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yup. sick of seeing all the stupid reasons people are positing. HERVEPA Nov 2014 #1
Both parties ALREADY pander to old people. bravenak Nov 2014 #2
That's true re:party building for the future to an extent. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #4
RR's quote "Government is the problem" resonates even today. badtoworse Nov 2014 #115
^^This!^^ BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #67
My concern is the old democrats who vote like Republicans Scootaloo Nov 2014 #78
For real, though! bravenak Nov 2014 #81
Seriously, the mind boggles Scootaloo Nov 2014 #82
Sometimes it's like reading a novel from the Regency era. bravenak Nov 2014 #84
Mmmm, Matanuska thunderfuck Scootaloo Nov 2014 #85
I think that's what going to have to happen. bravenak Nov 2014 #87
Well like I said, the ones here are decent enough Scootaloo Nov 2014 #88
Definately. bravenak Nov 2014 #89
Socialist Alternative Party, FTW!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #114
It was the exact same in the 30s. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #113
You have to factor in voter supression. ucrdem Nov 2014 #3
Voter supression is an entirely different issue, and must be fought always and with the greatest still_one Nov 2014 #65
The Nation: "North Carolina Republicans Escalate Attack on Student Voting" ucrdem Nov 2014 #122
Rachel Maddow: "War on Student Voting Next Step for NC Republicans" ucrdem Nov 2014 #123
Fordham Urban Law Journal: "Disenfranchisement of the College Student Vote: ucrdem Nov 2014 #124
Minneapolis Post: "College students face new voting barriers" ucrdem Nov 2014 #125
Yes traditionally the young voters skip KMOD Nov 2014 #5
They did push for minimum wage and minimum wage increases did very well. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #7
exactly, also on DU there was not much talk about 2014 elections and much more focus on 2016 JI7 Nov 2014 #6
The young are just plain not interested in voting. Kaleva Nov 2014 #8
when i was young many friends and others my age had very little interest in politics JI7 Nov 2014 #10
They say otherwise in polls. I would think the self-described "reality-based community" Marr Nov 2014 #9
if they aren't voting they aren't voters JI7 Nov 2014 #11
I'm sorry, but that's just dumb. Marr Nov 2014 #13
i meet people all the time who don't vote, they just don't have interest, people lie in polls all JI7 Nov 2014 #14
But the reasons the young give for not voting could be used by Baby Boomers too. Kaleva Nov 2014 #12
because baby boomers are older now. the young ones will vote when they get older JI7 Nov 2014 #15
Our volunteer fire department is made up of mostly old guys. Kaleva Nov 2014 #20
"However, we still go to the polls and vote." Scootaloo Nov 2014 #79
Nope, most young people I know... bobclark86 Nov 2014 #16
Because they're the only generation who's ever had it tough. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #26
wrong grasswire Nov 2014 #56
Interesting Scootaloo Nov 2014 #80
I'm a baby boomer LeftInTX Nov 2014 #97
Yes, let's continue to blame the millenials for all of our woes. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #17
Nope, young people don't vote. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #24
I never said they did. (edit) F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #32
this is what i heard on the street too anchorite Nov 2014 #54
"Anyone trying to blame anyone else...is peddling bullshit." I submit that it is you ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #18
most don't even know there is an election or who is running or the name of their senator JI7 Nov 2014 #19
Was a federal minimum wage on the ballot? I did not know that. I knew it was up in ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #23
in alaska more voted for the republican candidate so this must mean they like what republicans offer JI7 Nov 2014 #36
I was at a NASCAR race at Texas last weekend. At the end there was fight between ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #42
the problem i see has more to do with many of them wanting Fame and caring too much JI7 Nov 2014 #47
Good point, JI7. :hi: ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #49
You inadvertently hit the bullseye. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #22
That's right, they have no motivation. Give them something they can get excited ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #25
What was our motivation? Us Baby Boomers. Kaleva Nov 2014 #27
I think those of us who vote do so because we're engaged. Not everyone is. Those ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #35
It's really hard to get people excited about somethin when they are not interested. Kaleva Nov 2014 #45
That's good news! Thanks for the link. I wish I had better answers. We do need, though, ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #48
Here's the thing that motivated me to vote and organize at age 18. This was the question on my Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #119
Reagan motivated me to vote noiretextatique Nov 2014 #75
Me too!!!! LeftInTX Nov 2014 #99
1958 noiretextatique Nov 2014 #126
They turned out far less than other age groups in 2008 and 2012. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #28
Exactly right. So, they need some new and cool. Exactly my point. ... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #31
