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In reply to the discussion: Screw the ACA [View all]

DonCoquixote

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Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:50 PM
Nov 2014

we want America to graduate from High School at least, if not college. We cannot stop, however, ACA was seventh grade. As much as we would love to skip seventh grade, it is prgressto wards the goal.

Key words, towards the GOAL, not a ogal in and of itself, as no one wants our kids to graudaate with a 7th grade education.

Screw the ACA [View all] mrmpa Nov 2014 OP
So what about the folks with pre-existing conditions that never had insurane prior to the ACA? Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #1
Doubtful tooeyeten Nov 2014 #61
It won't do most of them a damned bit of good. Daemonaquila Nov 2014 #155
The ACA was a bait and switch for those of us who wanted single payer Wella Nov 2014 #2
No, it was the largest expansion of the social safety net in decades. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #6
It can be both Scootaloo Nov 2014 #9
Most certainly not enough. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #12
So let's make it better Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #19
I'm sure you correspond with them frequently. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #169
Ya...we're pen pals Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #173
more like DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #176
No, it was not an expansion of the safety net: it was an expansion of the insurance market Wella Nov 2014 #10
That is a blatant lie on your part. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #16
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #59
Sometimes the jury gets it right...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #101
Sometimes the jury gets it wrong. L0oniX Nov 2014 #126
Not in this case Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #132
Juror 5 blatantly lied: For the record, I did not alert Wella Nov 2014 #172
Yup.... SidDithers Nov 2014 #179
Yes, Juror # 5 got it right.. I don't care how many times the poster goes around DU repeating it. Cha Nov 2014 #211
I agree with Juror #5.. If it's a Lie it needs to be Exposed.. thanks, geek and LostOne4Ever. Cha Nov 2014 #205
Yeah, the poster can't wrap their head around the fact that Millions are covered for Free and Cha Nov 2014 #212
Oh so sorry that it didn’t work out for you.. busterbrown Nov 2014 #39
How do you know he didn't vote, but being in a red state, the math just doesn't come out well for still_one Nov 2014 #72
Third Way viper Terry McAuliffe, governor of Blue State, Virginia, woo me with science Nov 2014 #90
Medicare and Medicaid are two seperate things, you seem to be confused Bandit Nov 2014 #93
Fixed it. Haven't had my coffee yet. woo me with science Nov 2014 #94
Did it ever occur to you it could be both???? HERVEPA Nov 2014 #136
Of course it was....stop pretending otherwise Sheepshank Nov 2014 #180
And it's the first part of the safety net to be gradual rather than all or nothing. treestar Nov 2014 #31
as long as you work for a company with less than 50 people. obxhead Nov 2014 #65
If you are paying the full premium if you can afford it treestar Nov 2014 #97
Why is it that you deem one person can afford it and another who isn't offered insurance TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #149
HUH? Whether one can afford it is determined by the numbers the federal government treestar Nov 2014 #218
The company I work for has shit insurance. obxhead Nov 2014 #193
the insurance company is involved either way treestar Nov 2014 #219
A system that forces citizens to purchase "insurance" from For Profit private vendors.... bvar22 Nov 2014 #194
Not really. Medicare is primarily administered by insurance companies. And Hoyt Nov 2014 #201
Bernie Sanders on Obamacare today.."Republicans Are Getting Very Nervous About Obamacare’s Success" Cha Nov 2014 #216
. Rex Nov 2014 #3
Scoot over!! bravenak Nov 2014 #36
So of course you bash the ACA instead of your own geek tragedy Nov 2014 #4
Yeah, yell at a guy who can't get insurance to protect your own political feelings Wella Nov 2014 #11
How scummy are you? Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #14
I didn't qualify for medicaid in 2014, not 2015.......... mrmpa Nov 2014 #20
$3600 annual or monthly premium? geek tragedy Nov 2014 #24
That's annual or $300 a month........ mrmpa Nov 2014 #27
Your numbers are off. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #38
I'm self employed and I put aside...... mrmpa Nov 2014 #42
A lot of self-employed get screwed under ACA progressoid Nov 2014 #116
That may be, but not those who already were paying for health insurance. MineralMan Nov 2014 #127
Not me. I'm self-employed and the ACA is great Lex Nov 2014 #200
