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In reply to the discussion: I'm sorry Obama, those who sodomized Iraqi boys in front of their mothers, are NOT patriots [View all]Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Notice how I said "a lot of members", and didn't say ALL of the members.
That would be using a broad brush to make that kind of statement.
And, it is this quantification that has some up in arms over what President Obama said about "a lot" of the members of the CIA.
Of course, President Obama was not referring to the ones responsible for torturing other human beings.
But, people can be absolute assholes on the internet and claim that he did.
That's what the ignore function here at DU is for.
When absolute assholes say something so stupid, so illogical, so despicable about the President, it is very easy to just write them off as grandstanding, racist, pieces of white trash!!!!
Nevertheless, until Robert D. Novak outed Valerie Plame in August of 2003, she was an unknown officer of the CIA.
And if I remember correctly . . . and I think I do . . . she was once considered a hero at this forum.
Yet, I kind of doubt that anyone thinks badly of Plame just because some members of the CIA were responsible within that agency for the torture of other people -- the members of the CIA who were directly responsible for those horrible, despicable acts of barbaric depravity -- do not reflect on Plame's character, her humanity, or her integrity, simply because they were all in the same federal government agency at one time or another.
So yes, I do think that Valerie Plame was a patriot.
And she was an officer in the CIA.
The two are not mutually exclusive of each other in ALL instances.