so you think politicians should do more late night tv, snl appearances , talk about pop culture JI7 Nov 2014 #41
No necessarily, they (we) just need to find out what they see their issues are and then ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #46
they like Obama, Chris Christie, Ron/Rand Paul , JI7 Nov 2014 #50
Talk about being all over the place. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #55
Many love Rand Paul. bravenak Nov 2014 #57
the problem i have with rand paul is he is horrible on other issues and the people who support him JI7 Nov 2014 #62
The drug war gives police a ready made excuse to stop people. bravenak Nov 2014 #68
so that could be why cory booker is working with him on this JI7 Nov 2014 #69
It would be a good idea to get on board with it. bravenak Nov 2014 #70
but they had plenty of motivation during the presidential election KMOD Nov 2014 #34
I was the same way coming out of college. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #38
not all of them, i work in a town that gets a lot of college students and other young people JI7 Nov 2014 #44
I don't get it. I don't know about the rest of you but when I was young, I couldn't ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #52
The danger is they see it as an event, not a future habit. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #58
Too bad it's not mandatory and election day is not a national holiday. How... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #59
Start with local governments and larger employers. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #60
Part of that was the draft and Vietnam. People were vested. Now that the services are voluntary freshwest Nov 2014 #91
There's certainly has been a strong stench Cha Nov 2014 #21
"It's the Environment, Stupid." KMOD Nov 2014 #39
And so many Democrats campaigned on environmental regulations! Scootaloo Nov 2014 #83
“I recognize, unlike Sen. McConnell, the realities of global warming" N/T Chathamization Nov 2014 #101
Better than the Republicans is a hollow argument and that is the only one that can be made TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #118
Millenials are in suvival mode Harmony Blue Nov 2014 #29
That too Scootaloo Nov 2014 #90
All we Millies see is that the Establishment is waxing poetic... Odin2005 Nov 2014 #116
Poor kids. Here is what it said on my second 18 year old ballot: Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #120
Thanks for completely missing my point. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #121
Very informative PDF LeftInTX Nov 2014 #30
The drop off from 1992 to 1996 and 2000 is stunning. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #37
Being young is no excuse n/t Spazito Nov 2014 #33
A mandatory voting law would get them to vote bluestateguy Nov 2014 #40
Not this Millennial. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #43
millenials are older than 25 JVS Nov 2014 #51
According to Wikipedia they are between 14-34 LeftInTX Nov 2014 #61
i'm off by about a year JI7 Nov 2014 #63
According to just googling the term millenial: JVS Nov 2014 #72
But this is what wikipedia says LeftInTX Nov 2014 #94
I believe 25-44 would Generation X KMOD Nov 2014 #106
34 on down are millenials. bravenak Nov 2014 #111
Depending on who is counting, a Millennial is someone born either in the very late 70s or very early MillennialDem Nov 2014 #98
I'm sending this to the Greatest Page. Good discussion, geek. Thanks! nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #53
Actually Bill Maher had some interesting comments. Those who voted seemed to vote for progressive still_one Nov 2014 #64
They voted on policy when forced to vote on policy. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #66
'They won't vote because they're young' sounds like an excuse Union Scribe Nov 2014 #71
what a concept?! noiretextatique Nov 2014 #76
^^^^^++++++++^^^^^^^ marions ghost Nov 2014 #92
Did you see the PDF in the OP?? LeftInTX Nov 2014 #102
Good point marions ghost Nov 2014 #104
Hey you know what BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #73
++++ marions ghost Nov 2014 #93
So, some young voters didn't vote! And this is news all of a sudden?? Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #74
I also think voting by mail can contribute... C Moon Nov 2014 #77
A shit sandwich AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #86
Can we please define "Millennial"? LeftInTX Nov 2014 #95
Millennial - 80s - 2000s, Generation X early 60s - early 80s KMOD Nov 2014 #107
People born between 1982 and 9/11 Odin2005 Nov 2014 #117
and voting locations were deliberately moved off of college campuses in NC zazen Nov 2014 #96
Thank you marions ghost Nov 2014 #105
No the problem is Millennials are only pandered to in generals. Pander to Millennials in midterms MillennialDem Nov 2014 #100
Civics isn't really taught in school these days, plus, MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #103
Civics is nearly absent. Our young are ignorant of the basic fundamentals msanthrope Nov 2014 #108
The system is broken and you blame those that are getting screwed. Fix the system and they rhett o rick Nov 2014 #109
they are going to get screwed more by not voting treestar Nov 2014 #110
Bullshit. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #112
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