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stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
54. It has long disgusted me
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 10:53 AM
Apr 2012

The best example of this failure can be found if one compares and contrasts the diff between the dem and repub conventioon efforts in 2004. Dem highborows -- including BHO as the keynote speaker -- too the high road and left Bush pretty much unscathed, while the lowbrow repubs wagged their purple fingers when they weren't poking them in the eye of Kerry and the dem party.

I've long taken the "take no prisoners" approach to dealing with lying rightwingers and their minions in their service, and have recieved a lot of attempted grief from lefties that think being tolerant of their endless dishonesty is the best path, based on some notion that as far as I can tell, that their complete abandonment of the 9th commandment says nothing about their character or that of the efforts a lack of it indicate they are in pursuit of. Oh, and of course, the demands of tolerance trump the incivility of calling lying dumbasses, lying dumbasses.

Rightwingnuts lie so profusely because they know they can't win the debates honestly, and the reason why they can't win them honestly is because while DC politics may be center/right, it's a myth that we are a center/right nation.

This is why I've long been convinced BHO's victory is inevitable -- the growing widespread fear of rightwingnutttery that the Mutt's chronic and endless lying in defense of their policies, only contributes to.

I also see high potential for retaining the senate and retaking the house as a result as well.

Dealing with sociopaths is difficult... ananda Apr 2012 #1
Should we rig the elections too so we can steal them? lunatica Apr 2012 #2
If they do it---we need to do it.... trumad Apr 2012 #3
Then why bother to call ourselves a Democracy lunatica Apr 2012 #29
I know that I do not live in a 'Democracy.' roody Apr 2012 #37
I agree, Trumad... kentuck Apr 2012 #4
and one foot in a bucket. hobbit709 Apr 2012 #5
And they are bullies. kentuck Apr 2012 #6
The Republicans don't care how they win... trumad Apr 2012 #7
+1000. nt SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #9
The sad truth is they don't really care about this country... kentuck Apr 2012 #10
I do, too. H2O Man Apr 2012 #28
We have to recognize their tricks and deceptions siligut Apr 2012 #8
Well some here think we should not hit on the silly things... trumad Apr 2012 #11
In politics, do unto others as they would do to you. kentuck Apr 2012 #13
It all makes up the man siligut Apr 2012 #42
The Problem Is Mitt Will Not Be Running The Country..... global1 Apr 2012 #19
I think that President Obama Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2012 #12
It is tricky .... trumad Apr 2012 #14
NO quarter will be given to the parasite corporatist and his lie-filled campaign. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #15
This is a concerted strategy that will continue until the election. trumad Apr 2012 #18
What would that be called????? DMNinFL Apr 2012 #21
Agreed....reminds of a quote from the movie MIssissippi Burning... bowens43 Apr 2012 #16
I think massive apologizing is the way forward MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #17
If we lie like they do, we turn in to them. Take the battle of "truth" to them. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #20
We don't the higher ground... trumad Apr 2012 #23
If we stand up for the truth we don't need to lie pscot Apr 2012 #27
The fight is to maintain principles. If you give up those principles to fight, you've lost. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #47
Yeah, how's that working? Doctor_J Apr 2012 #71
So what do you advocate? nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #72
Water zipplewrath Apr 2012 #22
Yep, and fighting fire with fire is really hard to do when... GoCubsGo Apr 2012 #32
But Republicans are like a wildfire Occulus Apr 2012 #44
Jeb is our real threat. nt MrYikes Apr 2012 #24
We need to start kicking this meme: "Why isn't the press telling us every time Romney tells a lie?" FSogol Apr 2012 #25
Isn't that a version of blaming the messenger? KurtNYC Apr 2012 #33
More of "expecting more out of our 'liberal' media" than blaming FSogol Apr 2012 #45
there is no liberal media KurtNYC Apr 2012 #65
If the "messanger" is enabling the lies, then they need blaming. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #49
Agreed. However, it bothers me lots when I see lies or hyperbole posted to DU. DCKit Apr 2012 #26
A lie, once accepted as such, destroys credibility. ieoeja Apr 2012 #46
A-fucking-men! We need to use Cobra Kai tactics on the Republicans. backscatter712 Apr 2012 #30
In my experience many are rawly emotional and you can't even begin to discuss KurtNYC Apr 2012 #31
We NEED to play dirty in order to beat these SOBs. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #34
Hey! Javaman Apr 2012 #35
"Staying above the fray and ignoring them" worked out really well for John Kerry in 2004 bullwinkle428 Apr 2012 #36
Exactly.. butterfly77 Apr 2012 #38
Agree, and we may as well get ready for it now... Waiting For Everyman Apr 2012 #39
Machiavellian tactics don't work in the long run. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #40
Hear Hear, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #41
Did the free world respond to Hitler... JayhawkSD Apr 2012 #43
Did you Really Need to go to such an Extreme to prove the OP wrong fascisthunter Apr 2012 #48
The poster does seem to suggest that rigging elections etc. is OK when "we" do it nxylas Apr 2012 #53
Did the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor? trumad Apr 2012 #50
The answer to that is "Yes". Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #51
Hitler lost the battle, but he didn't loose the war... Larry Ogg Apr 2012 #56
I agree with OP, the stakes are too damned high! longship Apr 2012 #52
It has long disgusted me stupidicus Apr 2012 #54
Republicans have an entire network eager to spread their lies abelenkpe Apr 2012 #55
Don't forget CNBC - HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #58
Rowdy Roddy Piper hit the nail on the head hifiguy Apr 2012 #57
"Don't get me wrong, I'll throw ya a rope if yer drowning . . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #60
One of my favorite Piperisms hifiguy Apr 2012 #63
Maybe if we could start electing democrats that agree with you... Larry Ogg Apr 2012 #59
I don't want to stoop to their level Auggie Apr 2012 #61
Gandhi: GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #62
It's as if we're trying to be like Jesus. Gregorian Apr 2012 #64
We should fight with the truth... kentuck Apr 2012 #69
Hmmm I wonder what would happen Flying Squirrel Apr 2012 #66
You just suggested (D)s lie to win at corrupt politics, LOL just1voice Apr 2012 #67
Yeah---that will work. trumad Apr 2012 #68
A major reason the party is almost dead Doctor_J Apr 2012 #70
I agree! Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #73
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