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MillennialDem

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57. Dictionary says
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:05 AM
Oct 2014

Morning star: Also called holy water sprinkler, holy water sprinkle. a medieval shafted weapon having a head in the form of a spiked ball.

Flail: an instrument for threshing grain, consisting of a staff or handle to one end of which is attached a freely swinging stick or bar. a similar instrument used as a weapon of war.

Of course, I'm a medieval fantasy nerd

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2014 #1
Then... Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #2
look again, and a plus 1000 is a rec, but who's counting ???? orpupilofnature57 Oct 2014 #3
Self defense firearms are made for saving lives. ileus Oct 2014 #4
Death for the sake of feeding the family is an acceptable purpose and sometimes necessary purpose. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #5
yep - one reason - killing DrDan Oct 2014 #6
K&R Principled Peter Oct 2014 #7
Yeah but... 99Forever Oct 2014 #8
Sorry, but that's s crock. The fallacies are so obvious, I won't bother to point them out. badtoworse Oct 2014 #9
The right to self-defense exists even if the NRA never existed. The 2 are wholly separate. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #10
How do "self-defense firearms" save lives, exactly? Orrex Oct 2014 #11
Nothing. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #12
I've never hear of someone standing in their back yard being killed by ... Scuba Oct 2014 #13
Target shooting, trap and skeet, hunting and self defense are all legitimate uses of firearms badtoworse Oct 2014 #14
I'll accept that bvf Oct 2014 #15
Ebola! We have to ban sneezing! DetlefK Oct 2014 #16
Unfortunately, the wingnuts bleating about banning XYZ Bettie Oct 2014 #17
It's not the NRA that is the problem Sneak the freak Oct 2014 #18
I think the main differences are DISTANCE, both spatially and emotionally, and TARGET SIZE. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #19
The primary purpose of guns is penile enhancement. True Blue Door Oct 2014 #20
Self defense doesn't involve killing? mac56 Oct 2014 #21
There is no such animal as a "self-defense firearm." It is a firearm, period. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #23
Sometimes self-defense involves killing someone; other times, the firearm acts as a deterrent. badtoworse Oct 2014 #24
There's a good toon which explains this: LeftinOH Oct 2014 #25
That's a weak argument by equivocation Orrex Oct 2014 #26
False. GGJohn Oct 2014 #27
The same with any weapon. Half-Century Man Oct 2014 #28
While I agree with most of that, the last row doesn't work. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #29
Welcome to DU..... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2014 #30
That's a very interesting observation Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #31
My guns must be defective hack89 Oct 2014 #32
and that is just plain wrong Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #33
Actually, I gotta agree with the others here. Plenty of people still do. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #34
Try to educate yourself beyond your little bubble. Inkfreak Oct 2014 #35
Obviously safeinOhio Oct 2014 #36
All those involve killing, practice killing, or the threat of killing. MillennialDem Oct 2014 #37
Like my snowblower, then. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #38
The police in Utah swarmed a black man open carrying a Japanese styled sword Half-Century Man Oct 2014 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #40
The vast majority of deaths by firearm are not justified though. Something like MillennialDem Oct 2014 #41
False. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #42
You mean 200 per year, in the state of florida, right? AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #43
A hell of a lot of hunters aren't on food stamps, GGJohn Oct 2014 #44
Guns are not inanimate objects apparently hack89 Oct 2014 #45
What you described is technically a flail. A morning star is a spiked club or mace :p MillennialDem Oct 2014 #46
K & R Thespian2 Oct 2014 #47
I would say you are not a hunter badtoworse Oct 2014 #48
That last rifle is the most popular competive target shooting rifle in America. Nt hack89 Oct 2014 #49
Nope, but like my snowblower Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #50
Um... JUSTIFIABLE homicide by firearm, per year, for the whole US (see links) MillennialDem Oct 2014 #51
I've never found targets or clay pigeons to be much of a threat. badtoworse Oct 2014 #52
So perhaps we should make that illegal hack89 Oct 2014 #53
I don't know from technical, but what he described sounded like what Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #54
You've obviously never had to nail a nail in a hurry! rock Oct 2014 #55
Is it? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #56
Dictionary says MillennialDem Oct 2014 #57
So Thespian2 Oct 2014 #58
One could postulate that they act as pacifiers for the fearful and paranoid. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #59
In fact it is a .. gun. pangaia Oct 2014 #60
Those fall under practice killing. MillennialDem Oct 2014 #61
Perhaps hack89 Oct 2014 #62