It is affordable to millions of people. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #49
You don't seem to understand brush Nov 2014 #88
That person is also spreading the lie that geek tragedy Nov 2014 #21
I thought only rw gov in red states didn't like the ACA Medicaid option? Too much of Safety Net for Cha Nov 2014 #214
I find that interesting that many are ignoring the fact the it was the Supreme Court that said still_one Nov 2014 #77
Thank you for reminding them, still_one. Cha Nov 2014 #215
And, bash geek b/c he was asking the OP valid questions.. and it's geek who's "protecting your own Cha Nov 2014 #213
Much better than the liars who claim it didn't expand geek tragedy Nov 2014 #17
So you are calling mrmpa a liar. Nice. L0oniX Nov 2014 #124
well that's the pot calling the kettle black treestar Nov 2014 #32
It’s only about you.. Isn’t it? busterbrown Nov 2014 #43
Actually it is both the OPs state, and the Supreme Court which allowed the states not to expand still_one Nov 2014 #69
No. Screw those it is not helping. Thanks for letting us know how much you care about that. L0oniX Nov 2014 #123
Sounds like you should be angry at your state for denying you Medicaid under ACA. Hoyt Nov 2014 #5
"but my State didn't expand so I couldn't receive it and went uninsured" Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #7
WTF.......... mrmpa Nov 2014 #22
So you think all of those helped by the ACA are just geek tragedy Nov 2014 #25
So if it continues in the blue states and works out well treestar Nov 2014 #28
Assumptions, Assumptions....... mrmpa Nov 2014 #34
Then medicaid has been expanded, and if you make "too much" for it treestar Nov 2014 #41
Okay I am in a blue state.........also mrmpa Nov 2014 #45
maybe it's a budget problem treestar Nov 2014 #57
That doesn't sound right brush Nov 2014 #89
He say's he is self employed and pays a higher tax rate, there for B Calm Nov 2014 #105
That's what I mean, it doesn't sound right brush Nov 2014 #120
. . B Calm Nov 2014 #161
Something is up with him/her brush Nov 2014 #168
I am self employed in Tx., I get a huge subsidy on my ACA insurance. Sunlei Nov 2014 #146
Maybe your not making as much money. Isn't 35% tax rate in the top 1% B Calm Nov 2014 #151
poster mentioned 26k a year? I don't know what their self employment business is. Sunlei Nov 2014 #153
I think the poster is misinformed on the ACA. Also the poster needs to pay someone to B Calm Nov 2014 #154
I think you're right. A positive is if you pay someone to do taxes, that's a deduction too. Sunlei Nov 2014 #163
You are nothing new around here.. busterbrown Nov 2014 #44
Before this I was employed........... mrmpa Nov 2014 #46
Well thats because your employee paid for your healthcare.. busterbrown Nov 2014 #52
Well clearly you didn't do a good job of getting out the vote Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #35
oh no, it was that the candidates weren't inspiring enough! treestar Nov 2014 #40
easy for us to talk about it in California. Did you vote for Arnold? I didn't either, is that our still_one Nov 2014 #80
That is SUCH an unbelievably prickish statement. stillwaiting Nov 2014 #91
"That is SUCH an unbelievably prickish statement." Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #166
Then why in the holy hell are repubs trying to repeal it? displacedtexan Nov 2014 #121
Yeah, blame the states and the Supreme Court for a poorly written law. progressoid Nov 2014 #119
Maybe you should organize a letter writing campaign Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #145
medicare is insurance too bluestateguy Nov 2014 #8
That's the irony with the 'Medicare for All' crowd. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #15
I am for Medicare for all too! bluestateguy Nov 2014 #18
I don't think that is true Mojorabbit Nov 2014 #33
The reason for the co pay is to pay the yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #95
Supplemental plans are not the same as Medicare Advantage. bornskeptic Nov 2014 #115
My 84 year old Mother........ mrmpa Nov 2014 #37
And my mother has to buy a plan that will cost over $100 a month. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #48
No, you don't HockeyMom Nov 2014 #107
One can chose to buy the supplemental insurance plan. lol It's not "mandated" Autumn Nov 2014 #117
yet somehow comes in at 1/6th of the cost Doctor_J Nov 2014 #113
"It's not health care, it's insurance" LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #13
Till you find out that "anesthesia" is like "extra bacon". n/t simak Nov 2014 #99
Unless someone can take his or her $300 per month payment to a health care provider truebluegreen Nov 2014 #135
That's why HSA works well for some people without chronic illnesses Sheepshank Nov 2014 #187
And HSAs were available without the exchange, right? truebluegreen Nov 2014 #202
