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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
41. Warrants are so Old School.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 11:06 AM
Oct 2014
Obama's New FBI Chief Approved Bush's NSA Warrantless Wiretapping Scheme

James Comey becomes just the latest symbol of the Obama legacy: normalizing what was very recently viewed as radical

by Glenn Greenwald
Published on Thursday, May 30, 2013 by The Guardian

One of the biggest scandals of the Bush administration (which is really saying something) began on December 16, 2005. That was when the New York Times' James Risen and Eric Lichtblau were finally allowed to reveal what they had learned more than a year earlier: namely, that President Bush, in 2002, had ordered the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on the electronic communications of US citizens without first obtaining warrants from the FISA court as required by 30-year-old criminal law. For the next three years, they reported, the NSA "monitored the international telephone calls and international e-mail messages of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the United States without warrants." The two NYT reporters won the Pulitzer Prize for that story.

To say that progressives and liberals bellowed sustained outrage over that revelation is to understate the case. That NSA program was revealed less than two months after I first began writing about political issues, and I spent the next full year overwhelmingly focused on that story, and also wrote my first book on it. In progressive circles, the NSA warrantless eavesdropping program was the pure symbol of Bush/Cheney radicalism and lawlessness: they secretly decided that they were empowered to break the law, to commit what US statutes classified as felonies, based on extremist theories of executive power that held that the President, as Commander-in-Chief, was entitled under Article II of the Constitution to eavesdrop however he wanted in the name of national security, even if it meant doing exactly that which the law forbade.

The FISA law provided that anyone who eavesdrops without the required warrants - exactly what Bush officials did - is committing a felony "punishable by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than five years, or both" - for each offense. Moreover, all three federal judges who actually ruled on the merits of the Bush NSA warrantless eavesdropping program concluded that it violated the law.

So why, then, was there no accountability for this systematic illegal spying? That happened for two reasons. First, both the Bush DOJ and then the Obama DOJ successfully convinced obsequious federal courts that the eavesdropping program was so secretive that national security would be harmed if courts were to adjudicate its legality - in other words, top government officials should be placed above and beyond the rule of law because doing so is necessary to Keep Us Safe™. Second, the Bush DOJ's most senior lawyers - Attorney General John Ashcroft, Deputy Attorney General James Comey and OLC chief Jack Goldsmith - approved a legal memorandum in 2004 endorsing radical executive power theories and warped statutory interpretations, concluding that the Bush NSA warrantless eavesdropping program was legal, thus making it more difficult to prosecute the Bush officials who ordered it (even if the Obama DOJ were inclined to prosecute, which they were not).

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http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/05/30-7

Greenwald. Hah!

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"arrangements" -- we don't need no damn legalities. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #1
If it's illegal for NSA to spy on Americans, no problem-o. GCHQ'll do it. Octafish Oct 2014 #31
"Power tends to corrupt... Tace Oct 2014 #2
Lord Acton was spot-on. Octafish Oct 2014 #32
Well, gee, I'm really confused now. woo me with science Oct 2014 #3
ECHELON is WASP exclusive Octafish Oct 2014 #34
Keep this on top. Our government has no right to be making "ARRANGEMENTS" like this. woo me with science Oct 2014 #4
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #20
Do these 'arrangements' have to do with specific suspects, perhaps? randome Oct 2014 #5
Don't even start. Seriously. woo me with science Oct 2014 #9
Can you read the PDF? There are checks and balances in place. randome Oct 2014 #28
If they have to do with "specific suspects" then there is probable cause to get a warrant. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #13
Ask the judge. Octafish Oct 2014 #35
Why has Obama not ended this bullshit? Maedhros Oct 2014 #6
Looks like he's the latest prez not to take on the mic... polichick Oct 2014 #17
Political courage is in very short supply these days. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2014 #18
+1 This was an important OP: woo me with science Oct 2014 #19
True, and the ptb make sure that only compliant candidates... polichick Oct 2014 #24
I guess he's just fine with it. No resistance from him that I can see. pa28 Oct 2014 #26
Excellent questions for which the public has no right-to-know. Octafish Oct 2014 #36
So let's join in with DNI CLAPPER leading his arrangement of "God Save the Queen"=no rule of law.n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #7
Did you see the NFL London broadcast Sunday morning? Octafish Oct 2014 #37
No-but I'm glad that the LIONS won. n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #44
K&R Cleita Oct 2014 #8
The old end-around. Octafish Oct 2014 #38
Aw, shoot! gratuitous Oct 2014 #10
Theres no other solution! woo me with science Oct 2014 #11
I was gonna say, "Aw shit" gratuitous Oct 2014 #14
Did Snowden leak the Family Jewels back in '76? Octafish Oct 2014 #39
"We don't need no stinkin' warrants!" yellowcanine Oct 2014 #12
Warrants are so Old School. Octafish Oct 2014 #41
The FBI's shameful recruitment of Nazi war criminals (Richard Rashke essay 3-6-13 Reuters) bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #47
The Five Eyes program whereby plausible deniability exists for the participating countries riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #15
^^^^^^ Thank you. ^^^^^^^ woo me with science Oct 2014 #16
That's the Formula! Octafish Oct 2014 #25
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #21
Safe and effective, secret spying is quite profitable, too. Octafish Oct 2014 #40
Recommend...... KoKo Oct 2014 #22
Mass Surveillance in America: A Timeline of Loosening Laws and Practices (Cora Currier, Justin bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #23
This is a great overview. Kick for your addition. Thanks! Nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #29
Passing and renewing the "Patriot" act are two huge steps JEB Oct 2014 #42
Thank you. woo me with science Oct 2014 #46
Recommend wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #27
Seems to me that this needs another kick. hootinholler Oct 2014 #30
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #33
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Oct 2014 #43
Are people afraid to post on this subject? JEB Oct 2014 #45
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