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nomorenomore08

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86. Sort of like sexual assault, in a way. People don't want to believe it can happen to them or
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:55 AM
Sep 2014

someone they care about. Therefore, the inordinate focus on what the victim did or didn't do.

How to know that you hate women [View all] ismnotwasm Sep 2014 OP
K&R - nt Ohio Joe Sep 2014 #1
I Agree Too billhicks76 Sep 2014 #127
could you comment on the actual subject of this article? niyad Sep 2014 #140
I just did. That's my comment billhicks76 Sep 2014 #151
no, you posted about something that is clearly on your agenda, niyad Sep 2014 #158
Thank you. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #2
Yeah, it's like when a cop shoots an unarmed teen and remarks are like, valerief Sep 2014 #3
Indeed. calimary Sep 2014 #120
K and R and fuck yeah. n/t MadrasT Sep 2014 #4
K&R treestar Sep 2014 #5
This article was pointed out to me by a friend ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #6
Yes it is! johnp3907 Sep 2014 #7
“She stayed with him." johnp3907 Sep 2014 #8
+1 raven mad Sep 2014 #29
I didn't post the article. johnp3907 Sep 2014 #33
Well Put ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #103
Because they know if they elaborate, someone might call them out. merrily Sep 2014 #179
It is a great article, ism. brer cat Sep 2014 #9
Stockholm Syndrome..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #37
Totally... nt TheVisitor Sep 2014 #54
The word "hate" in this case mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #10
Interesting point ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #12
I don't see my point there at all mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #20
I disagree ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #25
I'm not saying hate is a word that should be avoided mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #28
Why? ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #31
I think I've explained that already, but I'll try to add some detail mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #35
If he only shot one woman....would you ask if this was "a regular part of his life"? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #39
Huh? mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #40
it was just pointing out the irony of that statement....please read the new text I added to VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #42
I think bacteria are beneath me mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #64
I agree with you, mindwalker_i SylviaD Sep 2014 #115
Thank you, I appreciate this comment mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #133
"he just doesn't think much of her "- I actually disagree with this point... here's why: Veilex Sep 2014 #119
I can see your point mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #134
"We all need to find better ways of dealing with stuff" - Absolutely!!! Veilex Sep 2014 #138
In other words, football has a violent culture overall, Jamastiene Sep 2014 #121
Very interesting points mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #136
He IS a hater!!!! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #125
So where did I defend him? mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #137
by saying...."Maybe it wasn't hatred of women" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #149
Uhm, that doesn't show that I defended him mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #150
to someone who HAS walked several miles in the shoes of an abused woman.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #152
You're going to have your opinion regardless mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #154
there IS no other reason...... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #155
That actually is a good point mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #160
No you are WRONG! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #161
It's become very clear that you have a strong desire mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #163
It should have become very clear that I know what I am talking about.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #165
So you just know mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #167
I have them because I was married to a man JUST like this for 16 yrs.....and I VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #168
I've been through some of the same stuff mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #170
I've been thinking about this... mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #164
NOOOOO I am doing a whiz bang job of it..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #166
See my above post on bona fides mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #169
No you accept my answer as ONE who is RECOVERING from PTSD..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #171
One of the posts in another subthread mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #172
funny when therapists tell me much different.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #173
So your argument has changed from mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #175
No that is YOUR interpretation of what I said.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #177
I've explained why a bunch of times mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #178
AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! orleans Sep 2014 #57
Me thinks guilty consciences are at play here.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #126
me thinks what you thinks is quite right n/t orleans Sep 2014 #156
I think we have a bit of disconnect here ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #46
OH he just hated THAT baby is that your contention? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #50
Nope, I agree with you ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #60
I liked your analogy. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #113
It is hate. jen63 Sep 2014 #51
Like I've been pointing out mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #63
No ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #65
No, you're still taking the easy way out mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #66
And you are ignoring a systemic problem of hatred ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #68
Actually, let me change tactics here mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #70
This is a much longer conversation ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #73
What you ar describing or alluding to seems to not be hatred mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #100
"...why it's hatred against women vs. a system that promotes violence." nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #83
Getting the cause correct will determine the action to take mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #98
"you are ignoring a systemic problem of hatred" - I realy dont think Mindwalker is Veilex Sep 2014 #122
Who the fuck cares WHY he hates women? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #128
"Who the fuck cares WHY he hates women" - You should Veilex Sep 2014 #129
I don't give a fuck why my ex husband hates women.....it doesn't matter VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #130
You're thinking rather single-mindedly about this... Veilex Sep 2014 #131
Lots of therapy has helped me to "understand" this.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #132
What you're describing... Refusing to call it "hatred" is the worst kind of hair-splitting IMO. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #78
There isn't a lot anyone can do about someone hating someone else mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #101
We can at least show them that venting that hatred on another human being is totally unacceptable. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #141
