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In reply to the discussion: Anti-vax asshat RFK Jr. on Dr. Oz, promoting his anti-vax asshat book... [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)201. It's crushing how misleading a single sentence can be, not to mention paragraphs.
As an example:
"Then removal of thimerosal from children's vaccines 13 years ago should have affected autism rates - HUGE TOPIC See Dr. Mark Hyman's comments (below)
along with the recommendation that pregnant women skip the flu shot - LISTEN BELOW OBGYN NEWS, NO WARNING TO AVOID THIMEROSAL EVEN NOW
and avoid fish with measurable mercury contamination." - DONE
http://www.obgynnews.com/home/article/video-experts-offer-top-tips-for-flu-season-2014-2015/f4f72b6d8237665549a38c4ea1a7200b.html
VIDEO: Experts offer top tips for flu season 2014-2015
By: HEIDI SPLETE, Ob.Gyn. News Digital Network
SEPTEMBER 18, 2014
WASHINGTON Options and opportunity are the keys to navigating the 2014-2015 flu season, according to a panel of experts at a press conference sponsored by the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases.
The easier we make it for people to get vaccinated, the more likely they are to get vaccinated, said CDC Director Thomas Frieden, who received his flu shot at the press conference.
In interviews at the conference, Dr. Frieden, Dr. Paul A. Offit of the Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia; Dr. Laura E. Riley of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston; and Dr. William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tenn., discussed making the most of opportunities to vaccinate patients, offering reassurance about vaccine safety (especially for pregnant women), setting an example in your practice by getting vaccinated yourself, and ensuring that everyone who works in your office receives a flu vaccine as well.
VIDEOS AT LINK.
VIDEO: Experts offer top tips for flu season 2014-2015
By: HEIDI SPLETE, Ob.Gyn. News Digital Network
SEPTEMBER 18, 2014
WASHINGTON Options and opportunity are the keys to navigating the 2014-2015 flu season, according to a panel of experts at a press conference sponsored by the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases.
The easier we make it for people to get vaccinated, the more likely they are to get vaccinated, said CDC Director Thomas Frieden, who received his flu shot at the press conference.
In interviews at the conference, Dr. Frieden, Dr. Paul A. Offit of the Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia; Dr. Laura E. Riley of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston; and Dr. William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tenn., discussed making the most of opportunities to vaccinate patients, offering reassurance about vaccine safety (especially for pregnant women), setting an example in your practice by getting vaccinated yourself, and ensuring that everyone who works in your office receives a flu vaccine as well.
VIDEOS AT LINK.
As detailed recently by Dr. Mark Hyman,
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2014/08/20/robert-kennedy-jr-mark-hyman-appear-dr-oz-show/
Dr Mark Hyman: I am very concerned that public confidence in vaccines has been eroded and see a very important opportunity for policy makers to reassure parents and the population that clear steps have been taken to reduce a potential risk from vaccines and thereby reestablish public trust.
Most consumers and even most policymakers dont understand that the conclusions from the IOM (which found no correlation between Thimerosal and autism) were fundamentally flawed.* First, the studies looked only at autism, not at neurodevelopmental disorders in general, missing the potential to identify more subtle harm from Thimerosal.
* Second, population studies by their very nature cannot prove cause and effect, nor disprove it. They can only generate hypotheses based on associations. So to draw a conclusion that they are not linked, and to declare the need for further studies unnecessary, is simply scientifically inaccurate.
* And (third) the few observational studies that the IOM report was based on that everyone quotes as vindicating Thimerosal were deeply flawed as extensively documented in the book.** Three of the IOM-accepted studies relied in whole or in part on Danish population autism statistics which showed that autism levels increased after Thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 1992. This evidence strongly suggested that Thimerosal was not linked to autism.
However, the IOM did not properly account for confounding factors in the data such as 1) the counting of both outpatient and inpatient cases after 1995 that expanded the number of children known to be affected, 2) the adopted use of a broader definition of autism in 1994, and 3) the exclusion prior to 1992 of the largest Danish clinic treating autism which cared for 20 percent of autism cases.
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Anti-vax asshat RFK Jr. on Dr. Oz, promoting his anti-vax asshat book... [View all]
SidDithers
Sep 2014
OP
Daughter of PBS journalist Robert MacNeil and mother of a child with autism (can't shut her up/down)
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#69
The article links to this CDC webpage, please read it. It's factual, nothing objectionable there.
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#112
Your continued support of a criminal and his agenda on DU is sickening.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2014
#131
Not up-to-date? No wonder, blame in-the-weeds material plus media's failure to inform the public.
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#172
no, I asked somebody if it were accurate. Heavens to mergatroid on the hyperbole.
Voice for Peace
Sep 2014
#133
Fracking is also dangerous to the health of millions. Why won't any of you that
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#185
Depends on the question. I would put people who still press the question of whether vaccines cause
LeftishBrit
Sep 2014
#152
Climate change deniers, Holocaust deniers, Birthers, people who believe ACORN stole the elections...
