False equivalence. (Reply #38) - Democratic Underground

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Mon Sep 15, 2014, 12:10 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

38. False equivalence.

The fast food worker was not attacking anyone with his sign. He was trying to help his customers.

Attack someone out of the blue, and without merit, and expect deserved ridicule.

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145 replies	Author	Time	Post
"No Frise Sorry" - The guy that wrote this sign wants 15 dollars an hour? [View all]	TalkingDog	Sep 2014	OP
Does that mean that the guy who created that meme image	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Sep 2014	#1
I am slow. what does frise mean? Awesome response I must say.	roguevalley	Sep 2014	#84
I'm going to take a guess....	Historic NY	Sep 2014	#100
Well, I saw the title and thought it meant frisee lettuce	betsuni	Sep 2014	#119
Perhaps the meme creator is saying that dyslexics don't deserve to survive.	DesertDiamond	Sep 2014	#134
Afreakingmen	PeaceNikki	Sep 2014	#2
Wow... That is a pretty great put down.	Xyzse	Sep 2014	#3
Awesome rant!!	Coventina	Sep 2014	#4
K & R. n/t	FSogol	Sep 2014	#5
K&fuckingR....	daleanime	Sep 2014	#6
I thought the guy who wrote the sign was being discriminatory	snooper2	Sep 2014	#7
awwwww	niyad	Sep 2014	#13
Cute doggy!	Prophet 451	Sep 2014	#20
No!	7962	Sep 2014	#43
No, you get another one.	Brigid	Sep 2014	#57
Actually it will prove that you are comfortable in your manliness.	Enthusiast	Sep 2014	#92
Well, I'll never be a parent	Prophet 451	Sep 2014	#99
That's nice.	Enthusiast	Sep 2014	#137
Not at all! The hottest and sexiest men I know are sweet and gentle around little animals!	calimary	Sep 2014	#120
The thing that gets me about this meme is	justiceischeap	Sep 2014	#8
Maybe if he made a living wage he could help himself out.	Atman	Sep 2014	#9
Yet we do the same thing with "Get a brains Moran!"	justiceischeap	Sep 2014	#11
The guy who wrote the "Get a brains" sign is claiming superior intelligence	jeff47	Sep 2014	#16
^^^ This	Atman	Sep 2014	#30
False Equivalence. We don't question whether the "Moran" guy should have the right to vote	TalkingDog	Sep 2014	#18
I gotta post it---	packman	Sep 2014	#33
I think the moran guy should get a living wage.	Ash_F	Sep 2014	#37
"And for all you know the frise guy is a right winger."	justiceischeap	Sep 2014	#40
Meaning he/she could be against minimum wage.	Ash_F	Sep 2014	#41
I've known a couple too. Their reasoning was they did more work & deserved more than the others.	7962	Sep 2014	#44
That's rich!	Ash_F	Sep 2014	#45
Yep. I suggested to one that he should get moved to the front since they didnt work so hard	7962	Sep 2014	#48
Well there is a reason why we mock signs like "No Socalized Medicin" which is held	madinmaryland	Sep 2014	#90
This may reflect the correlation	dotymed	Sep 2014	#139
Dyslexia	abelenkpe	Sep 2014	#15
$15 accounts for productivity gains	jeff47	Sep 2014	#34
Just asking. Did you count the outrageous high rents now?	BlueJazz	Sep 2014	#91
Yes.	jeff47	Sep 2014	#122
Oh..OK....I was just wondering. (I like getting the facts straight when I "Lay into" Republicans)	BlueJazz	Sep 2014	#123
Amen!	bobGandolf	Sep 2014	#29
So, how do we know ....	Quasimodem	Sep 2014	#42
"...could be a product of our public school systems that emphasis testing over learning..."	CrispyQ	Sep 2014	#82
That's it exactly. (nt)	Jackpine Radical	Sep 2014	#86
They're being pushed so hard as part of a frantic minimal crew that they didn't have time to think	NBachers	Sep 2014	#102
Look closely at the letters on the sign.	Warren DeMontague	Sep 2014	#112
