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woo me with science

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9. Don't even start. Seriously.
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 03:29 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Wed Oct 29, 2014, 04:18 PM - Edit history (1)


I know, the defensive spin *must* be issued....

But MY LORD what insulting drivel.

" Do these 'arrangements' have to do with specific suspects, perhaps?"

Good god. They have access to EVERYTHING. There is no excuse for that. Hell, there is no excuse for our OWN government to have the vast, vast majority of this information. How DARE they hand it out like Halloween candy to BRITISH SPY AGENCIES? (not to mention sharing with contractors, corporations, the DEA, and Goldman Sachs knows who else...)

"What other solution would anyone suggest"?!!!11!!1!

Solution to what? That's the cherry on top, seriously. When you want to defend the indefensible, pretend it's the only possible response to an imagined problem. Somehow, the USA managed for all these years without engaging in mass spying on Americans; creating detailed databases of Americans' private daily lives, associations, and communications; and handing it all to British Spy agencies. But gosh, what other SOLUTION could there be?

Yeah, Hitler called what he was doing a (final) "solution," too... Every nascent authoritarian state pretends to be coming up with "solutions."

You, of course, will respond with more of the same here, because having the last word is the unwritten rule for diversion and message control.

I won't be feeding your nonsense further, and I hope no one else does, either. But I just had to underscore how silly and absolutely insulting to all of DU these talking points have become.
"arrangements" -- we don't need no damn legalities. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #1
If it's illegal for NSA to spy on Americans, no problem-o. GCHQ'll do it. Octafish Oct 2014 #31
"Power tends to corrupt... Tace Oct 2014 #2
Lord Acton was spot-on. Octafish Oct 2014 #32
Well, gee, I'm really confused now. woo me with science Oct 2014 #3
ECHELON is WASP exclusive Octafish Oct 2014 #34
Keep this on top. Our government has no right to be making "ARRANGEMENTS" like this. woo me with science Oct 2014 #4
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #20
Do these 'arrangements' have to do with specific suspects, perhaps? randome Oct 2014 #5
Don't even start. Seriously. woo me with science Oct 2014 #9
Can you read the PDF? There are checks and balances in place. randome Oct 2014 #28
If they have to do with "specific suspects" then there is probable cause to get a warrant. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #13
Ask the judge. Octafish Oct 2014 #35
Why has Obama not ended this bullshit? Maedhros Oct 2014 #6
Looks like he's the latest prez not to take on the mic... polichick Oct 2014 #17
Political courage is in very short supply these days. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2014 #18
+1 This was an important OP: woo me with science Oct 2014 #19
True, and the ptb make sure that only compliant candidates... polichick Oct 2014 #24
I guess he's just fine with it. No resistance from him that I can see. pa28 Oct 2014 #26
Excellent questions for which the public has no right-to-know. Octafish Oct 2014 #36
So let's join in with DNI CLAPPER leading his arrangement of "God Save the Queen"=no rule of law.n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #7
Did you see the NFL London broadcast Sunday morning? Octafish Oct 2014 #37
No-but I'm glad that the LIONS won. n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #44
K&R Cleita Oct 2014 #8
The old end-around. Octafish Oct 2014 #38
Aw, shoot! gratuitous Oct 2014 #10
Theres no other solution! woo me with science Oct 2014 #11
I was gonna say, "Aw shit" gratuitous Oct 2014 #14
Did Snowden leak the Family Jewels back in '76? Octafish Oct 2014 #39
"We don't need no stinkin' warrants!" yellowcanine Oct 2014 #12
Warrants are so Old School. Octafish Oct 2014 #41
The FBI's shameful recruitment of Nazi war criminals (Richard Rashke essay 3-6-13 Reuters) bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #47
The Five Eyes program whereby plausible deniability exists for the participating countries riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #15
^^^^^^ Thank you. ^^^^^^^ woo me with science Oct 2014 #16
That's the Formula! Octafish Oct 2014 #25
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #21
Safe and effective, secret spying is quite profitable, too. Octafish Oct 2014 #40
Recommend...... KoKo Oct 2014 #22
Mass Surveillance in America: A Timeline of Loosening Laws and Practices (Cora Currier, Justin bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #23
This is a great overview. Kick for your addition. Thanks! Nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #29
Passing and renewing the "Patriot" act are two huge steps JEB Oct 2014 #42
Thank you. woo me with science Oct 2014 #46
Recommend wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #27
Seems to me that this needs another kick. hootinholler Oct 2014 #30
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #33
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Oct 2014 #43
Are people afraid to post on this subject? JEB Oct 2014 #45
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