some of the replies. Sad that people don't understand the realities. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #10
That's the way everything works WestCoastLib Sep 2014 #12
Hospital can either charge paying customer more, go out of business or deny the poor healthcare. dilby Sep 2014 #13
but consider this. drray23 Sep 2014 #14
no, what is ludicrous is that healthcare is not considered a fundamental human right in this country La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #15
Not the best analogy at all. Glassunion Sep 2014 #16
I suspect sometimes hospitals just say that daredtowork Sep 2014 #18
You know what? KitSileya Sep 2014 #19
the part I don't like is onethatcares Sep 2014 #20
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