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Cha

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42. "Center right moderate".. I call bullshite. You don't call this Progress.. as in it's Progressive?
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:46 AM
Nov 2014

Paul Krugman: In Defense of Obama..

But now the shoe is on the other foot: Obama faces trash talk left, right and center – literally – and doesn't deserve it. Despite bitter opposition, despite having come close to self-inflicted disaster, Obama has emerged as one of the most consequential and, yes, successful presidents in American history. His health reform is imperfect but still a huge step forward – and it's working better than anyone expected. Financial reform fell far short of what should have happened, but it's much more effective than you'd think. Economic management has been half-crippled by Republican obstruction, but has nonetheless been much better than in other advanced countries. And environmental policy is starting to look like it could be a major legacy.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/in-defense-of-obama-20141008

Again, Progress.

"For the 2014 Election, Use This List of 269 Accomplishments by President Obama, Democrats"

http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/

He's also been busy signing Executive Orders that no "center right" pol would be doing.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

Why should they follow through? Maedhros Oct 2014 #1
politicians aren't much more than door to door salesmen, NM_Birder Oct 2014 #18
I'm thinking because ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #2
How about connecting SS to the Deficit, when every Dem knows that is not even sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #10
Notice how you left out what I wrote? I did. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #11
Needs an 'All of The Above' option. nt procon Oct 2014 #3
I Agree. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #5
the corporate money is there so that the corporations eventually cultivate pols MisterP Oct 2014 #4
If not for the money, then why do the pols "do their [corporate] bidding"? nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #6
why, ideology! there's three nice big categories of human motivation: MisterP Oct 2014 #21
Other: Because they're perpetually afraid of losing the election that happened 10 years ago. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #7
The second option is interesting. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #8
I have toyed with the "remember JFK" theory for years hifiguy Oct 2014 #23
I don't know what ever gave you the impression that Obama was a "progressive" Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #9
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #12
The one thing I find interesting, really... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #32
++1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #34
Maybe because he ran on a Progressive agenda? Such as protecting teachers sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #13
+100 ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #19
That's nice, did he have a Congress that would vote for all of those things? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2014 #41
Yes, we won the House, Senate and WH. Remember? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #48
Nope. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2014 #50
"Center right moderate".. I call bullshite. You don't call this Progress.. as in it's Progressive? Cha Nov 2014 #42
Mahalo Cha. I vote for Democrats too. lovemydog Nov 2014 #55
Are you UKian or USian, or both? merrily Nov 2014 #51
Both? Not sure what that has to do with anything, though. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2014 #53
Sorry. I noted the UK spelling convention and was curious. merrily Nov 2014 #54
Because they're, first and foremost, politicians whose goal is to get at retain power. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #14
they are being spied on. mopinko Oct 2014 #15
You don't need a tinfoil hat. The CIA has admitted to spying on Congress 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #20
true shit. mopinko Oct 2014 #24
I voted "Other" because I think it was the smashing of Socialists and Communists in the 40s and 50s KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #16
Thank you for weighing in. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #25
Yeah, the thought of McChinless at the Senate's helm for two years makes KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #28
When politicians,, ANY politicians are not held to the same NM_Birder Oct 2014 #17
Good one. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #26
The DLC. hifiguy Oct 2014 #22
They "sold" the party to the 1% alright 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #27
It's a mix of both 1 and 3. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #29
Yes, I wish I had provided more 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #30
I would agree that there is something to be said for #2. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #31
I'll look for it 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #33
I haven't made it yet :P I'll pm you a link when I do. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #36
Cool dat ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #39
Some aren't democrats. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #35
Exactly. former9thward Oct 2014 #37
Republicans.... sendero Oct 2014 #38
Because of fickle supporters. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #40
I voted #3; #1 necessarily follows that. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #43
I voted the first option, but TransitJohn Nov 2014 #44
In a nutshell SoCalDem Nov 2014 #45
#1 & 3. Can't choose. nt. nc4bo Nov 2014 #46
Other. Office holder behavior is multi-factorial, if you can label major axes HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #47
Big $$$ pays them off closeupready Nov 2014 #49
I don't believe Democrats are shrinking violets. merrily Nov 2014 #52
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