Actually tens of thusands of people, pangaia Oct 2014 #63
Even if that is true -- so what? aikoaiko Oct 2014 #64
Even if I conceded your point (and I don't), what difference would it make? badtoworse Oct 2014 #65
Here's a quick lesson on the difference between guns and knives: thucythucy Oct 2014 #66
You would be very wrong. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #67
How many people use hand guns for trap and skeet, and hunting? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #68
In my case Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #69
The point of the OP (and me) is that guns are not tools. They are only weapons because their only MillennialDem Oct 2014 #70
Competitive target shooting. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #71
Guns are, first and foremost, weapons and a good weapon is effective at killing. badtoworse Oct 2014 #72
Are you going to vouch for every other gun owner? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #73
"Please provide hard statistics on the number of deaths resulting from one person using alcohol" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #74
I can vouch for the vast majority of legal gun owners hack89 Oct 2014 #75
Want to meet my wife's family? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #76
I don't petition for things to be banned. That would be the responsibility of those who claim Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #77
Could you please identify all of them to the authorities? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #78
And that's their only function. MillennialDem Oct 2014 #79
Certainly we need laws like UBCS hack89 Oct 2014 #80
Why would I agree to that? Orrex Oct 2014 #81
I live in SW Ohio. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #82
See Post 72. I don't consider the fact that firearms are weapons to be important. badtoworse Oct 2014 #83
See Post 83 and have a nice day. badtoworse Oct 2014 #84
If guns are only designed to kill then my guns are defective Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #85
Wow.... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2014 #86
That merely makes you a pre-murderer hack89 Oct 2014 #87
Im glad you used the sarcasm tag Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #88
The families of people that are killed daily do consider it to be important. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #89
That's about as close to nonsensical as a claim can get Orrex Oct 2014 #90
So you really can't vouch then? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #91
Do you seriously believe that violent criminals practice shooting on the range? badtoworse Oct 2014 #92
Oh the extremes the butters will go to in order to deflect, flamin lib Oct 2014 #93
Read through the whole sub-thread. I was just pointing out vacuous blather for what it is. badtoworse Oct 2014 #94
With the recent meat labeling ruling sarisataka Oct 2014 #95
No, I can speak for myself, stop trying to put words in my mouth. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #96
You need to get out some. ileus Oct 2014 #97
There are some here that actually think that way. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #98
But doesn't the intent of the owner count for something? hack89 Oct 2014 #99
This isn't Australia. There are maybe a dozen states where more gun control has political support badtoworse Oct 2014 #100
We Need To Hammer This Point colsohlibgal Oct 2014 #101
Sure! It counts for the intent of the object's owner, but not for the object's intent by design. Orrex Oct 2014 #102
You declare it to be bogus but that doesn't make it so. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #103
Not everyone is pre-criminal hack89 Oct 2014 #104
So people's actions are irrelevant? hack89 Oct 2014 #105
So called bushmeat is likely as healthy or healthier than what people but at stories aikoaiko Oct 2014 #106
Some progressives would go so far as to call it "organic" ileus Oct 2014 #107
If used to protect or save the life of a family member or myself. ileus Oct 2014 #108
bushmeat LOL - have you ever even been in the woods? snooper2 Oct 2014 #109
I moved my snowblower from the outbuilding to the garage last weekend. ileus Oct 2014 #110
I am well aware of the proper name of a ball flail. Half-Century Man Oct 2014 #111
I just don't have a huge drive Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #112
That's not what I said at all. Orrex Oct 2014 #113
Firearms are regulated Lurks Often Oct 2014 #114
Many deer are killed safeinOhio Oct 2014 #115
The deep and abiding obsession with my linuxman Oct 2014 #116
You identify one big difference that should be noted LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #117
I hadn't considered shotgun slugs for big game, but they would not be my first choice badtoworse Oct 2014 #118
"We won't let kids under 21 vote or drink alcohol, but we are perfectly OK with them toting weapons" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #119
Well, no. Orrex Oct 2014 #120
"attempt to stroll down the main street in your town...You won't make it two blocks." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #121
Locking. It is the hosts consensus this does not meet the SOP for GD Autumn Oct 2014 #122
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