Indeed - which means they're attempting to become fluent in TWO languages, not just their	calimary	Sep 2014	#121
Very happy to K&R this. Should be applicable across the board	bullwinkle428	Sep 2014	#10
kand r and hurrah for david.	niyad	Sep 2014	#12
perfect... excellent...	handmade34	Sep 2014	#14
The "fair tax" actually doesnt work that way.	7962	Sep 2014	#47
Well fucking said	Prophet 451	Sep 2014	#17
Nicely said, Dave	Cartoonist	Sep 2014	#25
a decent rant	hfojvt	Sep 2014	#19
Not abusive	Cartoonist	Sep 2014	#26
False equivalence.	Ash_F	Sep 2014	#38
Exactly: Tolerate everything but intolerance.	knightmaar	Sep 2014	#50
ah no, his statement said	hfojvt	Sep 2014	#76
It is not abuse	Ash_F	Sep 2014	#78
and everybody thinks that their OWN attack is warranted	hfojvt	Sep 2014	#126
This has been thoroughly explained by multiple people, including myself	Ash_F	Sep 2014	#135
Arrrgggg! God I hate that type of thinking. Stop it!	20score	Sep 2014	#51
I hate your type of thinking too.	hfojvt	Sep 2014	#77
Good strategy. Remain steadfast in your reactionary wrongness! Cheers!	20score	Sep 2014	#83
my point	hfojvt	Sep 2014	#129
On the bloody morning after,	NBachers	Sep 2014	#103
LOL, the old "it's abusive to call out abuse" meme. Wrong. Dead wrong.	bettyellen	Sep 2014	#53
+1000	baldguy	Sep 2014	#89
+2000	nomorenomore08	Sep 2014	#128
Can you please give me a Facebook link to this?	HomerRamone	Sep 2014	#21
I cannot. It's from an Imgur account.	TalkingDog	Sep 2014	#24
Not enough magnification on Facebook. Thanks anyway	HomerRamone	Sep 2014	#32
you can right click and download the file, then....	steve2470	Sep 2014	#67
I used OCR to make a text version to go with the picture. Thaks for the suggestion, though! nt	HomerRamone	Sep 2014	#70
This popped up in my Facebo0ok feed; I wonder if it was yours?	arcane1	Sep 2014	#80
David Gerrold rocks -	TBF	Sep 2014	#22
I think the subject line does not do it justice - many might have no idea what it is about	karynnj	Sep 2014	#35
It was not that long ago that we had a vice president that did not know the plural of potato. nt	logosoco	Sep 2014	#23
I have no problem with that spelling, frankly.	FlatStanley	Sep 2014	#27
Bravo, kind sir! Bravo!	ColesCountyDem	Sep 2014	#28
I'm going to semi-defend Gerrold	packman	Sep 2014	#31
Its a software application	Ruby the Liberal	Sep 2014	#95
My husband made upwards of $30/hour as a CNC programmer. He was also dyslexic.	ScreamingMeemie	Sep 2014	#116
I looked at the sign and wondered what was wrong with it -- thinking salad bar and the green, frisee	karynnj	Sep 2014	#36
It too me a minute, too.	randome	Sep 2014	#46
I had the same response, and looked it up. Frisée, aka curly endive.	Shrike47	Sep 2014	#59
I was confused to!	BobbyBoring	Sep 2014	#143
you nailed it.	mountain grammy	Sep 2014	#39
I've read a good amount of David Gerrold. His stuff is good.	navarth	Sep 2014	#49
He is an equal rights activist who is a hound on raising the minimum wage	Ruby the Liberal	Sep 2014	#96
Good to hear	navarth	Sep 2014	#109
Sometimes I completely forget how to spell a word. And sometimes I have to put it into google	Maraya1969	Sep 2014	#52
Rather than "The GUY THAT wrote this sign"	delete_bush	Sep 2014	#54
Yes.	Brigid	Sep 2014	#60
Thanks!	delete_bush	Sep 2014	#79
I'm going to bet that guy who wrote that sign is dyslexic.	MADem	Sep 2014	#55
k and r...nt	Stuart G	Sep 2014	#56
I'm sick of the way the right-wing keeps the mantra that the poor need to	Rozlee	Sep 2014	#58
The majority of the workers at my local fast-food joints	justiceischeap	Sep 2014	#62
My parents never noticed anyone aside from Latinos working in the fields and	Rozlee	Sep 2014	#65
