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KittyWampus

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101. I personally am not an ethical vegan… I just don't buy or cook meat for myself.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 12:27 PM
Oct 2014

And as I posted elsewhere in this thread… I eat meat if it's served to me at a friend's house.

That said, the overwhelming majority of meat-eaters cannot stand to have their habits brought into the light and feel threatened when it is.

My responses in this thread are largely playing devil's advocate with the intent of pointing out how many liberals will support activists who go to extremes for other environmental issues but can't deal with bringing up the negative impacts of the meat industries.

Even if we limited the discussion to buying local, organic and humanely raised meat- many DU'ers would call that being elitist and say there's no difference between industrial meat and local/organic meat.

Do People Hate Vegans? [View all] G_j Oct 2014 OP
if they would just shut up dembotoz Oct 2014 #1
They would shut up if there were more vegan meals. DetlefK Oct 2014 #3
I feel your pain... I only eat animals that were left paw dominant... Oktober Oct 2014 #230
Just a personal anecdote: DetlefK Oct 2014 #235
I'm vegan mucifer Oct 2014 #2
When I was a vegan, and was asked why, ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #127
I tell them I like to eat as far away from my own DNA as possible. CrispyQ Oct 2014 #136
Ha! nt ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #139
I think most are like you too Marrah_G Oct 2014 #163
I never ask why Retrograde Oct 2014 #191
Those icky pamphlets did inspire me to get meat only from eridani Oct 2014 #218
huh. i havent seen it. the few i know, people seem to work hard toward their sensitivity. seabeyond Oct 2014 #4
I like vegans Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #54
i got an easy, yummy, low cost recipe this summer. i kinda appreciate them. lol seabeyond Oct 2014 #62
I have a recipe for vegan creamed spinach- LiberalElite Oct 2014 #170
Some of us are so tough antiquie Oct 2014 #152
2% sounds like a very high estimate. surrealAmerican Oct 2014 #5
Two percent doesn't represent people who call themselves "vegans." Eric J in MN Oct 2014 #8
And you never know what might make use of animals TexasProgresive Oct 2014 #66
violinists sometimes use gut wrapped in steel or silver. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #204
There are different definitions for the word "vegan." ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #128
This is the first definition at the Merriam Webster website Eric J in MN Oct 2014 #237
I'm indifferent to vegans Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #6
+1 kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #81
Eeyup hifiguy Oct 2014 #93
This. nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #209
I don't know if ordinary people hate vegans per se. merrily Oct 2014 #7
I am a vegetarian, so do not hate vegans. RebelOne Oct 2014 #9
You eat leather goods? Generic Brad Oct 2014 #183
I think I'll just leave that one alone... freshwest Oct 2014 #214
because of petulant whiny self-absorbed screeds like this article perhaps? whatthehey Oct 2014 #10
The article does quickly drift off the alleged topic... Orsino Oct 2014 #14
Feels like trolling... Oktober Oct 2014 #234
The hostility toward vegans frogmarch Oct 2014 #11
Life eats life, meat or veg, it's not a defense mechanism, but if it helps you sleep... elias7 Oct 2014 #174
One of the biggest anti-CAFO spokesperson is a meat eater. He agrees that our meat production Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #178
I knew someone that went vegetarian when his college made a field trip to a slaughterhouse. I forgot freshwest Oct 2014 #215
Listen - if God hadn't wanted us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meat! wyldwolf Oct 2014 #12
Babies are both meaty and defenseless. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #130
Zombies know no bigotry wyldwolf Oct 2014 #154
True! Marrah_G Oct 2014 #164
My philosophy on Vegans is the same as my philosophy on Fundamentalist Christians brooklynite Oct 2014 #13
+1 FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #21
So you prefer to eat your meat ignoring the huge environmental costs its production KittyWampus Oct 2014 #55
...and, there we have it. brooklynite Oct 2014 #57
I know....right? alphafemale Oct 2014 #79
What part of that post even remotely invokes an attitude of "morally superior"? KittyWampus Oct 2014 #94
Right, your unthinking habits must not be highlighted because your feel threatened. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #91
So, if I advocate for renewable energy, I'm an environmentalist. If I advocate for Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #97
The analogy fails... brooklynite Oct 2014 #123
Ultimately, yes. And, as an environmentalist and a social and political activist, Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #125
OK, right, you've got it.... daleanime Oct 2014 #99
Nobody has to be a strict, "ethical" vegan to be a good environmentalist. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #84
I personally am not an ethical vegan… I just don't buy or cook meat for myself. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #101
