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3. Well, gee, I'm really confused now.

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 02:43 PM

Oct 2014

Our government would never do this, right? How could these "arrangements" possibly have been made?

I'm sure there is a good explanation. Something involving Smith vs. Maryland, or Judith Miller, or metadata, or the fact that Snowden is a poopyhead or Glenn Greenwald is gay.

Or maybe it's just necessary because ISIS is under our beds, or Ebola might get us.

I trust and adore my government so much I want every aspect of my life naked to them *and* anyone they choose to share it with. That's what's most important, right?

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British Spy Agency: We Don't Need Warrant for Americans' Data. We Have 'Arrangements' [View all] Octafish Oct 2014 OP

"arrangements" -- we don't need no damn legalities. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #1

If it's illegal for NSA to spy on Americans, no problem-o. GCHQ'll do it. Octafish Oct 2014 #31

"Power tends to corrupt... Tace Oct 2014 #2

Lord Acton was spot-on. Octafish Oct 2014 #32

Well, gee, I'm really confused now. woo me with science Oct 2014 #3

ECHELON is WASP exclusive Octafish Oct 2014 #34

Keep this on top. Our government has no right to be making "ARRANGEMENTS" like this. woo me with science Oct 2014 #4

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #20

Do these 'arrangements' have to do with specific suspects, perhaps? randome Oct 2014 #5

Don't even start. Seriously. woo me with science Oct 2014 #9

Can you read the PDF? There are checks and balances in place. randome Oct 2014 #28

If they have to do with "specific suspects" then there is probable cause to get a warrant. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #13

Ask the judge. Octafish Oct 2014 #35

Why has Obama not ended this bullshit? Maedhros Oct 2014 #6

Looks like he's the latest prez not to take on the mic... polichick Oct 2014 #17

Political courage is in very short supply these days. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2014 #18

+1 This was an important OP: woo me with science Oct 2014 #19

True, and the ptb make sure that only compliant candidates... polichick Oct 2014 #24

I guess he's just fine with it. No resistance from him that I can see. pa28 Oct 2014 #26

Excellent questions for which the public has no right-to-know. Octafish Oct 2014 #36

So let's join in with DNI CLAPPER leading his arrangement of "God Save the Queen"=no rule of law.n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #7

Did you see the NFL London broadcast Sunday morning? Octafish Oct 2014 #37

No-but I'm glad that the LIONS won. n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #44

K&R Cleita Oct 2014 #8

The old end-around. Octafish Oct 2014 #38

Aw, shoot! gratuitous Oct 2014 #10

Theres no other solution! woo me with science Oct 2014 #11

I was gonna say, "Aw shit" gratuitous Oct 2014 #14

Did Snowden leak the Family Jewels back in '76? Octafish Oct 2014 #39

"We don't need no stinkin' warrants!" yellowcanine Oct 2014 #12

Warrants are so Old School. Octafish Oct 2014 #41

The FBI's shameful recruitment of Nazi war criminals (Richard Rashke essay 3-6-13 Reuters) bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #47

The Five Eyes program whereby plausible deniability exists for the participating countries riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #15

^^^^^^ Thank you. ^^^^^^^ woo me with science Oct 2014 #16

That's the Formula! Octafish Oct 2014 #25

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #21

Safe and effective, secret spying is quite profitable, too. Octafish Oct 2014 #40

Recommend...... KoKo Oct 2014 #22

Mass Surveillance in America: A Timeline of Loosening Laws and Practices (Cora Currier, Justin bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #23

This is a great overview. Kick for your addition. Thanks! Nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #29

Passing and renewing the "Patriot" act are two huge steps JEB Oct 2014 #42

Thank you. woo me with science Oct 2014 #46

Recommend wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #27

Seems to me that this needs another kick. hootinholler Oct 2014 #30

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #33

K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Oct 2014 #43

Are people afraid to post on this subject? JEB Oct 2014 #45