correct...HSA's are available both on or off the exchange Sheepshank Nov 2014 #203
Thank this woman nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #23
Make sure you keep leaving out Lieberman. jeff47 Nov 2014 #111
Well I did well with it treestar Nov 2014 #26
OK, but not before I take it out for a nice steak dinner. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #29
Sorry. Complain to your state. elleng Nov 2014 #30
I think we may have a republican troll. minivan2 Nov 2014 #47
Single payer is not health care, it's insurance Recursion Nov 2014 #50
Yeah. Single payer reforms the profit right out of health insurance. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #62
No, on its own it really doesn't Recursion Nov 2014 #64
If we examine the single payer systems around the world there is very little Enthusiast Nov 2014 #66
True. So you cut out 10% of the premium by restricting profit. Folks are still gonna Hoyt Nov 2014 #76
Really? Enthusiast Nov 2014 #78
Yep really. I bet docs and hospitals don't get paid as much there. I bet there is not Hoyt Nov 2014 #81
I bet you would be wrong. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #82
The ACA regulates the profit of health insurance industry... tridim Nov 2014 #106
I'm not saying anything about the ACA. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #195
Got it, thanks for the clarification. nt tridim Nov 2014 #197
It's one of those slogans people think are so clever. treestar Nov 2014 #220
Single payer is also insurance. bravenak Nov 2014 #51
Technically yes it is, but it is also so much more. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #87
The ACA was written for you to have Medicaid -- so screw the Rethugs in your state, not the ACA. pnwmom Nov 2014 #53
true, but it was also the supreme court which allowed his state not to expand medicaid if they still_one Nov 2014 #73
It's certainly not perfect... MoonchildCA Nov 2014 #54
Actually the $6000 could mrmpa Nov 2014 #58
I think the replies here illustrate a big problem LibDemAlways Nov 2014 #55
I'm wondering why no progressive legal beagles have raised an "Equal Protection" case KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #171
Ummm, I'm no expert here, but SheilaT Nov 2014 #56
If that is what you want, write your congrfessman every day. Forward your e-mail to the White JDPriestly Nov 2014 #60
That is good, but in all honesty with the make up of the Congress the way it is, that will not still_one Nov 2014 #75
What 'blue' state didn't expand Medicaid? ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #63
Wisconsin. Here is a link still_one Nov 2014 #79
On a presidential level, maybe, but more purple, on the state level. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #83
The Walker and the rest of the state legislator, is repsonsible for Sheepshank Nov 2014 #182
Did you read the question? He asked what blue state didn't expand medicaid still_one Nov 2014 #185
pretty clear that the question was intended to highlight Sheepshank Nov 2014 #188
The auto type screwed up my response, ugly was not intended still_one Nov 2014 #189
Florida. L0oniX Nov 2014 #129
Since when has Florida been 'blue'? ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #150
Blue enough to majority vote for Obama. L0oniX Nov 2014 #181
And to have a Teabagger governor and Republican legislature. n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #192
Let us know when you don't want our majority vote for a Dem POTUS. L0oniX Nov 2014 #208
Your point being what? ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #217
Oh it's a state purity thing with you huh? Good luck with that. L0oniX Nov 2014 #221
What point are you trying to make? ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #222
Blue enough for a majority to vote for Gore in 2000 too eom noiretextatique Nov 2014 #196
This is exactly what I went through last year . . . Brigid Nov 2014 #67
That is a problem, many people don't think, just attack. The problem with the OP is happening still_one Nov 2014 #71
If you can't afford it and are not subsidized, you have to go without, however, it is your state still_one Nov 2014 #68
Last I heard it was about half the states that didn't expand Medicaid. L0oniX Nov 2014 #138
The first blame actually goes to the supreme court, then the states still_one Nov 2014 #144
The blame game doesn't help. ACA is very flawed if it won't cover 50% of the people who need it. L0oniX Nov 2014 #183
No it won't solve it. But it is the reason why, and once again the fact that elections have still_one Nov 2014 #186
I get MediCal now Politicalboi Nov 2014 #70
Of course. I live in California also, but that doesn't solve his problem, and moving to another still_one Nov 2014 #74
How about blaming the state officials who chose not to participate? liberal N proud Nov 2014 #84
