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In reply to the discussion: British Spy Agency: We Don't Need Warrant for Americans' Data. We Have 'Arrangements' [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)25. That's the Formula!
America's Spy Technology Should Never Be Turned on America
From a Church Committee hearing...
"At the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such (is) the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
"If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology...
"I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return."
- During 1975 investigation of ECHELON / Project Shamrock, as Senate Intelligence Committee chairman
Weird SOURCE, but, hey! It's got Sen. Frank Church quotes in full on there...
http://web.archive.org/web/20071016231034/http://fdrs.org/frank_church_quotes.html
From a Church Committee hearing...
"At the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such (is) the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
"If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology...
"I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return."
- During 1975 investigation of ECHELON / Project Shamrock, as Senate Intelligence Committee chairman
Weird SOURCE, but, hey! It's got Sen. Frank Church quotes in full on there...
http://web.archive.org/web/20071016231034/http://fdrs.org/frank_church_quotes.html
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British Spy Agency: We Don't Need Warrant for Americans' Data. We Have 'Arrangements' [View all]
Octafish
Oct 2014
OP
Keep this on top. Our government has no right to be making "ARRANGEMENTS" like this.
woo me with science
Oct 2014
#4
If they have to do with "specific suspects" then there is probable cause to get a warrant.
yellowcanine
Oct 2014
#13
So let's join in with DNI CLAPPER leading his arrangement of "God Save the Queen"=no rule of law.n/t
bobthedrummer
Oct 2014
#7
The FBI's shameful recruitment of Nazi war criminals (Richard Rashke essay 3-6-13 Reuters)
bobthedrummer
Oct 2014
#47
The Five Eyes program whereby plausible deniability exists for the participating countries
riderinthestorm
Oct 2014
#15
Mass Surveillance in America: A Timeline of Loosening Laws and Practices (Cora Currier, Justin
bobthedrummer
Oct 2014
#23