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In reply to the discussion: Ben Affleck vs. Bill Maher on Islam: Bill's right. [View all]liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)14. I watched with my daughter because she is atheist. She thinks he goes too far as well.
My daughter believes that everyone should be treated with respect whether religious or non religious.
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The current state of Islam in the most liberal Muslim-majority country (Turkey)
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#20
oh please. First of all, you're wrong. secondly, did you know that Tunisia, for instance,
cali
Oct 2014
#25
No, it was a question about the largest Muslim majority country in the world.
Turborama
Oct 2014
#137
You introduce a strawman (moving to another "moderate" Islam country) to the issues of moderat Islam
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#197
No, it isn't. There is no stoning in Indonesia. There are no Sharia courts outside Aceh
Turborama
Oct 2014
#139
Can you read? I said there are no Sharia courts outside Aceh, which is a tiny part of Indonesia.
Turborama
Oct 2014
#141
Well said. Affleck is a smart, terrific liberal, but Maher was right this time.
valerief
Oct 2014
#2
Mayer wants religion abolished. He is just as extreme as religious extremists.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2014
#3
I watched Religulous. He makes it pretty clear he wants religion abolished, and I do not think
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2014
#6
I watched with my daughter because she is atheist. She thinks he goes too far as well.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2014
#14
Has Bill Maher killed anyone, raped anyone, or denied someone rights for his lack of religion?
Shoulders of Giants
Oct 2014
#17
But, unlike the religious zealots who slaughter in the name of their own particular brand
Arugula Latte
Oct 2014
#66
Islam believes in the Islamic world. It has a specific Koranic term for it.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#87
Strongly agree with Affleck on this point and disagree with You, Maher, Sam Harris
2banon
Oct 2014
#10
And yet our extemeists are not allowed to do the things you say they would do. Other people
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#15
We failed to support the rebels earlier, so they had to turn to uglier elements.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#49
Again, all we did in Libya was stop Gaddafi from massacring his people from the air.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#54
That's a nonsensical conspiracy theory straight out of a Tea Party conference.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#57
Nonsense, we took part in regime change. I suppose you ould claim that in order to
Vattel
Oct 2014
#112
I agree that the jihadis are a reaction, but conservative Islam is mainstream.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#100
precisely; the entire curve is shifted toward extremism in the islamic world. that is what i
TheFrenchRazor
Oct 2014
#153
I've just re-read your OP, I didn't read it carefully the first time, my apology
2banon
Oct 2014
#37
Ben is an international film star whose massive income depends on investment from and box office
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#13
What I said is absolutely factual. International film is all about pleasing internatinal viewers.
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#30
Actually that was more of a response to the many responses in this thread that imply that
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2014
#35
Many of us want to see religion disappear from the free and voluntary decision of individuals
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#43
"the only way to change that is to confront it - not be morally relativistic."
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2014
#34
Liberal parties are always bound to attract more than our fair share of squishy people.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#102
These type of Dems DON'T though. They try to claim the attacks are all in your mind.
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2014
#113
Some of them live in a perpetual state of Stockholm Syndrome because of their weakness.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#117
So if 60% of your students voted to kill one of your other students for abandoning Islam...
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#81
I have no formal training outside of physical sciences, I just like to read and think.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#179
LOL! So your defense of Islamic theocracy is that the oppression is limited to other Muslims?
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#84
No, but the tenet of Maher's argument is that they all want to fucking kill us.
Darkhawk32
Oct 2014
#85
I agree that criticizing a belief system is not the same as criticizing a group of people
Arugula Latte
Oct 2014
#67
I certainly haven't met as many as responded to the Washington Post poll.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#78
I live in an area that has a fairly significant Hassidic Jewish population.
Arugula Latte
Oct 2014
#92
The lifestyle is similar, but Hasidic Judaism's attitude toward apostasy
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#98
The trouble is, it's far too easy to slip into the "All Muslims" line of thinking
Scootaloo
Oct 2014
#79
Bingo! Read my reply in this thread. I think we're on the same page here. n/t
Darkhawk32
Oct 2014
#91
No, it's not new. It's been going on for a while and got worse since DU3's "no rules" policy came in
Turborama
Oct 2014
#111
Yeap, our western polls taken in their countries about their religion say they hate us... ok...
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#193
Sure, in reaction. But the source of the obsession is within the ME itself.
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#199
oh bullshit!! Israel has done nothing but expand and expand and expand its settlements
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#182
We (as in we right here) can confront it by acknowledging it and not shying away from the subject
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#115
It isn't common sense, it is bullshit. You don't get to make up your own definitions.
kwassa
Oct 2014
#120
What term would you use for states that murder people for criticizing religion?
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#122
+1, cause Christian crap don't stink to some... Also, he's giving Chrisitians a time limit as if
uponit7771
Oct 2014
#194
I seen the show and I, totally, agree with Maher. I can't understand why some, here
demosincebirth
Oct 2014
#204
Nice articulate post. I agree with all you said, but many ultra-liberals here will read the
demosincebirth
Oct 2014
#217
Good point. But it reinforces my point that it's just opinion. There is no single definition.
CJCRANE
Oct 2014
#214