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In reply to the discussion: Can people here have an adult conversation? [View all]Vattel
(9,289 posts)47. Hard truths like the one about torturers being real patriots
or the one about the danger of being sanctimonious if we are too critical of the torturers. We Americans and the victims of torture need to hear these hard truths.
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No...he's not effective. The people who were tortured deserve better OPs....not schtick that comes
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#40
And do these people deserve better speeches than Obama's speech about "real patriots"
Vattel
Dec 2014
#41
President Obama presented us with hard truths that quite a few Americans seem unwilling
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#46
Hard truths....like we'd all like to pretend that there wasn't a time in America when
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#52
He lauded no one...he just reminded those who like to pretend they were always
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#54
Well, Manny...did not Bush and our media portray them as such? Did not Bush's
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#59
You keep spinning Obama's words. Obama praised the torturers by calling them "real patriots."
Vattel
Dec 2014
#63
Obama praised no one...he just reminded us that not everyone was so pure in retrospect.
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#74
I defend no torturer. But damn...America bears the responsibility for torture, don't we? nt
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#111
You know....that's kind of like saying that only the Nazis killed Jews. Lots of good Germans, and
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#126
You get my point..which is why I'm happy tax dollars paid for Japanese internment
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#131
2004....elected. 2003....Iraq War. Do we all not owe something to the victims
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#115
nope, that was the watermelon debacle. still playing the martyr over that huge gaffe, eh?
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#64
Perhaps you could saunter over to the African American group and explain how "low" they all are
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#68
context: after many threads about POC offended @ fried chicken and watermelon issue- your response:
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#92
Very fucking seriously Manny. You KNOW you offended people and apologized, but the apology
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#100
there are three in this thread- here is the "apology" and it contains a link to the original...
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#120
satire doesn't use reverse racism to argue with POC that their feelings are wrong, LOL...
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#154
got three alerts so far- no hides. one imagines that I alerted for calling someone else stupid.....
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#171
hundreds of posts exist on DU calling attention to your racial gaffes, watermelon, Mike Brown.....
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#112
The discussion in the AA group over the racial offensiveness of some of your OPs.
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#83
stupid? like not aware that fried chicken and watermelon have been used to slur blacks stupid?
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#89
no comment on that amazing exchange- where you learn for the very first time in your life......
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#97
brilliant- they missed that I did supply links, and was subject to a direct personal attack.
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#114
You certainly didn't link to your characterization of what the post would contain.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#118
the thread made fun of AA's for not getting over fried chicken and watermelon jokes.
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#122
Yeah, the gefilte fish thread was full of people who it never occurred to that the OP was an
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#144
the "reverse racism" card been played once too often for it to be a mistake-
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#153
he called me a liar for referencing a thing he did and apologized for- how more full of shit can
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#158
Please explain his "Apology" in the context of his current denial. Thanks. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Dec 2014
#193
My comment has nothing to do with the OP, but why I don't participate in the jury system on DU.
still_one
Dec 2014
#159
yep, some people can get away with anything, yet those who challenge them get swarmed with
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#160
I understand your point. Things were much more fair when moderators made the
still_one
Dec 2014
#162
posted it twice, but I'd also love a link to your well received OP about Mike Brown-
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#129
what set me off is this "woe is me, falsely accused of racist posts bullshit.
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#145
I am literally DYING laughing. This mess is so transparent, so pitiful and so bizarre that it simply
Number23
Dec 2014
#147
yeah, the nasty insults and phony outcry - for links already posted- seems to have actually fooled
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#149
I didn't alert on it- but apparently there are minions who know I alerted on the direct insult to
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#170
I'm sorry...did you not post a thread about "gefilte fish" and then apologize for
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#99
Oh...I think those two threads are priceless, given the context of the watermelon/chicken thread.
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#102
you APOLOGIZED over it- not that it was credible, but you apologized, LOL....
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#127
It's already posted- with CONTEXT- that thing you find soooo very inconvenient.
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#95
I posted two links- canpost a dozen more to show you are completely aware how offended POC were....
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#98
You're referring to your post, a post you called racially insensitive, but not racist?
CreekDog
Dec 2014
#209
The Irish who died of famine probably also deserved better than Jonathan Swift's
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#106
Holy Crap...I needed that laugh! No....there's another Swift work that is more apropos....
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#109
I think I saw a Twain comparison here- and I had to stop myself before asking
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#123
It is news to me that any corporation can sue to overturn local or federal rules and
djean111
Dec 2014
#16
As to your first point....yeah. Go read the sick chicken case where 4 butchers took on FDR's
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#19
love your GIFs! I can't believe we are having the denial about mocking POC concerns again here..
bettyellen
Dec 2014
#110
UNCTAD rule like all rule is bad because we at least aspire to be self governing
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#70
It is astounding to me how so many people who fancy themselves as being politically savvy
YoungDemCA
Dec 2014
#72
I thank you. I find a firm grasp of civics tends to win arguments around here. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#75
You know....as misanthropic as I am, I have not been able to engage in sarcasm yet. I'm
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#17
I quoted Caddyshack to Third Way Manny, and got some posts hidden, so I don't want to participate in
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#11
Well...Third Way Manny tends to be pretty thin-skinned, for a fictional character.
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#205
the best we can do is some hand-me-down, fourth-rate buffoonery masquerading as pasquinade.
LanternWaste
Dec 2014
#18