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In reply to the discussion: How to know that you hate women [View all]mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)"I know this stuff cuase it happened to me," to "I know this stuff and other people agree with me." That's a slight improvement. However, you haven't refuted anything I've brought up, like how each situation is different, and not every situation is the same. Or that there are many different things that can be happening, but we have very little knowledge of what was happening in Rice's situation. Or, that we tend to see out own situations in others that, from the limited information we have, bear some similarities - the pigeonhole effect.
It's also odd that a lot of your belief in being right vs. me is your claim to have been through it. You don't know what I've gone through, whether there are similarities, or that my experiences may be relevant. It's like you are staking an absolute claim to knowing everything about abusive situations and denying that anyone else - who doesn't come to the exact same conclusions as you - knows anything. It's like there's an ownership problem.
The books you linked to describe a specific type of situation. That's good, and I believe they have a lot to offer, but it's one specific type of situation. It doesn't cover everything, as there are a lot of different situations out there. There are different reasons men are violent and that Rice's gal was the target of his violence does not mean that she had low self esteem and got into the type of relationship described by the book or the type that you had (or I had).
In fact, it seems unlikely that Rice's gal - Janey? I should use her name rather than a her position relative to him - has low self esteem. I'm guessing she's a stronger woman, in terms of self-esteem, ego, etc. in order to have been able to have a relationship with someone who's definitely got a big ego. I'm guessing, but there is some reason at all for that guess, unlike you're assumption she has low self esteem and sought out someone to bully her around.
I keep writing all this stuff, with analyses, reasoning, logic, and I keep creating theories as to why this all happened (between Ray and Jane). You are responding with little or no reasoning, just statements to the effect that you know stuff, some people agree with you, and that your therapist agreed that every situation was the same so the cause was the same for all cases (I doubt he or she meant that). I think you're looking more for agreement, more like a support group than an argument or discussion, if that discussion disagrees with your conclusions.