Medicare isn't quite free. What state are you in? If it's PA, maybe there's hope now with Wolf. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #85
ACA doesn't solve the real problem Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #86
Insurance companies are making a killing off it, though. egduj Nov 2014 #92
And just about everyone involved.. sendero Nov 2014 #100
God bless America!! WE'RE NUMBER 1 !!!!!!!! workinclasszero Nov 2014 #96
Our system is utterly ridiculous. alarimer Nov 2014 #98
Screw your republican governor - who didn't expand Medicaid jpak Nov 2014 #102
And your Third Way Democratic governor: woo me with science Nov 2014 #110
Ah yes blame the victim. He should have been smart enough to live in good states. L0oniX Nov 2014 #128
I want TriCare - if it is good enough for our Military, it is good enough for me. After all, we are Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #103
Screw you ... it'll save my niece's life. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #104
Love the screw you's. So very compassionate. Autumn Nov 2014 #118
Hard to feel compasion for some one pointing the finger of blame ... JoePhilly Nov 2014 #170
I'm not convinced that voicing frustration with a program that doesn't help a person who needs Autumn Nov 2014 #174
There are significant issues Bettie Nov 2014 #108
Have enough people let you know just how ungrateful you are? Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #109
Just wait until the pros show up. Rex Nov 2014 #130
I'm a little stunned that I can see as much of it as I can Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #131
Just make a thread about HRC not running for office. Rex Nov 2014 #133
It sucks but it part of the US political and fiscal picture now for pretty much ever Doctor_J Nov 2014 #112
Lots and lots of Third Way talking points, all lined up. woo me with science Nov 2014 #114
They are out in force on this one. It's almost sociopathic. L0oniX Nov 2014 #125
Typical MO. The corporate exploitation of the ACA woo me with science Nov 2014 #134
It's rather ironic that they care more about those who can use ACA than those that can't. L0oniX Nov 2014 #137
I am so sick of these vipers. Many with the same problem in Third Way-governed Virginia, woo me with science Nov 2014 #143
The math makes no sense, L0oniX. moriah Nov 2014 #165
over the week-end their target was some poor DUer who had a letter clearly showing her increase for DrDan Nov 2014 #190
A disabled widow at that Dragonfli Nov 2014 #204
It's obvious that some who call themselves democrats are really republicans. L0oniX Nov 2014 #223
This is my same situation with ACA. For me it's unusable. L0oniX Nov 2014 #122
Would you care to expand on your situation? moriah Nov 2014 #142
My home and cars are paid off. We don't qualify for ACA in Florida. L0oniX Nov 2014 #184
I know people have been getting ACA coverage in Florida. moriah Nov 2014 #191
Wife gets on Medicare next month $110 from her $810 SSDI. Of course a $4000 L0oniX Nov 2014 #209
For me, the copays saved me. moriah Nov 2014 #210
So you want to take away my coverage? Screw THAT. moriah Nov 2014 #139
Ya know, other Americans have different circumstances than yours. riqster Nov 2014 #140
? with your 3,600 premium?, heres the .gov link, I don't believe you. Sunlei Nov 2014 #141
And ya know, while I normally try to give those who are complaining about the ACA the benefit.... moriah Nov 2014 #147
Dear mrmpa ... I want to apologize for the rude manner in which you are treated here ... Trajan Nov 2014 #148
Either they clicked wrong buttons when they looked, or they're lying. moriah Nov 2014 #157
Thank you... mrmpa Nov 2014 #159
Please look at the Silver plans, and make sure you aren't checking that you're .... moriah Nov 2014 #167
$129 a month for a Silver plan is pretty damn cheap! B Calm Nov 2014 #206
Affordable Care Act ... Martin Eden Nov 2014 #152
The most brazenly Orwellian name yet for a Corporate woo me with science Nov 2014 #156
You want Medicare like your Mom? That's INSURANCE too, not health care frazzled Nov 2014 #158
I do understand medicare.......... mrmpa Nov 2014 #160
Did you check that you were a smoker, or that you were not going to file a tax return? moriah Nov 2014 #162
Oh I pay my taxes.............. mrmpa Nov 2014 #199
Wasn't suggesting you didn't pay, but some people don't have to file. moriah Nov 2014 #207
Medicare doesn't cover everything frazzled Nov 2014 #164
I have 42 years paid into medicare.............` mrmpa Nov 2014 #198
Don't you mean "Screw my state for not expanding Medicaid" and screw the SCOTUS for enabling your McCamy Taylor Nov 2014 #175
first, you are blaming ACA because your state did not expand? Sheepshank Nov 2014 #177
When I read your title I had a feeling PR flacks would come out to attack you. pa28 Nov 2014 #178
Good thing this is all about you Motown_Johnny Nov 2014 #224
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