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In reply to the discussion: British Spy Agency: We Don't Need Warrant for Americans' Data. We Have 'Arrangements' [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)40. Safe and effective, secret spying is quite profitable, too.
For those "in the know," that is.
NSA Spying Not Very Focused on Terrorism: Power, Money and Crushing Dissent Are Real Motives Ops
Proof that Power, Money and Crushing Dissent Are NSAs Real Motives for Spying
By Washington's Blog
Washington's Blog 24 October 2013
The NSA not only spied on the leaders of Germany, Brazil and Mexico, but on at least 35 world leaders.
The Guardian reports:
One unnamed US official handed over 200 numbers, including those of the 35 world leaders, none of whom is named. These were immediately tasked for monitoring by the NSA.
SNIP...
And even the argument that 9/11 changed everything holds no water. Spying started before 9/11 and various excuses have been used to spy on Americans over the years. Even NSAs industrial espionage has been going on for many decades. And the NSA was already spying on American Senators more than 40 years ago.
Governments who spy on their own population always do it to crush dissent. (Why do you think that the NSA is doing exactly the same thing which King George did to the American colonists which led to the Revolutionary War?)
Of course, if even half of what a NSA whistleblower Russel Tice says that the NSA is spying on and blackmailing top American government officials and military officers (and see this) then things are really out of whack.
SOURCE with LINKS to details and sources:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/proof-that-nsa-spying-is-not-really-focused-on-terrorism.html
Someday we'll all look back fondly on these days and say, "Whatever happened to democracy, anyway?" Then, the police will knock down the door and take the person who said that away.
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British Spy Agency: We Don't Need Warrant for Americans' Data. We Have 'Arrangements' [View all]
Octafish
Oct 2014
OP
Keep this on top. Our government has no right to be making "ARRANGEMENTS" like this.
woo me with science
Oct 2014
#4
If they have to do with "specific suspects" then there is probable cause to get a warrant.
yellowcanine
Oct 2014
#13
So let's join in with DNI CLAPPER leading his arrangement of "God Save the Queen"=no rule of law.n/t
bobthedrummer
Oct 2014
#7
The FBI's shameful recruitment of Nazi war criminals (Richard Rashke essay 3-6-13 Reuters)
bobthedrummer
Oct 2014
#47
The Five Eyes program whereby plausible deniability exists for the participating countries
riderinthestorm
Oct 2014
#15
Mass Surveillance in America: A Timeline of Loosening Laws and Practices (Cora Currier, Justin
bobthedrummer
Oct 2014
#23