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Liberal_Stalwart71

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30. I agree. Two things made this past election hurt more than it normally would...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 04:29 PM
Nov 2014

1. More RED states up for reelection where Democrats won by riding on Obama's coattails in 2008. They were probably expected to lose precisely because it was a midterm election and in a RED state.

2. Voter turnout lower than it has been in a very long time. I've heard that turnout was lower than it had been in over 70 years! That may have been due to a combination of apathy, anger, and voter suppression.

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However, I DID know that 22 Republican Senate seats are up for reelection in 2016 in traditionally BLUE states, and even if those BLUE states are really an off-BLUE, trending BLUE or deep PURPLE-BLUE, Republicans will still face a competitive race due to the changing demographics AND in a presidential year where turnout is typically much higher.

As much as I don't care for Hillary, if she is on the ticket, she will excite women and Latinos--maybe a good number of African Americans so long as she/her husband/their surrogates don't resort to race rhetoric and/or Obama bashing.

The GOP will use the next two years trying to get rid of the the electoral college, or djean111 Nov 2014 #1
I do think they will try but I do not think they will succeed Samantha Nov 2014 #4
They are actively trying to do it in Wisconsin and Michigan LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #11
Yes, I know Samantha Nov 2014 #37
Hard to do their dirty tricks in states they don't control. Tommy2Tone Nov 2014 #79
In Pennsylvania.... CANDO Nov 2014 #89
More voter supression.... Historic NY Nov 2014 #12
ACORN used to do things like that NewJeffCT Nov 2014 #18
I think the Post Office should be allowed to register people to vote Samantha Nov 2014 #41
Registration is a state function,city,village,school district,water district, not a federal function CK_John Nov 2014 #46
This is the ground game.... Historic NY Nov 2014 #62
In rural areas the post office is usually real close to the court house anyway. LiberalArkie Nov 2014 #97
There is no question in my mind that the Electoral College is the only thing saving Republicans Sheepshank Nov 2014 #42
The key is toddwv Nov 2014 #96
Please, I feel like it's 2007 again and people are saying Bush will declare himself Calista241 Nov 2014 #90
I would say the blue wall is more like 242 EVs bluestateguy Nov 2014 #2
He said he thinks we can count Virginia now as behind the Blue Wall Samantha Nov 2014 #5
RE GOP 2014 Victories liberal from boston Nov 2014 #10
The GOP has lost New Mexico for good LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #27
I believe I read in that article he moved New Hampshire behind the blue wall Samantha Nov 2014 #38
I found Ladd very clear and trying to change things by warning people. As for O'Donnell, I found him Mass Nov 2014 #3
Just remember it is not O'Donnell's analysis Samantha Nov 2014 #7
I agree. Two things made this past election hurt more than it normally would... Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #30
I would love to see a Sanders/Warren ticket Samantha Nov 2014 #39
Voter turnout over all was davidpdx Nov 2014 #86
Yep. Agreed! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #98
While we're remembering things... FBaggins Nov 2014 #84
The only chance the GOP has is electoral college gerrymandering. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #6
Can they redraw those districts before the next census? That is in 2020 Samantha Nov 2014 #8
Historically, redistricting only occurs after the census MohRokTah Nov 2014 #9
I thought the Supreme Court struck down the Texas gerrymandering law. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #33
I think they did redo it and the SC struck it down Samantha Nov 2014 #44
That was the Gerrymander they did in 2010. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #55
How would their chances improve dramatically if none of the states they do this in are blue states Samantha Nov 2014 #43
Moving it to one elector per House district, + two electors to the candidate with the most votes. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #50
I went back and re-listened to the video Samantha Nov 2014 #73
They don't have to do anything with the districts SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #16
But they will still have the same number, right Samantha Nov 2014 #45
Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Florida are definite 2016 blue states. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #51
He did not have Florida behind the Blue Wall -- at least not on Lawrence's map Samantha Nov 2014 #59
How are they definitively blue states... FBaggins Nov 2014 #85