Social Control	daredtowork	Sep 2014	#106
Years ago I inherited some money. I remember after a week or so of it finally sinking in.	BlueJazz	Sep 2014	#94
I think that's just human nature.	Rozlee	Sep 2014	#107
Your words ring so true. I find it comforting to see people who wake up each day with all...	BlueJazz	Sep 2014	#115
A most righteous rant.	Brigid	Sep 2014	#61
I agree wholeheartedly	Warpy	Sep 2014	#63
"Maybe people will start to realize just how many adults are being paid suburban teenager wages."	nomorenomore08	Sep 2014	#130
How does he know the manager didn't write it?	rocktivity	Sep 2014	#64
For all anyone knows, a manager did write that.	Brigid	Sep 2014	#66
No, $15/hour is clearly not enough. The GOP should immediately make him a VP at $200K/yr	TrollBuster9090	Sep 2014	#68
awesome rant by Mr. Gerrold	steve2470	Sep 2014	#69
Not only that	rock	Sep 2014	#71
IME the worst spellers in the world have masters' degrees	jmowreader	Sep 2014	#72
Agree 100%.. I have been proofreading for my husband for 44 years	SoCalDem	Sep 2014	#74
A lot of lawyers making a few hundred bucks an hour can't spell.	Misskittycat	Sep 2014	#114
Using "that" to describe a human being negates any possible superiority claim.	displacedtexan	Sep 2014	#73
I just had a facebook argument	Sweet Freedom	Sep 2014	#75
Good for Mr. Gerrold on putting that moran in his place.	ladyVet	Sep 2014	#81
that was RIGHTEOUS!	BlancheSplanchnik	Sep 2014	#85
Not particularly important	treestar	Sep 2014	#87
Hey, spelling is important. Just as Wisconsin Governer (sic) Scott Walker!	Scuba	Sep 2014	#88
Preach it!	shenmue	Sep 2014	#93
Loved it	AuntPatsy	Sep 2014	#97
Entitled douchebags complaining about a harmless sign, they could kindly offer to correct it	whereisjustice	Sep 2014	#98
Everyone needs to watch this video and listen very close.	Milliesmom	Sep 2014	#101
Why can't I think on my feet like that???	ret5hd	Sep 2014	#104
He left off the final letter in frisee?	MineralMan	Sep 2014	#105
As a special education teacher with a reading specialist certificate, his spelling is not as bad as	wcast	Sep 2014	#108
Was probably management. n/t	tazkcmo	Sep 2014	#110
I dont know if I'd pay 15 an hour for the crap photoshop job that switched the "S" and "E"	Warren DeMontague	Sep 2014	#111
Um... what don't you buy? That somebody would create a piece of propaganda to prove a point?	TalkingDog	Sep 2014	#117
Look closely at the allegedly misspelled sign itself.	Warren DeMontague	Sep 2014	#125
I did seem to notice some blurring/pixelation that would indicate a Photoshop job.	nomorenomore08	Sep 2014	#131
I fully realize it's not worth this level of conspiratorial overthinking. That said...	Warren DeMontague	Sep 2014	#136
I wouldn't be surprised. n/t	nomorenomore08	Sep 2014	#138
it doesnt look shopped to me.	mopinko	Sep 2014	#142
I spent a grand total of five seconds on mine. If I was trying to put something over on	Warren DeMontague	Sep 2014	#144
Totally Agree!	bluedeer71	Sep 2014	#113
apart from all the other considerations mentioned here, I will add one more: the number	niyad	Sep 2014	#118
Right Wingers talk like a job,...ANY job is a cure all....	Spitfire of ATJ	Sep 2014	#124
"There are no freakin' french fries!"	R. P. McMurphy	Sep 2014	#127
Maybe he meant little old ME:	WinkyDink	Sep 2014	#132
My thoughts exactly, said better than I could. To David: MWAH! MWAH! MWAH! And a HUG!!!	DesertDiamond	Sep 2014	#133
How about the manager that approved the sign?	marym625	Sep 2014	#140
It probably was the manager who wrote it.	B Calm	Sep 2014	#141
k&r for David's response and for labor. n/t	Laelth	Sep 2014	#145

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