Agree completely mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #147
To add to your point... Veilex Sep 2014 #116
If nothing else, how can you know a stranger's psychology well enough to say who he does nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #76
And I can turn that argument right around mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #102
Just putting a point on a "bingo card" doesn't actually address it. [nt] Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #36
Meaning? ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #47
It's a common tactic. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #53
I disagree. ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #61
Great. On what grounds? Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #82
I agree mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #67
You realize not only did you segway ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #69
Fair enough mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #71
the guy who knocked his girl out shaayecanaan Sep 2014 #18
I'm not equivicating at all here, nor am I taking a contrary position mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #21
the word "hate" in this case locdlib Sep 2014 #22
'"probably has control issues" is line saying water is wet.' mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #34
it doesn't matter what HE believes..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #44
you've typed a lot of words, but still said nothing. locdlib Sep 2014 #56
Hate must have detail? ReRe Sep 2014 #23
A man should never, ever, hit a woman, but should they all be punished the same? Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #41
By your last sentence, a man COULD hit a woman and be fine. 7962 Sep 2014 #48
OMG....AGAIN with this shit....HOW is it always always always men around to make sure to remind VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #52
Really! My post is on topic, you just don't like what I had to say. My main point is, Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #74
NO it isn't VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #123
I thought it was pretty clear we were talking about beatings, not self-defense. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #85
EXACTLY! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #124
Please stop with the hyperbole. It's ridiculous. chrisa Sep 2014 #88
He is trying to defend Male Priviledge! The privilege to STILL believe women are beneath you VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #45
I agree, VR n/t ReRe Sep 2014 #58
There are books about this concept - one with Hate in the Title JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #77
Just off the top of my head... mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #107
You should read the books JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #108
You bring up some really good points mindwalker_i Sep 2014 #110
I've been on the receiving end JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #111
Your posts in this thread are so important BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #146
Thanks so much JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #157
Rationalization is a habit of those who are unaffected BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #162
Hmm, let me think, ummmmmm..............yep, hate is the correct word to describe violent males' Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #118
K&R yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #11
I think some projection ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #27
Excellent piece by a brilliant young man who sees the context. We need leaders like these! freshwest Sep 2014 #13
We certainly do ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #15
Nothing more need be said mcar Sep 2014 #14
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2014 #16
Truth shenmue Sep 2014 #17
By the way, there's lots of other great stuff on that site. SunSeeker Sep 2014 #19
You don't need an Enigma Machine to sniff out the bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #24
There Seems to Be Some Self Loathing Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #26
K&R ReRe Sep 2014 #30
I hate to say this, you need to cut your thread - it is against DU rules happyslug Sep 2014 #32
Is a quoted sentence a paragraph? ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #62
I asked Skinner a question similar to that once steve2470 Sep 2014 #174
Rice is an animal. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #38
good article - thanks for sharing NewJeffCT Sep 2014 #43
Yes, you have expressed the progressive view. The other way is not progressive. Thanks for clarity. freshwest Sep 2014 #49
Sort of like sexual assault, in a way. People don't want to believe it can happen to them or nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #86
This is epic TheVisitor Sep 2014 #55
^^^ this^^^ BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #59
How to know that you hate women: You are a Bible thumping Republican blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #72
That was a scary video. McCamy Taylor Sep 2014 #75
"He didn't kill her." CTyankee Sep 2014 #79
Fantastic article. Kicking. riqster Sep 2014 #80
even "men shouldn't hit women" is problematic. unblock Sep 2014 #81
That's a good point. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #84
I agree, but hitting a woman is especially vile, as men are physically stronger. chrisa Sep 2014 #89
even there, i would say the emphasis on the gender distinction does more harm than good. unblock Sep 2014 #93
The issue is innate physical differences that are sex-specific. The two cannot be separated. chrisa Sep 2014 #143
sure they can. gender is but one element of physical strength difference. unblock Sep 2014 #145
There are wimpy men, and there are buff women. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #94
Women on average have 52% the upper body strength of the average man. chrisa Sep 2014 #144
Not terribly relevant in terms of precedent. (nt) Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #148
Then stating "don't hit children" is problematic for you too? LanternWaste Sep 2014 #96
i think "don't hit anyone" covers all the cases. unblock Sep 2014 #105
I wouldn't call it "hate," though labeling it as such isn't necessarily wrong. chrisa Sep 2014 #87
The dynamics of these relationship situations (power, oppression, violence) ... CaptainTruth Sep 2014 #90
If violence against women is intolerable, what does that imply about violence against men? Threedifferentones Sep 2014 #91
I think one part of this is just a little off hughee99 Sep 2014 #92
Well said! REC!!! DesertDiamond Sep 2014 #95
At the risk of getting trashed Stonepounder Sep 2014 #97
Funny Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #99
so you think this kind of violence is funny??? wow. . . . just. . . .wow. niyad Sep 2014 #142
message kept 2-5. alp227 Sep 2014 #153
thank you for showing that. there are days I despair of this site. niyad Sep 2014 #159
yeah i said funny Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #180
denial is not a river in egypt. niyad Sep 2014 #181
SMH Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #182
reading coomprehension is helpful. the OP is not mine, but keep niyad Sep 2014 #183
SMH Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #184
or just really love Male Privilege. whathehell Sep 2014 #104
While at physical therapy yesterday azmom Sep 2014 #106
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #109
DU Rec. (stockholm let me go home ...) Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #112
I learn more and more every day on the DU about this. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #114
Strawman how I love thee! Egnever Sep 2014 #117
Don't hit anyone who isnt hitting you. quakerboy Sep 2014 #135
k and r + several gazillion. niyad Sep 2014 #139
That's quite a lot of ann--- Sep 2014 #176
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