GOP Control came about from midterm elections MohRokTah Nov 2014 #88
Is this a new definition of "solidly blue"? FBaggins Nov 2014 #93
The number of electoral votes would be the same SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #52
Gerrymandering only takes place every 10 years. They can't do anything until 2020. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #31
You really don't get the electoral college. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #53
They can change allocation of electoral votes at any time SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #54
All Based on the Assumption allinthegame Nov 2014 #13
I agree. You can't win a damn thing if voters don't vote ffr Nov 2014 #17
I would love to get rid of them(Rs)... freebrew Nov 2014 #28
Not to mention, the M$M NEVER bothered to correct the record on Benghazi or IRS Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #35
They also do not mention while these Keystone votes are being taken Samantha Nov 2014 #47
That's because the cowards in the Democratic Party ran away from a successful record AND Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #34
Yes, it did -- and with regard to MSNBC, it is the Comcast influence Samantha Nov 2014 #48
Corporate (conservative) Democrats davidpdx Nov 2014 #87
Damn I hope he is right! hueymahl Nov 2014 #14
So do I Samantha Nov 2014 #49
God, I so hope this comes to fruition! Hulk Nov 2014 #15
BUT, there would have to be enough Democrats willing to do what needs to be done. Maineman Nov 2014 #25
Hillary Clinton will have a lot of company if she runs Hari Seldon Nov 2014 #19
how dems can get supermajorities in both houses, and president- cut samson's hair certainot Nov 2014 #20
I read your post 3 times and I think you have some good ideas Samantha Nov 2014 #69
ah bullshit Cosmocat Nov 2014 #21
You have a huge dose of pessimism there Samantha Nov 2014 #56
A couple of things Cosmocat Nov 2014 #91
---Better still, it doesn't matter who the Democrats run, they win.--- LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #22
O'Donnell said each Republican potential candidate has faded Samantha Nov 2014 #76
Warren or Sanders? It is time. alfredo Nov 2014 #23
No...no..a thousand times, NO!!!! SpankMe Nov 2014 #24
I am not trying to do that -- Ladd (a Republican) just stated the obvious Samantha Nov 2014 #58
The Electoral College need this modification. rickford66 Nov 2014 #26
In theory I agree, but historically Republicans have shown a pattern of pinpointing where the Samantha Nov 2014 #57
The main reason for my idea is rickford66 Nov 2014 #78
GOP will do a ton of irreparable damage in two years so they can secure the Country so glinda Nov 2014 #29
They're already trying to split up the electoral votes in some states IronLionZion Nov 2014 #32
But here is the point - they can't do that in the true blue states Samantha Nov 2014 #60
R#41 & K for, sounds GREAT!1 & this is via Horrible Human(?) Laura INGRAHAM?!1 n/t UTUSN Nov 2014 #36
That may be true....and it does make sense, but..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #40
That is why we need a candidate voters salivate over (as we did with candidate Barack Obama) Samantha Nov 2014 #61
One possible strategy is to scream bloody murder about popular vote Generic Other Nov 2014 #63
I hope we could stop them from doing this but I am not sure we can Samantha Nov 2014 #64
Misses the point of the Republican victories. Orsino Nov 2014 #65
I do not assume President Obama will sign legislation with poison pills embedded Samantha Nov 2014 #70
I assume that the next farm bill will be highly toxic, for example. Orsino Nov 2014 #94
YEP Cosmocat Nov 2014 #92
Bush and Abbott did well in TX with hispanics. I think he is too optimistic about them voting Dem. freshwest Nov 2014 #66
Here it is: THE BLUE WALL MAP (screen shot from video) Samantha Nov 2014 #67
There are 10 Democratic Senate seats up in 2016, not one n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #68
I went back and re-listened to the video Samantha Nov 2014 #72
I see two that could be competetive: bornskeptic Nov 2014 #83
Is there anything Obama can do by executive order to ensure people have the right to vote? Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #71
I think the only thing he can do is refer problems to the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ Samantha Nov 2014 #75
Possible. But not certain. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #74
What can I say -- Rand Paul has changed with the times Samantha Nov 2014 #77
I would agree. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #80
He also knows they will show their ignorant asses and we will hate them all the more. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #81
Michigan GOP is trying to game the 2016 election. longship Nov 2014 #82
Republicans have 2 years to Gerrymander the presidential election LynneSin Nov 2014 #95
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