Just curious, when you eat meat at a friends house, do you spend dinnertime telling them about the hughee99 Oct 2014 #110
No. That would be incredibly rude. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #132
Flambating you? I haven't responded to your posts. hughee99 Oct 2014 #140
Yes Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #119
Surf 'n Turf.. go both! DontTreadOnMe Oct 2014 #225
I've seen studies Aerows Oct 2014 #167
no DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #15
It's not about avoiding chicken nuggets frazzled Oct 2014 #16
Either don't invite vegans to dinner or ask them to bring something for themselves--problem solved. justiceischeap Oct 2014 #28
I am a gracious host, and would never frazzled Oct 2014 #38
Yes, you can bring your own steak as long as justiceischeap Oct 2014 #90
Exactly, these days vegan baking has improved dramatically. And without eggs, dairy and as much oil KittyWampus Oct 2014 #44
I am preferably vegan and bake the most amazing breads, cakes, brownies. It isn't difficult KittyWampus Oct 2014 #42
TBH I would not eat anything above tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #60
Dear "frazzled" .... you have captured the intresting dynamic of having dinner guest who proclaim to Ninga Oct 2014 #45
I think you are way out there. I'm a vegetarian upaloopa Oct 2014 #50
Agree with you. When my vegan sister in law visits for a week, its really hard riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #72
I will reiterate what I said above justiceischeap Oct 2014 #103
Your friend's daughter is being a tiresome, self-righteous and hifiguy Oct 2014 #111
I'd invite the daughter Retrograde Oct 2014 #194
I wonder if there's something equivalent to a vegan rabbi... Silent3 Oct 2014 #229
LOVE this idea. Last time she came to visit she fasted for 3 days riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #242
There ARE great vegan desserts. Codeine Oct 2014 #175
Veganism is more a religion than a diet tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #17
this is the exact vegan people hate... ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #31
She is right that our food choices can have a huge negative impact on the environment. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #88
correct on both points... ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #117
Don't forget the environmental impact of her airplane trips (which we are taking up part of kelly1mm Oct 2014 #190
You know, it's funny but I'm sure you could find videos from any segment of the population justiceischeap Oct 2014 #35
My point is that you don't get activists for other dietary choices tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #43
Why would there be "activists" for meat-eating when it is ubiquitous? Even though the vast majority KittyWampus Oct 2014 #46
You are starting to remind me of the vegan in the video I posted tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #64
No, I'm pointing out to the inability of meat-eaters to really examine their habits and the impact KittyWampus Oct 2014 #106
"examine and change behavior" tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #124
There’s been plenty of pushback against shark fin soup. I imagine if dog was more popular in the US Chathamization Oct 2014 #126
Never heard of shark fin soup tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #131
Antagonism to fur is far more wide spread than just PETA. It used to not be uncommon to have people Chathamization Oct 2014 #133
There is a lot of very high quality fake fur out there eridani Oct 2014 #221
And some people prefer real fur, just as some people prefer meat N/T Chathamization Oct 2014 #227
But gluten-free and low-carb are not moral choices. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #142
being Kosher is a moral choice tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #143
I think kosher is more religious than moral, meaning that Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #144
And vegans should not care what non vegans are eating tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #148
I agree. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #150
My "cause" is primarily environmental. Telling people not to care about what other people are eating Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #151
Evangelical veganism cost me my childhood best friend tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #153
That is quite a leap from the original post to which I responded. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #155
The problem with shark fin soup Retrograde Oct 2014 #198
i'm sure there are more activists for meat than for veganism fishwax Oct 2014 #169
Truly and bribing states to criminalize animal rights activists from secretly recording their Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #172
I had a friend couple in Detroit I met bowling backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #158
Couldn't listen to the whole video vankuria Oct 2014 #53
I had to shut off the video Marrah_G Oct 2014 #165
You nailed it customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #182
As a meat-eater, I think there's some truth to this. DanTex Oct 2014 #18
I don't 'admire' them customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #186
