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eggplant

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72. Um, I'm pretty sure I never said that.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:00 AM
Sep 2014

I believe that my comments have been pretty consistent. Unions protect the due process rights of their members, and negotiate and defend the contract that was agreed upon with the city. A union acts in the interests of its collective members. Unions don't have any direct control over management. Firing someone requires action by management, and previously agreed upon rules have to be followed.

Even if there is a clear case where the cop is in the wrong, the union is still obligated to provide them with counsel as part of any arbitration related to their job (firing, demotion, etc). It is *because* the union doesn't evaluate the alleged event, but instead provides support to their member on their way towards mediation, that makes them a union.

If the DA decides a crime has been committed, they proceed with it. If not, it isn't the union that prevents it.

I would be shocked if it was found that the police planted a weapon at the scene. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #1
OTDWB 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #3
Sounds like it. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #4
Well he IS frowning in the photo at the link. uppityperson Sep 2014 #66
Maybe he was really big cyberswede Sep 2014 #2
We'll be told in a couple of weeks that he once stole some bubble gum from a vending machine. morningfog Sep 2014 #7
And he tested positive for pot. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #30
Any odds on if the cop was 'spanked' as a kid and turned out Ok??? HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #5
No! .. he was merely "Hannity-ed' 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #10
Oh...-THAT- is a NORMATIVE response!!!!!!! HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #11
Every damn day there's a story like this. lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #6
I blame Police Unions 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #8
That's complete and utter bullshit. eggplant Sep 2014 #25
Well, I spent summers typing up grievances to work my way through college. hollysmom Sep 2014 #29
That is correct. sulphurdunn Sep 2014 #33
Perhaps you've heard of ... 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #34
Yes, yes I have heard of it. eggplant Sep 2014 #42
I cannot speak for other cities, but regarding Portland ... here are 5 for starters 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #44
An interesting collection of articles. eggplant Sep 2014 #49
The case of Aaron Campbell 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #52
Sigh. eggplant Sep 2014 #53
I don't think it's ONLY the union that's problematic 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #59
For the same reason that an attorney would. eggplant Sep 2014 #62
IMHO that is absurd logic my friend 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #65
Um, I'm pretty sure I never said that. eggplant Sep 2014 #72
"Unions do not protect terrible members." 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author eggplant Sep 2014 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author eggplant Sep 2014 #64
And amazingly, your link doesn't even *mention* the word "union". eggplant Sep 2014 #43
Actually I did post this ... 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #45
LOLOLOLOL, really? You really are claiming Police unions do not protect BAD cops??? nt Logical Sep 2014 #46
I'm claiming that unions represent their cops at arbitration. "Protect" is the wrong word here. eggplant Sep 2014 #47
Do some research on the Philly Police Union. Read before posting!!Gullible much? nt Logical Sep 2014 #48
Ok, I did some reading up. eggplant Sep 2014 #50
That's life in a fascist, racist police state. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #9
PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #32
tears!!!! Stellar Sep 2014 #12
No kidding. 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #14
I think of my 16yr old grandson. Stellar Sep 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #13
Wonder what else was on his "public relations" TO DO list? ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #15
? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #16
My town in MA is quite small, and our PIO handles normal police calls hughee99 Sep 2014 #17
That's not the shooter madville Sep 2014 #20
You're right. I misunderstood. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #24
not sure why you felt the need to try to offer a contrarian point of view in the thread CreekDog Sep 2014 #67
Lonely much? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #68
Not at all, I'm surrounded by great people constantly CreekDog Sep 2014 #69
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #70
clever way to avoid responding CreekDog Sep 2014 #71
I don't give a flying you know what if he is black bigdarryl Sep 2014 #26
And that would be DU derangement Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #41
The poster isn't deranged. CreekDog Sep 2014 #57
Another article about the incident madville Sep 2014 #19
Oh, dear TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #23
It seems the 911 calls are really causing the overblown action of the cops yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #31
+1 noticed it too lunasun Sep 2014 #51
SSDD blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #21
Do I even need to post this? KamaAina Sep 2014 #22
Raw Story did a good job of sensationalizing the story Bonx Sep 2014 #27
Tillman’s brother, Andre, said that his brother heard a knock at the door of the abandoned home yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #28
As usual a black male child is shot dead by police 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #35
Actually I blame the nosey neighbor yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #38
True dat ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #40
Nosy neighbor? alp227 Sep 2014 #61
Playing in abandoned homes MattBaggins Sep 2014 #54
And in those books about kids going into spooky old homes TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #58
Really?! Feron Sep 2014 #56
The other accomplices in the break-in could potentially madville Sep 2014 #36
Goddamn. When is this shit going to stop? AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #37
Agreed on all points. 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #39
And we are the civilized nation, going to bomb those uncivilized 'terrorists' in Syria! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #55
+10 n/t 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #60
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