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57. I am struggling to make sense of your posts, yes
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 11:27 AM
Sep 2014

If I understand correctly, you are putting forward two points of Western propaganda:

1. Russians = very bad anti-Semites (as the example of the remark falsely twisted into "Jews made the Holocaust happen" purports to demonstrate)

2. anti-Semitic Neonazis in Ukraine's government = not that bad, insignificant, fleeting accident of history, let's talk about something else.

However, you just post these without wasting any thought, apparently. If you take a step back and check the sources, you will find it is utter nonsense, hard to believe anybody can take these propositions seriously.

And who's side are these guys supposed to be on? jwirr Sep 2014 #1
Is that a Rhetorical question? newthinking Sep 2014 #2
I am not sure what kind of question it is. There is some sarcasm in it but I really wanted to know jwirr Sep 2014 #5
I believe they are part of the Kiev Coup Government. The Neo Nazi party has been part of that sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author NuclearDem Sep 2014 #26
This Bloc, Sir, Polls At About 7% The Magistrate Sep 2014 #3
Nope, that was just the polling for one group and when the various groups were more disparate. newthinking Sep 2014 #4
You Are Wrong, Sir: The Figure Refers To The Groupings The Magistrate Sep 2014 #6
No use newthinking Sep 2014 #7
True, Sir: Until You Can Demonstrate Grasp Of Facts And Logic, And Mature Understanding... The Magistrate Sep 2014 #11
You are saying newthinking Sep 2014 #14
+1 Union Scribe Sep 2014 #17
It is only stating the obvious. newthinking Sep 2014 #19
Well played, Sir nt independentpiney Sep 2014 #60
If you are that knowledgeable, why the rambling OP that does not prove its subject heading karynnj Sep 2014 #61
The neo nazis won 10% of the vote in Ukraine giving them a place in the Parliament. THAT sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #32
To Translate This Into Calm English, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #36
You are obviously not familiar with electoral systems in Europe reorg Sep 2014 #41
The Threshold For Represntation Is Five Percent, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #42
If the Americans are lucky reorg Sep 2014 #46
All that would be fine, if it was accurate. When people choose to take control of their own sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #69
Sorry, but its 7% too much. Xolodno Sep 2014 #8
If we had a parliamentary system in the US, white supremacists would poll higher than 7% MohRokTah Sep 2014 #9
See my post here Xolodno Sep 2014 #16
It would be more like if the Republicans openly supported KKK leaders and gave some of them newthinking Sep 2014 #20
...otherwise known as the Tea Party. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #25
you keep making that unsupported claim. Your premises appear to be little more than irrational guess LanternWaste Sep 2014 #37
Seven Percent Is Far From Dominance, However, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #10
Sure... Xolodno Sep 2014 #15
If By 'Apologizing For', Sir, You Intend The Classic Definition Of 'Explaining' The Magistrate Sep 2014 #18
Here, For The Record, Is The Latest Polling Data The Magistrate Sep 2014 #21
The former PM and President would not be forming this alliance if they thought newthinking Sep 2014 #13
'Our guy Yatz'! Hard to admit when you are wrong, I suppose. I would rather have sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #33
Huge shock to see people excusing this. Union Scribe Sep 2014 #12
+1,000 n/t malaise Sep 2014 #35
I am curious why nobody has mentioned the "Iron Cross" that the former President and PM have on newthinking Sep 2014 #23
Doubtless It Means They Are Pawns Of Prussia's Kings, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #27
Personal personal tusk tusk. newthinking Sep 2014 #28
Once again, we Jews are touched by this sudden concern about antisemitism in eastern europe. stevenleser Sep 2014 #24
Respect for the truth please. Antisemitism is lower in Russia than Ukraine and much of Eastern Europ newthinking Sep 2014 #29
As I said, we are touched by your sudden concern. I have other sources that show Russia is worst stevenleser Sep 2014 #30
I see you have learned to spin well. Not interested in dishonest discussion. Clearly newthinking Sep 2014 #31
Yes, multiple links with proof shows "I'm not debating honestly". Nice try, not stevenleser Sep 2014 #34
Perhaps we can hold in your favor that you didn't check your sources reorg Sep 2014 #38
You struggle because you are trying to adjust facts to fit your theories instead of vice versa stevenleser Sep 2014 #39
I note that you didn't answer my question reorg Sep 2014 #43
You yourself admitted you are struggling. As a result, your question doesnt make sense. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #52
I am struggling to make sense of your posts, yes reorg Sep 2014 #57
Probably because I am neither an antisemite nor a Russian apologist like your other sources stevenleser Sep 2014 #64
I'll take your word for it reorg Sep 2014 #68
Given Your Defense Of 'Vineyard of the Saker', Sir, As A Legitimate Source Of Fact And Commentary The Magistrate Sep 2014 #40
Are you associating yourself reorg Sep 2014 #44
Put Bluntly, Sir, I Know You Have Defended That Blog As A Legitimate Source The Magistrate Sep 2014 #45
I have shown that you presented reorg Sep 2014 #47
For The Record, 'reorg' On 'Vineyard of the Saker' The Magistrate Sep 2014 #48
For the record reorg Sep 2014 #54
Do, Please, Continue, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #56
You can debate this with the blogger in question reorg Sep 2014 #58
Nothing To Debate, Sir: He Is A Raving Anti-Semite, You Defend Him The Magistrate Sep 2014 #59
I linked a map and a video reorg Sep 2014 #62
And You Repeat Your Defense Here, Sir, Even As You Say You Do Not Defend Him The Magistrate Sep 2014 #63
loyal to the Kiev government with its Neonazi ministers, yes reorg Sep 2014 #65
To Call The Kiev Government A Nazi Government, Sir, Remains False To Fact The Magistrate Sep 2014 #66
Which the ADL and other Jewish groups says is a lie and Russian apologia. stevenleser Sep 2014 #67
Same here leftynyc Sep 2014 #51
The US does not have any moral authority to involve itself nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #49
Neither Does Russia, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #50
Parubiy hasn't been a member of Svoboda in over 10 years. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #53
'Zombie Facts', Sir, Shamble Ever Onwards... The Magistrate Sep 2014 #55
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor Sep 2014 #70
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