Yeah, admiration is EXACTLY what I was feeling the other night at a company dinner Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2014 #201
Funny how every group is "one of the last remaining minorities that can be made fun of" Orrex Oct 2014 #19
Some of my Arab friends would welcome "merely" being made fun of. merrily Oct 2014 #20
I don't doubt it--that's kind of my point Orrex Oct 2014 #25
Yes, and I gave an example of your point. merrily Oct 2014 #29
Okay then. Orrex Oct 2014 #61
Well said. reflection Oct 2014 #34
Only the ones trying to convert others to their morality. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #22
Conversion is not the only issue. And it's about all kinds of special dietary requirements, not only merrily Oct 2014 #40
You have a brain and free will like rest of us upaloopa Oct 2014 #56
Yes, the perfect solution to his selfishness was for me to eat dinner alone. merrily Oct 2014 #63
You seem to be the selfish one to me upaloopa Oct 2014 #68
No, he expected several people to run their lives to suit his special requirement, with no merrily Oct 2014 #69
I hate selfish people but not all vegans are selfish. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #65
He wasn't a vegan, just an example of a special dietary requirement, merrily Oct 2014 #67
Wow, sounds like assholey behavior. Marr Oct 2014 #86
Oops-- mispost. Marr Oct 2014 #92
I explained a little bit about why in Reply 67. merrily Oct 2014 #98
Ah. Yeah, that's a messy situation. Marr Oct 2014 #104
I suspect he just liked certain places more than the ones others in the group were suggesting. merrily Oct 2014 #115
"If you are vegan, you probably avoid mentioning your dietary habits at all costs. " Oktober Oct 2014 #233
Hate is for losers. randome Oct 2014 #23
nobody really cares about vegans, I guess this person is trying to make up a "they hate us" meme snooper2 Oct 2014 #24
People just don't like being told that The2ndWheel Oct 2014 #26
I don't hate anybody... tridim Oct 2014 #27
As a mostly vegan vegetarian justiceischeap Oct 2014 #36
Like I said, it's your right to believe/do whatever you want. tridim Oct 2014 #41
I view militant vegans in the same way that I view religious fanatics and those who have given up Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #30
How do you view militant or ignorant meat eaters? The ones who don't give a crap what the pig shit KittyWampus Oct 2014 #33
Sigh. So predictable. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #37
Right, it's better to just ignore the damage and costs meat production has on our environment- KittyWampus Oct 2014 #52
Heh. Here, let me help: Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #58
Yes! Winter's coming! freshwest Oct 2014 #217
Oh yeah! Saying you are vegan is taken as an affront or insult to those who eat meat. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #32
I posted my new recipe for a savory Roasted Butternut Squash Soup with Bacon recently KurtNYC Oct 2014 #39
Food is the end result of industrial practices. So no, it isn't just love. Although intention KittyWampus Oct 2014 #47
I have to ask, What makes you think you know so much about what other people do ? KurtNYC Oct 2014 #75
OMG, I love your life! I haven't had chickens for years. Kept them mostly to keep down insects. They freshwest Oct 2014 #219
There is a Covington in our mixed flock that I am especially fond of KurtNYC Oct 2014 #228
How do you heat their roost in the winter? I used hay. The cold weather greenhouse/coop freshwest Oct 2014 #240
this will be the first winter on this farm so I'm not exactly sure what the plan is KurtNYC Oct 2014 #241
MUCH food is "the end result of industrial practices". Not ALL food. And for the most part, vegans kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #109
I love that soup HockeyMom Oct 2014 #102
I don't eat bacon very often, love the taste but bacon is KurtNYC Oct 2014 #116
Actually, posting a vegan recipe will invariably Codeine Oct 2014 #177
To be fair, that's just science. (nt) Inkfreak Oct 2014 #223
I work with quite a few vegans and vegetarians. dilby Oct 2014 #48
Nah, more meat for me. Xyzse Oct 2014 #49
I'm a vegetarian. We also get our share of "What is the word for bad hunter in Apache?" Zorra Oct 2014 #51
Reminds me of the joke... LanternWaste Oct 2014 #59
HA! Good one. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #74
How incredibly silly, having a vegan diet does not make one a minority. tritsofme Oct 2014 #70
My experience with vegans is that too many SheilaT Oct 2014 #71
Some veggie burgers are better than some meat burgers Retrograde Oct 2014 #200
Similar to atheists, a tiny but vocal minority poison the public perception. Throd Oct 2014 #73
I don;t have a problem with Vegans, but some have a problem with me... Adrahil Oct 2014 #76
It's not what they eat, it's the self-righteousness that so often accompanies it. Paladin Oct 2014 #77
I haven't had a working TV in years and most people I know personally are unaware of that fact. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #113
I'll take a dozen vegans over this guy.. Inkfreak Oct 2014 #224
Agreed. (nt) Paladin Oct 2014 #231
I have been a vegetarian since 1996. I have found that people go out of there way to accommodate me DeadEyeDyck Oct 2014 #78
I eat mostly vegan meals, but I am not an "ethical vegan", so I don't preach it like religion and kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #80