YoungDemCA
Sep 2014
#180
No problem. I hadn't seen it either until I followed Archae's link and looked around at some of...
xocet
Sep 2014
#22
Who ignores the effects of BPA and other cumulative toxins in food and other products?
Voice for Peace
Sep 2014
#44
Your post is a great way to defeat argument by authority. However, the letter's content is not...
xocet
Sep 2014
#136
not here to debate your point of view, or defend Dr. Oz, who has always given me the creeps
Voice for Peace
Sep 2014
#142
This is why the static Oz got from Congress was well deserved. What makes this even more of a white
still_one
Sep 2014
#7
i wish you were right, but you are wrong. posts on DU have reflected such views
still_one
Sep 2014
#146
Please review post 63. Of course, some would rather go blind than see but I hope you're smarter.
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#186
I probably know 100 physicians personally, and every single one supports vaccination.
ColesCountyDem
Sep 2014
#19
The following graphic makes clear how current official recommended schedules are varied by country.
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#70
You are not up-to-date. In addition to the sources below, look around for audio of #CDCwhistleblower
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#63
NTSA? Let me guess from the source/context: "No Telling Stupid Anything?" Well, I disagree.
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#102
1) #hearthiswell on youtube 2) that Baez song, Diamonds and Rust, 'Then give me another word for it'
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#105
Kennedy calls world-leading immunologists "biostitutes", like prostitutes...
SidDithers
Sep 2014
#27
It will not happen on this website, I think there are too many insecure people here
Tumbulu
Sep 2014
#36
No I am not, and this is just the typical thing- lumping not approving of gmo's in
Tumbulu
Sep 2014
#177
So you admit abusing the alert system to push your point of view. Apparently you don't
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#149
"but those who believe in vaccines are so terrified" "No arguments are ever won by name-calling."
Thor_MN
Sep 2014
#38
Respectfully, you are wrong: "There actually are plenty of studies showing that vaccines can be
FSogol
Sep 2014
#40
You may be correct about many or most anti-vaxxers, but not all are con men or grifters.
Voice for Peace
Sep 2014
#49
I agree but it's never an effective strategy to attack people in order to change their beliefs.
Voice for Peace
Sep 2014
#57
I don't know if there is or isn't. But there are legitimate stories of damaged children; and it's no
Voice for Peace
Sep 2014
#61
Ironically, its the anti-vaccination movement that refuses to have a real dialogue
YoungDemCA
Sep 2014
#182
You're more concerned with disproven claims of vaccine danger than REAL diseases that kill
Arugula Latte
Sep 2014
#200
Re: "dr" Oz: giving out suspect medical advice should not be allowed on tv
NightWatcher
Sep 2014
#41
You are asking a lot. It's so much more fun to get out tar and feathers than actually
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#122
Regardless of an improbable autism connection, thimerosal does not belong in children's vaccines.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#65
did your PHD tell you much mercury you inhale living downwind of a coal-fired power plant?
hobbit709
Sep 2014
#83
One wrong exposure doesn't excuse more -- especially one that's injected directly into
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#87
We don't eat any tuna around here, which is the fish most likely to have high levels.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#155
I guess no one told you that pregnant women now take flu vaccines with thimerosol,
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#157
Excellent OP as always, Sid. RFK Jr. is a stain on the progressive cause. nt
msanthrope
Sep 2014
#80
I am glad you are so health conscience. How about fracking? Are you as passionate about
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#96
Don't you agree that fracking is a very serious health concern? Or do you agree with Pres Obama
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#103
Some feel better if they find someone to tar and feather and heaven help those that try
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#173
just so there is no confusion, i completely support the use of asshat in this context
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2014
#191
Familiar w the following? If not, please investigate further including Youtube #hearthiswell (~340?)
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#198
Then removal of thimerosal from children's vaccines 13 years ago should have affected autism rates
bhikkhu
Sep 2014
#199
It's crushing how misleading a single sentence can be, not to mention paragraphs.
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#201
I cannot imagine disregarding the informed& unequivocal views of CDC scientist Dr William W Thompson
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#205
I cannot imagine ignoring all the science leading away from the thimerosal/autism theory
bhikkhu
Sep 2014
#206
CORRECTION: 'Dr. William Thompson, a senior CDC researcher' 'senior scientist Dr. William Thompson'
proverbialwisdom
Sep 2014
#207
I wonder if he'd recommend "no" to an ebola vaccine to those in Liberia?
TexasMommaWithAHat
Sep 2014
#208
There aren't enough smilies to cover up how un-democratic character assassination is.
Octafish
Sep 2014
#215
If I posted every single time you tried suggesting a DUer was a paid operative
NuclearDem
Sep 2014
#243
Funny how the posters who cry "hero worship" anytime anything positive is said about Obama
zappaman
Sep 2014
#233