Amen.... daleanime Oct 2014 #87
I don't know about hate, but I have seem interesting reactions..... daleanime Oct 2014 #82
Breastmilk is an animal product HockeyMom Oct 2014 #83
I don't worry much about what other people choose to eat. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #85
What I don't get is the avoidance of things like cheese and eggs. hifiguy Oct 2014 #89
About cheese... MadrasT Oct 2014 #149
I'm annoyed by vegans Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #95
Minor point here yewberry Oct 2014 #189
Who hates them? They're incredibly common now. Marr Oct 2014 #96
It's funny that you post this matt819 Oct 2014 #100
For me the issue is really factory farming. G_j Oct 2014 #108
This is my point in posting throughout this thread. Meat eaters do not want to examine their habits KittyWampus Oct 2014 #112
frankly G_j Oct 2014 #122
I don't hate vegans and my vegan friends don't hate me. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #105
I've seen lots of vegan hate on this board whatchamacallit Oct 2014 #107
I don't hate vegans. I hate vegan guests. Proud Public Servant Oct 2014 #114
I dislike all preachy people. Xithras Oct 2014 #118
He sounds like a control freak Marrah_G Oct 2014 #168
no, but i have yet to know one who doesn't have an eating disorder La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #120
Because they are usually to tough and to chewy whistler162 Oct 2014 #121
Saying you aren't preachy, then lecturing on how bad things are? Yes, you are preachy in that case uppityperson Oct 2014 #129
By that measure, so is just about every editorial against violence and war. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #145
My complaint is not pointing out facts, but saying "i am not preachy" and preaching. uppityperson Oct 2014 #146
I'm not vegan get the red out Oct 2014 #134
Some people have a disdain for those who do not consume flesh. Avalux Oct 2014 #135
I have to agree. kentauros Oct 2014 #171
Only when it's their turn to bring lunch for the day. egduj Oct 2014 #137
People? 99Forever Oct 2014 #138
Well, if you want to know, CrispyQ Oct 2014 #141
You're conflating vegetarianism and veganism brooklynite Oct 2014 #147
Everyone's against people preaching morality...until they run into things that morally offend them Chathamization Oct 2014 #156
A few rules I tend to live by as a vegan: NuclearDem Oct 2014 #157
You are my kind of vegan! zappaman Oct 2014 #161
The very existence of vegans tends to remind carnivores of the grotesque cruelty Karmadillo Oct 2014 #159
Thanks for posting this but as I suspected, it turned into yet another opportunity to bash vegans. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #160
I don't Marrah_G Oct 2014 #162
Nope. Eat what you want, when you want to. Rex Oct 2014 #166
What happens in Vegans should stay in Vegans. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #173
Well done! customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #188
Why? Because some people are just assholes. kentauros Oct 2014 #176
I say to each his/her own. We certainly don't have to all eat alike.. Cha Oct 2014 #179
Think of that **CRUNCH** -- when you bite in to that pickle! immoderate Oct 2014 #180
They're a little chewy, but okay with ketchup DJ13 Oct 2014 #181
Some Vegans are like born-again Christians... gerogie2 Oct 2014 #184
I'm not a big fan of vegan zombies...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #185
Could acts like this be a big part of the reason? oneshooter Oct 2014 #187
I know people like this think they are helping their cause, but they aren't Marrah_G Oct 2014 #193
Yes. yewberry Oct 2014 #192
My sister-in-law (knowing I was a vegetarian) once offered me a bowl of vegetarian chili. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #196
I'm too lazy to hate vegans mythology Oct 2014 #195
I'm 95% vegan AndreaCG Oct 2014 #197
Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #199
I'm a vegan, and don't hide the fact. JEFF9K Oct 2014 #202
They don't. Having to answer the occasional stupid question is hardly oppression. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #203
Get in the kitchen and make me a taco XemaSab Oct 2014 #205
I have to go to the SDA store for supplies. But I keep remembering on Saturdays. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #206
I'm not vegan or vegetarian. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #207
Hate is a strong word Bettie Oct 2014 #208
I reduced my blood pressure by 20 points this year by giving up most meat and butter Starry Messenger Oct 2014 #210
Do People Hate Vegans? Only the ones that don't eat meat. :) branford Oct 2014 #211
People hate the stereotype. U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #212
Nope, people hate proselytizers. haele Oct 2014 #213
Damn Right--- Preach it! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #222
A pain in the ass to plan meals for eridani Oct 2014 #216
Why do vegans feel persecuted? Recursion Oct 2014 #220
I gave up on a friend who went vegan Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #226
I've had friends who became Christians Mariana Oct 2014 #239
People hate preachy vegans... Oktober Oct 2014 #232
I think it's more the other way around. They hate meat eaters!! B Calm Oct 2014 #236
No ohnoyoudidnt Oct 2014 #238
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